Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/9-1/12 Break

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  • #461
I wonder if JSS already knows what her ruling is but didn't want the defendant to flip out in court- in her monkey suit- in front of the camera's... I mean witnesses?

I'd think she has to say the right sorts of words to act like she considering everything, but no way is she going to grant the motion. All this nonsense he's arguing is against the original conviction, not the DP, so he can try his luck getting the COA to let him blather a bunch of carp for hours on end. As much as I may think the judge has been a disaster, I'm absolutely confident she will deny this motion.
 
  • #462
They are too dumb to block or stay off social media? Lucky they are not on the jury then.

The whole shebang is contrived.

Everybody's a victim except Travis.
 
  • #463
I wonder if JSS already knows what her ruling is but didn't want the defendant to flip out in court- in her monkey suit- in front of the camera's... I mean witnesses?

It seemed that way to me when she told Nurmi that the computer stuff wasn't challenged during the trial and that 🤬🤬🤬🤬 didn't seem to be an issue at that time.

Now Juan's question makes sense to me when he asked JS when he was asked to testify. It makes the "changing horses" very apparent.

Juan made suggestions to appease the DT as the COA referred to and the DT backed down. I think the DT is sunk. JMO

PS: I think this was JSS's plan all along.
 
  • #464
If the death penalty is removed Nurmi and Co. will view it as a victory. But it would really be quite small a victory. In the big picture the defense team lost - she is convicted of murder. I don't really care if she gets the death penalty because either way she will be taken out of society and her life as she wishes it is over. If she gets the death penalty the circus continues for many, many more years. This is the problem with the death penalty, IMO.

Yeah, but it will be HER circus, in solitary.. The rest of us will have moved on. Hopefully, the Alexanders can, too.
 
  • #465
BBM

That sounds like creative thinking.

I'm sure that during illegally super secret testiphony JSKS said something to LKN like, "You may call your next witness." I believe that would clearly communicate/characterize the immediately forthcoming testiphony as "direct examination" of a witness.

It would not, therefore, be allocution.

Prior to allocution, JSKS stated, "Ladies and gentlemen, the defendant will now speak to you. This statement is not made under oath and is not subject to cross-examination. Miss Arias, you may proceed."

I doubt JSKS did that prior to super secret witness JA taking the stand during her super secret, interrupted testiphony.

I do not see how direct examination of a witness can be re-characterized as allocution when it was made under oath and made -- ostensibly -- subject to cross examination.

Yes, the jury would definitely have to be instructed carefully about the changed characterization of the testimony.

Wonder what Jodi said in secret that "hurts prosecution"? Hope to read that transcript soon.

From piecing together different tweets, I think JM was just saying that they could use videotaped interviews of these witnesses, even though that would hurt the prosecution (because he wouldn't be cross-examining them). I think he's OK with this because, e.g., if Ridiculous New Zealand Witness says "Deanna was abused," then JM can just call Deanna to say, "Whatever. I was in Costa Rica at the time and I don't know what that guy is talking about." And then he can say to the jury, "You heard from several people who didn't want any questions asked about their testimony--by me or by you. But let's see what questions we can come up with that might cast doubt on their testimony..."
 
  • #466
Dave Erickson ‏@ericksonvision 4m4 minutes ago

Welcome to the Nurmi School of Law & "How To Murder & Avoid the Death Penalty.' Step 1: Make sure victim looked at 🤬🤬🤬🤬. Step 2: see Step 1

:happydance:
 
  • #467
I wonder if JSS already knows what her ruling is but didn't want the defendant to flip out in court- in her monkey suit- in front of the camera's... I mean witnesses?

I think JSS dropped clues as to her thinking. Denial on Monday. The COA has already indicated her refusal to testify in open court is NOT a denial of her right to testify. JSS knows the 14 witnesses are a gargantuan reach, and JM offered her that COA- suggested lesser means on a silver platter (audio testimony, affidavits) to obtain their testimony. And Nurmi, no matter how reluctant he is to let go of it, is just plain wrong that the State is guilty of a Brady violation (DT knew of HD, etc.), or of destroying evidence.

