Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #1

[Hope4More]

To be emotionally affected by solitary confinement JA would have to have a soul. She has none. There is nothing there but an intelligent being with no spirit. She never reacts normally. Ever. JMO

I can't speak to whether or not she has a soul. IMO she is a sociopath, whether clinically diagnosed as that of not. But....she has repeatedly demonstrated that she is extremely capable of feeling at least one emotion- hatred.

I think she actively and fiercely hates Travis to this day, and that solitary has only increased that hatred. I also think that even before solitary her hatred for Travis caused her to choose a trial strategy that made little sense other than it provided her with the opportunity to try to destroy Travis' reputation and to cause his family additional pain.

And IMO, her solitary confinement has allowed her to sink deeper into her delusions of victimhood, unchallenged by any reality of what doubling down on that strategy might cost her.

 

[MeeBee]

I can't speak to whether or not she has a soul. IMO she is a sociopath, whether clinically diagnosed as that of not. But....she has repeatedly demonstrated that she is extremely capable of feeling at least one emotion- hatred.

I think she actively and fiercely hates Travis to this day, and that solitary has only increased that hatred. I also think that even before solitary her hatred for Travis caused her to choose a trial strategy that made little sense other than it provided her with the opportunity to try to destroy Travis' reputation and to cause his family additional pain.

And IMO, her solitary confinement has allowed her to sink deeper into her delusions of victimhood, unchallenged by any reality of what doubling down on that strategy might cost her.

:yes:

Very well said.

 

[krkrjx]

Whatever else she is or isn't , CMJA is a human being no more or less vulnerable to solitary confinement than anyone else.

Fact is she's been isolated 23/24 for over a year, with very little access to anything or anyone based in reality. For someone whose natural habitat is other than reality anyway, that's a very long time.

Everything I've read about solitary confinement says that it causes paranoia, obsessive thoughts and thinking disorders. None of those disturbances bodes well for her being able to represent herself well.

I agree that even with a sounder mind she might well have buried herself in irrelevant asides and petty grievances. With over a year of solitary weighing her down, I think the potential for her to look and sound whacked is very real.

In the abstract, I kinda doubt the wisdom of allowing convicts locked up long in solitary to represent themselves.

She has a RIGHT to be represented by an attorney but such representation is not a requirement. I agree that it is definitely not a good thing for her to represent herself. But she has to be allowed to if she wants; it's another of her Constitutional rights. If a person is deemed competent to stand trial they are assumed to be competent to participate in their own defense even to the point of running the show. However, they almost always have "a fool for a client."

 

[Hope4More]

She has a RIGHT to be represented by an attorney but such representation is not a requirement. I agree that it is definitely not a good thing for her to represent herself. But she has to be allowed to if she wants; it's another of her Constitutional rights. If a person is deemed competent to stand trial they are assumed to be competent to participate in their own defense even to the point of running the show. However, they almost always have "a fool for a client."

I know that it's her constitutional right to represent herself. If I focus only on her and what punishment I think she deserves in our legal system as it is exists, then I'm really OK with her going it alone. The more I've thought about it ,the more convinced I am that she will represent herself smack into the DP.

Looking at the bigger picture, though.....Limits to self representation already exist. For example, some states don't allow convicts to represent themselves during the appeals process. If solitary confinement radically changes a convict's ability to reason and think clearly, then I'm not sure it's justifiable to allow them to represent themselves when the stakes are life or death.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I haven't been here in so long. Juan filed for sanctions against Jodi.

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/index.asp

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 13m
Prosecutor Juan Martinez asks for sanctions against attorney/defendant #JodiArias. Claims Arias not turning over contact info of witnesses.

https://twitter.com/troyhaydenfox10/status/505511824163229696

lol

 

[Dr. Know?]

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 5m
Link to motion for sanctions filed by Juan Martinez against attorney/defendant #JodiArias. Wants witness contact info
http://content.foxtvmedia.com/ksaz/pdfs/56925030.pdf …

 

[MeeBee]

I haven't been here in so long. Juan filed for sanctions against Jodi.

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/index.asp

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 13m
Prosecutor Juan Martinez asks for sanctions against attorney/defendant #JodiArias. Claims Arias not turning over contact info of witnesses.

https://twitter.com/troyhaydenfox10/status/505511824163229696

lol

Literally JUST saw this. So what is going on here? The defense does not want to provide the state with witness contact info? Isn't it necessary for him to have some way to contact them so he can interview them? Even just a phone number?

Ms. Arias is playing a dangerous game...she can't just do whatever she wants.

 

[LinTX]

JSS has already instructed her to do that, the minute entry mentioned it. Guess contempt of court doesn't really cost her anything though, since she's already in jail?

 

[MeeBee]

JSS has already instructed her to do that, the minute entry mentioned it. Guess contempt of court doesn't really cost her anything though, since she's already in jail?

Yeah, that's what I don't understand. The judge told them to, Juan goes to Wilmott for the info, she says take it up with Jodi in court. So what, judge tells them again, he goes to Wilmott, Wilmott refuses and around and around we go? Doesn't this little game look very bad for the defense on paper?

Hoping we'll hear from AZLawyer on the matter too.

