Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/14/14

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  • #641
To me her hair looked black in the photo and not brown brunette.

I think her natural color is black, but it's possible the dye was very dark brown. I have naturally very dark brown hair, and when I go darker to cover up the gray, DD tells me it looks almost black.
 
  • #642
Just started reading this thread - but I agree re bold - I believe it was Maria de la Rosa...

and again... :gthanks: AZlawyer for your explanations to us lay people!! :wave:

okay... back to reading...

WOW Maria was not someone that had previously crossed my mind. This is an interesting guess. Why do you think she was the witness?
 
  • #643
I think some might have trouble believing Travis could have sex with someone he didn't very much like. But men (and women) are sometimes led by what's in between their legs.
 
  • #644
I suppose it is possible something like that was her motive for the photos as they could have been taken while she was still in the Plan B stage of trying to convince TA to let her go with him to Cancun. Then after she realized that was not going to happen and she decided to go through with the murder, she didn't want the photos on the camera anymore because she didn't want anyone to know she had been at his house that day.

IMO the photos were another way to put him at ease. *hey, let's break in that new camera*. They had talked at length about taking photos such as these on the sex tape. Juan actually sealed two more of the sex pics. Not sure I even want to know what those were of if they are even more graphic than the two close ups of her lady parts and butt :doh:
 
  • #645
IMO the photos were another way to put him at ease. *hey, let's break in that new camera*. They had talked at length about taking photos such as these on the sex tape. Juan actually sealed two more of the sex pics. Not sure I even want to know what those were of if they are even more graphic than the two close ups of her lady parts and butt :doh:

I didn't know that! Could be a close up of penetration. It would explain det. Flores' determined "I know you had sex.".
 
  • #646
Re: the so-called sex photos of the day of the murder- I seem to recall someone (JM?) mentioning that there are other photos from that day that they didn't show in court - I took it to mean they may have had a more explicit photo of them in the act or something that confirmed for all involved (who saw all of the photos) that they did have sex that day.

Anyone else remember something like that?
 
  • #647
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  • #648
I think some might have trouble believing Travis could have sex with someone he didn't very much like. But men (and women) are sometimes led by what's in between their legs.

And sex was the one thing she was always able to get from him, throughout the whole rocky, crazy relationship. She knew what buttons to push, and a little extra sweet talk and promises of being a good girl from now on...it was no contest.
 
  • #649
And sex was the one thing she was always able to get from him, throughout the whole rocky, crazy relationship. She knew what buttons to push, and a little extra sweet talk and promises of being a good girl from now on...it was no contest.

Yes, I agree. They kept having sex even after/through the hacking, the stalking, the weird behaviour. We all know how good of a manipulator she is. If she showed up, acted all sexy promised to do all sort of kinky things, I'm betting he caved. Especially since he probably wasn't getting the type of wild sex she was offering from anyone else.
 
  • #650
I'm rewatching parts of the trial, and I'm watching day 18 and JA mentions that Travis wanted to come to Yreka and they would explore some things that were mentioned in the book about places to visit.

One thing I wish Juan would reiterate, because although WE know it because we know way too much , I don't feel like he has brought home the point that Travis never visited her and that it was always her driving so far to see him. If I was a casual watcher of this case, I would feel like they lived close to each other, saw each other more often then they actually did and that he was more involved in going to see her. This latest witness makes it sound like they were dating much longer than they did too. But I find it very telling that this was a long distance thing and that she is the one that travelled and made the effort to see him. I just don't see how they could have seen very much of each other in 5 months when they lived so far apart.
 
  • #651
Yes, I agree. They kept having sex even after/through the hacking, the stalking, the weird behaviour. We all know how good of a manipulator she is. If she showed up, acted all sexy promised to do all sort of kinky things, I'm betting he caved. Especially since he probably wasn't getting the type of wild sex she was offering from anyone else.

...and wouldn't be for quite some time.
 
  • #652
IMO the photos were another way to put him at ease. *hey, let's break in that new camera*. They had talked at length about taking photos such as these on the sex tape. Juan actually sealed two more of the sex pics. Not sure I even want to know what those were of if they are even more graphic than the two close ups of her lady parts and butt :doh:

I hope and pray that we never know what those sealed photos were that JM determined should not be shown in court. I might hazard a guess that they were of TA and JM sealed them to protect him since he did not need them to be made public in order to prove their case. But if not, then I can't even imagine--nor do I want to.
 
  • #653
I just finished watching CMJA's allocution again (just to refresh my memory of something). I had recalled that DB had requested his face not be shown when he testified, in order to protect his minor son. Just to show the extent of evil that resides in CMJA, sure enough, she power pointed a photo of DB, his minor son, and herself. It was a final slap to DB I believe. That murderess is beyond pure evil. Hopefully he has now come to realize just how lucky he and his son are. :freakedout:
I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for DB. He moaned and groaned to not have his face shown during testimony, then immediately goes out and does a media interview. He also lied about the DVD player.

Regarding his child, I feel bad for him having a father who protects and lies for a murderer. JMO
 
  • #654
Does anyone know what Plea Deal Jodi wanted? I can't imagine her agreeing to even one day in jail. In all her after trial interviews she was till making stuff up.....her family and friends saw bruising....and a man saw bruising "all OVER", etc etc....ya, right.
 
  • #655
WOW Maria was not someone that had previously crossed my mind. This is an interesting guess. Why do you think she was the witness?

I don't see how MDLR could be called as a witness since she is considered part of the DT. That was the reason for all the brouhaha the other day.
 
  • #656
Does anyone know what Plea Deal Jodi wanted? I can't imagine her agreeing to even one day in jail. In all her after trial interviews she was till making stuff up.....her family and friends saw bruising....and a man saw bruising "all OVER", etc etc....ya, right.

She wanted 2nd degree murder. That carries a sentence of life with possibility of release one day.
 
  • #657
So, I signed up for Beth Karas On Crime site and read some interesting pages in between Sky, Travis, and Chris. A mention is "Brandy", couple of times. It seems like he dated her? Anyone remember a "Brandy".
 
  • #658
IMO, the issue with “was there 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on TA’s computer” is purely a DT attempt to show prosecutorial misconduct. Whether or not TA viewed 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is a side issue. It doesn’t matter; it never did (unless the DT had irrefutable proof of pedophilia, and we all know THAT didn’t happen).

As a bull-dog prosecutor, facing the oft times superior rights of the defendant (innocent until proven guilty), JM HAS been called out by AZ judges … not just reporters. He’s had his posterior slapped numerous times (insert “so debasing, I love it” comment here).

Point is: Let’s hope JM did not, finally, cross the line. Can’t imagine why he or the detectives WOULD; JA clearly killed Travis 3X over.

I’m thinking the TA laptop review by the original DT went something like this:

“Judge, we demand to look at all the evidence, without any ‘hands on’ by Mesa PD.”

Judge: “OK. Mesa PD? Turn over the original evidence. Not the mirror images. The originals.”

(Hard Drive is presented to DT)

DT: “We demand the laptop be powered up”

Pros: “Okie dokie, then.”

IMO. IMO.

I've only read about Juan getting "spanked by a judge" when the defense accused him of getting something to them too late. It was an allegation brought by the defense and the judge kind of overreacted. Nothing criminal or underhanded or along the lines of hiding evidence and it was resolved. Other than that, I'll just take your word for it.
 
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She wanted 2nd degree murder. That carries a sentence of life with possibility of release one day.

Actually it would have been more like 25 years in AZ.
 
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