The only unconnected dot for me is why M testified there wasn't 🤬🤬🤬🤬, but that is an appeals issue at best.
 
  • #468
Sure hope game over = no more games. And end of the defense show.

Only honest thing Nurmi said....yes, it's been one big Game for Jodi and friends....and it's over. imo
 
  • #469
Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 15s16 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Judge- Juan asked Lonnie if he found 🤬🤬🤬🤬 and he said he did but wasn't asked to look further by defense. #jodiarias #3tvarias


William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 14s15 seconds ago
Nurmi talking about conviction based on false testimony. That's not an argument for JSS, that's for the appeals court.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 19s19 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Judge says she listened to Lonnie's testimony and now defense has shifted to the 🤬🤬🤬🤬 being an issue #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 29s30 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
We were forced to take this witness out of order & he was scrambling to get this done Smith was just getting basic info for 2 hours

great observation Judge!!!
 
  • #470
JodiBanArias @AriasOnDeathRow · 17m 17 minutes ago
To Nurmi with our love #jodiarias

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  • #471
Lawrence stated these witnesses would be addressing mitigating factor #9- the psychological state of the defendant... he also stated they would be talking about the defendant, and what she was like, before meeting Travis. Why would any of them be afraid to tell that in open court?


Would one of them be Matt McCartney?


Friday 10/26/07

I haven't written all week what I'm grateful for. I haven't been very grateful at all apparently since a few days ago I was pondering ending my life again.

I spoke w/Matt McCartney for the first time in 3 months. He's thoroughly convinced I should commit myself. I don't think I need to do anything that drastic. I don't need to be on a suicide watch.



If Matt is so concerned about her then why isn't he here now when she'd need it the most? JJS tell Nurmi if he has balky witnesses to subpoena them or sit down and shut up.
 
  • #472
I wonder if JSS already knows what her ruling is but didn't want the defendant to flip out in court- in her monkey suit- in front of the camera's... I mean witnesses?

Yeah, that's my guess! LOL.
When I won in Small Claims Court- it was an open & shut case against my former roommate- the judge did the same thing and took it "under advisement". I was up against a lawyer too, her brother. It was worth the wait!!!
 
  • #473
They are too dumb to block or stay off social media? Lucky they are not on the jury then.

The whole shebang is contrived.

BBM LOL! What an excellent point!!!
 
  • #474
I think JSS dropped clues as to her thinking. Denial on Monday. The COA has already indicated her refusal to testify in open court is NOT a denial of her right to testify. JSS knows the 14 witnesses are a gargantuan reach, and JM offered her that COA- suggested lesser means on a silver platter (audio testimony, affidavits) to obtain their testimony. And Nurmi, no matter how reluctant he is to let go of it, is just plain wrong that the State is guilty of a Brady violation (DT knew of HD, etc.), or of destroying evidence.

The only unconnected dot for me is why M testified there wasn't 🤬🤬🤬🤬, but that is an appeals issue at best.

I think even John-Sue Smithdonym said there was no 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on the computer (in the sense of images or videos)--only one visit to a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 site on the Internet history and a bunch of really really super-fast word searches faster than really any human could manage butmaybeaviruscould.
 
  • #475
Did anyone hear JS referred to as det.smith?
 
  • #476
IIRC, when the witnesses were questioned about 🤬🤬🤬🤬, I thought Juan clarified it by saying did you find any pics of nudity from the waist up? Am I wrong about that?

It stands out to me because I thought it was a little strange.
 
  • #477
I think even John-Sue Smithdonym said there was no 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on the computer (in the sense of images or videos)--only one visit to a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 site on the Internet history and a bunch of really really super-fast word searches faster than really any human could manage butmaybeaviruscould.

Lol. Smh. I read that and I keep thinking back to that headline months ago "Possible child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 found!! We repeat possible child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 found. Did those in the back hear!? Posssible child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 found!"

Smdh.
 
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From AZ Central:

Tom Tingle@TomTingle2

#JodiArias looks around during Fri. hearing in her sentencing phase retrial. #Nurmi argued death should not be option pic.twitter.com/wEIrUwlsku

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