Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/17-11/18/14 In recess

[katiecoolady]

On another note, I just went searching, to make a point about Death Row inmates receiving celebrity and noticed the Canadian Coalition Against the Death Penalty site is down. I barked at them long ago about their keeping Rudi Apelt on their "singles ad" looking site long after he'd been released from Death Row. With a photo of him holding my sister's dog. My attorney was also fighting about these "glamorizing killers" sites which solicited funds, pen pals, wives, etc. Looks like it's down now. Good.
Although the error message was about too much bandwith used. Whatever.

here is a thread where I scrapped with them in 2009 on their message board:
http://ccadp.proboards.com/thread/7586/rudi-apelt-get-off-site

www.ccadp.org

 

[gcharlie]

I put together something to show my take on Dr. F, the expert in deviant sexuality:

 

[AZlawyer]

I like it. What happened?
Of course, creeds don't mean much if an unscrupulous lawyer decides not to abide by it. Sort of like someone just mouthing his marriage vows without true conviction. Or in this day and time, a doctor taking the Hippocratic oath and not caring one iota about his patient. Happens way too much. I am of the belief Nurmi falls under the "unscrupulous attorney" list.

What happened was that I was just barely able to get it passed out of my committee (the Professionalism Committee), but the State Bar Board of Governors kept continuing it to the next agenda until it finally fell off the agenda altogether. Then the State Bar disbanded the Professionalism Committee for a few months, then reconstituted it with different people.

Well IMO, her "acts" since her conviction and even before are relevant but Juan is not allowed to bring them in. And to me, that is not fair to Travis.

Which acts do you mean? He has brought in a lot of them, so I'm trying to think what's been left out.

 

[katiecoolady]

The fact that a grown professional careerwoman has "Cougarloucious" as her twitterhandle tells me everything I need to know about her. :laughing:

And you missed, what my Grandma would have referred to as "getups" she wore or wears in court. Her dangly earrings were so loud you could hear her shaking her head across the room. Or looking down at her phone and tweeting or whatever she was doing constantly in court.

 

[katiecoolady]

gcharlie those graphics are freaking hilarious! I almost spit out my coffee. Absurdity squared.

 

[gcharlie]

gcharlie those graphics are freaking hilarious! I almost spit out my coffee. Absurdity squared.

Glad I made you laugh. I was hoping that you especially would appreciate them.

 

[RickshawFan]

I have a question about prison. Have the inmates at the prison where the murderer will go seen the disgusting photos of her?

Maybe seeing compromising photos of your future prison pal are moot, 'cos seeing it all (live and in the flesh) in the prison shower will be a whole lot more illustrative? Though, presumably prisoners can't get Brazilians, so maybe you're quite right, and the photos would show a little more of JA's skin than the prison reality?

 

[hindsight2020]

Does anyone know why Dr. Hiatt (Travis Friend) was not called as a witness in the guilty phase or if he may/can be called this time around? TIA

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1301/15/ng.01.html

Excerpt:

GRACE: When his tires were slashed, Dr. Hiatt, what were his thoughts on that?

HIATT: Well, I don`t really know. I just know he knew she was serious and that she was extremely upset. And you know, he was with her for about five months, just trying to figure out, you know, who she was and was dating her and seriously was pursuing her, you know?

But as he got to know her more and more, he realized that she wasn`t the one for him. And this really -- the tire slashing solidified that decision, that it was a good one to break up with her.

And he wanted to change his life and move on and be more positive, and I think she was kind of dragging him down. So he knew he`d made the right decision, especially after the tires were slashed.

 

[Hez]

And you missed, what my Grandma would have referred to as "getups" she wore or wears in court. Her dangly earrings were so loud you could hear her shaking her head across the room. Or looking down at her phone and tweeting or whatever she was doing constantly in court.

MDLR basically functions as a highly paid companion pony for the killer, to keep her calm during court so we don't get to see her do the stun-belt dance. :happydance:

 

[AZlawyer]

Does anyone know why Dr. Hiatt (Travis Friend) was not called as a witness in the guilty phase or if he may/can be called this time around? TIA

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1301/15/ng.01.html

Excerpt:

GRACE: When his tires were slashed, Dr. Hiatt, what were his thoughts on that?