 

[Tuba]

Of course, you're absolutely right, MeeBee. But we knew (& posted) that she didn't want her P.I. and her expert interviewed or examined by Juan Martinez. Remember when we shared our impressions on the Aug. 22 hearing? She is counting on stealth & surprise. Little does she know the rules of discovery are in place to foil such intentions. So now she is simply defying the court? Her stratagems are going sideways fast and taking her with them.

 

[LambChop]

The judge can always give her attorneys back their control. Didn't JSS warn JA when she told JA she could represent herself?

 

[Nore]

MeeBee you are so right! she thinks she will get up there and do whatever she feels like doing.
This certainly proves she is a spoiled brat along with being psychotic. This is going to be a riot of a trial.
She proves how little she actually knows by not producing her witnesses to Juan. I have no legal back-
ground but I can figure that out, so can you I'm sure. She cant just walk into court and spring "witnesses"
on everyone. I'm buying two big bags of Puffin' corn (cant eat yummy pop corn) a few Gatorades, sit back and enjoy the show. She is :crazy: as a loon.:laughcry:

 

[MeeBee]

Of course, you're absolutely right, MeeBee. But we knew (& posted) that she didn't want her P.I. and her expert interviewed or examined by Juan Martinez. Remember when we shared our impressions on the Aug. 22 hearing? She is counting on stealth & surprise. Little does she know the rules of discovery are in place to foil such intentions. So now she is simply defying the court? Her stratagems are going sideways fast and taking her with them.

I kind of caught the tail end of that. Looks like y'all were right, that's exactly what she is trying to do, seems like. She wants to get out of having to follow the same rules every other attorney has to follow. She thinks by saying, "they don't want their addresses known," she can get out of having to make them available for interview for Juan by implying they're too scared to speak to him.

It doesn't work like that honey child. You cannot call them if the state can't talk to them. She is hoping to catch him off guard so he won't have a chance to dispute what she wants to say. I think she is going to be very angry when she realizes she can't sociopath her way out of this one.

 

[MeeBee]

The judge can always give her attorneys back their control. Didn't JSS warn JA when she told JA she could represent herself?

So if Jodi doesn't want to play by the rules can the judge give control back to her attorneys? What kind of recourse is there if a defendant wants to represent themselves but makes things very difficult? And why didn't Wilmott just give him the darn information? Jodi may not be a lawyer but Wilmott is and she should know better. What a headache. She's her advisory council. Shouldn't she be advising her that she has to let the state interview any witnesses and to just cooperate...

Oh, wait, delay delay delay. I get it now.

 

[I Object!]

So JM is asking for compliance or exclusion in his motion for sanctions. Truly, his remedies are limited. While JA is acting as her own attorney, she is not an officer of the court, so the usual sanctions aren't really available to him. And clearly, she doesn't understand professional courtesy ! hahahaha

 

[LinTX]

But it's not professional courtesy when the judge orders you to comply. If she can't comport herself according to court rules, I suspect JSS knows two attorneys familiar with the case who can.

 

[geevee]

JM is supposed to be interviewing her witnesses on the 2nd and 3rd, I suppose she thinks if he can't get ahold of them she'll gain more time. How foolish of her to think JSS is going to allow this kind of game, I'm more suprised though at Willmott's attitude, I realize she is now only advisory counsel but she is an officer of the court, isn't she risking some kind of penalty? I believe they all will be in court on the 4th and JM should have his interviews done by then, going to be an interesting hearing if he hasn't been able to.

 

[krkrjx]

JM is supposed to be interviewing her witnesses on the 2nd and 3rd, I suppose she thinks if he can't get ahold of them she'll gain more time. How foolish of her to think JSS is going to allow this kind of game, I'm more suprised though at Willmott's attitude, I realize she is now only advisory counsel but she is an officer of the court, isn't she risking some kind of penalty? I believe they all will be in court on the 4th and JM should have his interviews done by then, going to be an interesting hearing if he hasn't been able to.

I can see it now: JM will not get to interview her witnesses as planned this coming week and he will have no way to contact them before the next court appearance (Sept. 4th?). And her one witness who is so important that her schedule is booked for weeks in advance will not be available to reschedule the missed interview until end of the month at best. True or not, they will play it that way for the purposes of another delay being necessary. It may be JM that has to request this one but it's JA that is causing it. I hope JSS gets a handle on this nonsense right from the start. If she doesn't this entire proceeding is going to be rife with shenanigans.

 

[rose222]

I am completely sick of this trial. Do you let an insane person run the asylum? That is exactly what is happening here. I am done. Next time I post here will be when the jury is deliberating. :escape:

 

[Love Never Fails]

Literally JUST saw this. So what is going on here? The defense does not want to provide the state with witness contact info? Isn't it necessary for him to have some way to contact them so he can interview them? Even just a phone number?

Ms. Arias is playing a dangerous game...she can't just do whatever she wants.

But she thinks she can, and until she gets slapped down by the judge she will keep it up. I would love for the judge to tell her the witnesses can't testify. But JSS won't do that. Maybe JA doesnt have witnesses or maybe just one. JW probably couldn't turn the witness list over to JM because JA told her not to, since JA is lead counsel now. Lol. In any case, I wish the judge would stop the nonsense.