Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #1

[Love Never Fails]

I am completely sick of this trial. Do you let an insane person run the asylum? That is exactly what is happening here. I am done. Next time I post here will be when the jury is deliberating. :escape:

But Rose, it's going to be so much fun to watch...if cameras are allowed back in...and to rant about. Seeing the insane run the asylum. Yes it will be crazy. But no way around it. She is going down, either life or death. And the jury may just get her number early on, all twelve of them.

 

[geevee]

I can see it now: JM will not get to interview her witnesses as planned this coming week and he will have no way to contact them before the next court appearance (Sept. 4th?). And her one witness who is so important that her schedule is booked for weeks in advance will not be available to reschedule the missed interview until end of the month at best. True or not, they will play it that way for the purposes of another delay being necessary. It may be JM that has to request this one but it's JA that is causing it. I hope JSS gets a handle on this nonsense right from the start. If she doesn't this entire proceeding is going to be rife with shenanigans.

JA is clearly trying to set the tone, isn't she? But JM isn't wasting a moment, the Hulsey trial wrapped up the afternoon of the 28th and he filed this motion on the 29th, apparently after it became clear there would be no cooperation from the defense. September 4th may resemble July 4th in the courtroom, fireworks will not be unexpected.

 

[Hope4More]

I think JM is just messing with her head. Stephens ruled that CMJA didn't have to turn over witness addresses, and that's all he's demanding. If JM didn't have their phone numbers he would be demanding those as well.

Ask yourself.....why is JM demanding the addresses now? He didn't insist upon having them during the hearing when these arrangements were discussed, even though AZ law clearly says he's entitled to them.

He cites that very law in his motion, a law for 100% sure he was entirely aware of during the hearing. Why didn't he invoke the law then?

Head games. A demonstration that she doesn't and won't have any control over what happens because she doesn't know the law.

 

[janx]

The court ordered the interviewing to happen on Sept. 2 at 9:00 a.m.. Juan still doesn't have contact info. for these witnesses?

 

[Hope4More]

The court ordered the interviewing to happen on Sept. 2 at 9:00 a.m.. Juan still doesn't have contact info. for these witnesses?

I'm willing to bet that he does have phone numbers (see my post above). If that's wrong and CMJA has already made a mockery of the process by spitting in JM's face, my other bet is that she's cooked.

Stephens has absolute discretion to impose council on her if cmja demonstrates she can't act in her own best interest.

Contempt of court and disrespecting the judge who will decide her fate if the second jury hangs on penalty? What more needs to be demonstrated?

 

[krkrjx]

I think JM is just messing with her head. Stephens ruled that CMJA didn't have to turn over witness addresses, and that's all he's demanding. If JM didn't have their phone numbers he would be demanding those as well.

Ask yourself.....why is JM demanding the addresses now? He didn't insist upon having them during the hearing when these arrangements were discussed, even though AZ law clearly says he's entitled to them.

He cites that very law in his motion, a law for 100% sure he was entirely aware of during the hearing. Why didn't he invoke the law then?

Head games. A demonstration that she doesn't and won't have any control over what happens because she doesn't know the law.

While I will accept that anyone is able and at times even willing to play head games, I do not see JM doing that in this instance.

JM is demanding the addresses because he was ensured the witnesses would be available to him even if addresses were not handed over. He agreed he did not need the addresses if he had some other means of contact. But it appears as though the witnesses have in fact not been made available for him to interview as promised. JM filed the motion for addresses because he is entitled to contact, was promised that, but did not get it.

JMO.

 

[janx]

I'm willing to bet that he does have phone numbers (see my post above). If that's wrong and CMJA has already made a mockery of the process by spitting in JM's face, my other bet is that she's cooked.

Stephens has absolute discretion to impose council on her if cmja demonstrates she can't act in her own best interest.

Contempt of court and disrespecting the judge who will decide her fate if the second jury hangs on penalty? What more needs to be demonstrated?

According to his motion, he doesn't: http://content.foxtvmedia.com/ksaz/pdfs/56925030.pdf

And he's supposed to do the interviews three days from now.

 

[geevee]

According to his motion, he doesn't: http://content.foxtvmedia.com/ksaz/pdfs/56925030.pdf

And he's supposed to do the interviews three days from now.

Yes, he's saying he doesn't have any contact info:

 

[Hope4More]

Yes, I've read and reread his motion. I'm not convinced that JM doesn't have phone numbers. Especially given how little time he has to contact witnesses , it makes no sense for him to be asking now for their addresses only and not phone numbers as well.

I hope that I'm wrong and that CMJA is plain and simply out of control and in contempt of court.

I'm tempted to add that it would be extremely satisfying to see her robbed of whatever sicko plans she's had, and to have Nurmi crammed down her throat again. But, that would be unkind to say.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Yes, I've read and reread his motion. I'm not convinced that JM doesn't have phone numbers. Especially given how little time he has to contact witnesses , it makes no sense for him to be asking now for their addresses only and not phone numbers as well.

I hope that I'm wrong and that CMJA is plain and simply out of control and in contempt of court.

I'm tempted to add that it would be extremely satisfying to see her robbed of whatever sicko plans she's had, and to have Nurmi crammed down her throat again. But, that would be unkind to say.

Hi all,
i am thinking JM had only phone numbers and contacts would not return his calls or comply. So he has to subpoena them and needs their addresses and miss priss won't comply either.

BTW, I would like to see Attorney JW be sanctioned by court.

 

[Hope4More]

Hi all,
i am thinking JM had only phone numbers and contacts would not return his calls or comply. So he has to subpoena them and needs their addresses and miss priss won't comply either.

BTW, I would like to see Attorney JW be sanctioned by court.

Aaaaah. Good reasoning about lack of compliance by witnesses and the addresses needed for subpoenas!! . That makes perfect sense all the way 'round.

 

[LambChop]

Witness do not have to show up because JM calls them and ask them to come to court. Legally they would need to subpoena them. That is normal procedure.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I can't speak to whether or not she has a soul. IMO she is a sociopath, whether clinically diagnosed as that of not. But....she has repeatedly demonstrated that she is extremely capable of feeling at least one emotion- hatred.

I think she actively and fiercely hates Travis to this day, and that solitary has only increased that hatred. I also think that even before solitary her hatred for Travis caused her to choose a trial strategy that made little sense other than it provided her with the opportunity to try to destroy Travis' reputation and to cause his family additional pain.

And IMO, her solitary confinement has allowed her to sink deeper into her delusions of victimhood, unchallenged by any reality of what doubling down on that strategy might cost her.

I don't think she feels hatred. I think she feels nothing for anyone. I think Travis was murdered not because she hated him, But because she could not stand to have him living a good life outside of her. I don't think she has any real emotions. When you hate someone, you explode on them. You don't have sex with them and feign a photo shoot and kill them with all manners of violence and then go away and act like nothing happened moving on to another man and playing footsie with him.
That is not hatred. That is indifference and a means to an end imo.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Witness do not have to show up because JM calls them and ask them to come to court. Legally they would need to subpoena them. That is normal procedure.

Well since that is the case I am really surprised that the judge only ordered JA to give up phone numbers. IIRC JM asked for both and judge ordered phone numbers for contact. I figure JM is only following up with the needed addresses or MAYBE he needs to verify that the witness even exits at all!

 

[Hope4More]

I don't think she feels hatred. I think she feels nothing for anyone. I think Travis was murdered not because she hated him, But because she could not stand to have him living a good life outside of her. I don't think she has any real emotions. When you hate someone, you explode on them. You don't have sex with them and feign a photo shoot and kill them with all manners of violence and then go away and act like nothing happened moving on to another man and playing footsie with him.
That is not hatred. That is indifference and a means to an end imo.

We just see things differently. I think she feels lots of hatred...including towards Deanna..check out her face while Deanna is on the stand.

IMO her hatred very much was on display the day of the murder. I think she had sex with him that day out of hatred, and that she likely taunted him as she stabbed him that he was dying
"impure, " that he would never be absolved. She meant and still means to take EVERYTHING from him. That's not indifference.

 

[Hope4More]

Witness do not have to show up because JM calls them and ask them to come to court. Legally they would need to subpoena them. That is normal procedure.

No, you're right, they don't. But normal procedure doesn't seem to apply here. JSS denied JM access to their addresses , so he couldn't possibly have been in a position to subpoena them directly.

It sounds like JSS and JM agreed to have exchanges about interview arrangements between JM and the witnesses "mediated" by Wilmott and Nurmi.

Which, if so , makes Wilmott's refusal baffling and completely unethical. Seems to me like we're missing some info here.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

We just see things differently. I think she feels lots of hatred...including towards Deanna..check out her face while Deanna is on the stand.

IMO her hatred very much was on display the day of the murder. I think she had sex with him that day out of hatred, and that she likely taunted him as she stabbed him that he was dying
"impure, " that he would never be absolved. She meant and still means to take EVERYTHING from him. That's not indifference.

I don't see hatred. I don't think she hates anyone but herself. I think she acts because people upset her about her. I think that her reaction to Travis was because she knew she was not good enough for him. Not to be a spouse, Just a fling and that made her feel bad about her.
I don't see hate. I see disposal. Hate and love are close emotions.. both involve passion. The way she handled this was not with passion but with precision if you ask me, Cold and ugly.

 

[Frigga]

I don't see hatred. I don't think she hates anyone but herself. I think she acts because people upset her about her. I think that her reaction to Travis was because she knew she was not good enough for him. Not to be a spouse, Just a fling and that made her feel bad about her.
I don't see hate. I see disposal. Hate and love are close emotions.. both involve passion. The way she handled this was not with passion but with precision if you ask me, Cold and ugly.

I couldn't disagree with this more.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Just my opinion and nothing more but....JA is hateful and that means full of hate right? But whether she hates or not, she killed Travis with pure passion...and precision.

 

[Love Never Fails]

No, you're right, they don't. But normal procedure doesn't seem to apply here. JSS denied JM access to their addresses , so he couldn't possibly have been in a position to subpoena them directly.

It sounds like JSS and JM agreed to have exchanges about interview arrangements between JM and the witnesses "mediated" by Wilmott and Nurmi.

Which, if so , makes Wilmott's refusal baffling and completely unethical. Seems to me like we're missing some info here.

This whole trial makes you scratch your head and go....huh?!