HIATT: Well, I don`t really know. I just know he knew she was serious and that she was extremely upset. And you know, he was with her for about five months, just trying to figure out, you know, who she was and was dating her and seriously was pursuing her, you know?

But as he got to know her more and more, he realized that she wasn`t the one for him. And this really -- the tire slashing solidified that decision, that it was a good one to break up with her.

And he wanted to change his life and move on and be more positive, and I think she was kind of dragging him down. So he knew he`d made the right decision, especially after the tires were slashed.

In the first trial, it would have been excluded as hearsay (as to what Dr. Hiatt reports that Travis said) and probably lack of foundation (as to Travis's suspicions regarding the identity of the tire-slasher). In this phase, it just isn't very relevant to whether or not Jodi's life is worth sparing.

 

[bsk]

Does anyone know why Dr. Hiatt (Travis Friend) was not called as a witness in the guilty phase or if he may/can be called this time around? TIA

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1301/15/ng.01.html

Excerpt:

GRACE: When his tires were slashed, Dr. Hiatt, what were his thoughts on that?

HIATT: Well, I don`t really know. I just know he knew she was serious and that she was extremely upset. And you know, he was with her for about five months, just trying to figure out, you know, who she was and was dating her and seriously was pursuing her, you know?

But as he got to know her more and more, he realized that she wasn`t the one for him. And this really -- the tire slashing solidified that decision, that it was a good one to break up with her.

And he wanted to change his life and move on and be more positive, and I think she was kind of dragging him down. So he knew he`d made the right decision, especially after the tires were slashed.

Maybe because tire slashing was one of the alleged acts that Juan was not allowed to introduce as I recall.

 

[hindsight2020]

Well, if we were to rely on the good doctors professional opinions, we are all sexual deviants, those that like a brazilian and especially those of us that post/text after 11pm, just when you thought you've heard it all (arghhh) . . . . where do they find these people??!!

 

[netbrsr]

MDLR basically functions as a highly paid companion pony for the killer, to keep her calm during court so we don't get to see her do the stun-belt dance. :happydance:

What if we want to see the stun-belt dance.
I might even pay per view that one.

 

[gogrannypop]

Well, if we were to rely on the good doctors professional opinions, we are all sexual deviants, those that like a brazilian and especially those of us that post/text after 11pm, just when you thought you've heard it all (arghhh) . . . . where do they find these people??!!

There ia a really big field of rocks that they look under. lol

 

[AZlawyer]

Maybe because tire slashing was one of the alleged acts that Juan was not allowed to introduce as I recall.

He definitely would have been allowed to introduce it if he'd had any evidence of it. Unfortunately, it was just speculation. I have no doubt it was correct speculation, but one can't introduce speculation...unless one is an expert on sexual deviance. :facepalm: Never mind. Once again, this turns out to be not the best case for me to use to inspire in WS members a healthy respect for the justice system.

 

[katiecoolady]

In the first trial, it would have been excluded as hearsay (as to what Dr. Hiatt reports that Travis said) and probably lack of foundation (as to Travis's suspicions regarding the identity of the tire-slasher). In this phase, it just isn't very relevant to whether or not Jodi's life is worth sparing.

Ok ok now I have to say something. This Dr. Hiatt who actually KNEW Travis, spoke with him about his fears about the person who killed him and has FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of the whole thing can't testify yet this "expert" who never met the victim, the Hughes who she's interpreting and only Jodi for a few hrs with an AGENDA is allowed.

I know i'm being redundant but really?

 

[Moonchime]

I had a terrible thought about the "emergency recess", it is just odd and I cannot find a "leak of information" that may explain it. So my terrible thought is this, Travis's family has had enough, forget going for the death sentence, stop the trial and on Thursday just go for sentencing. They want done with it and so does Juan. Just thinking out loud.

Wouldn't it be something if your hunch turns out to be true? At this point, I have to say, I hope you are correct. This entire line of testimony has to be taking such a horrendous toll on the Alexander family. They are already broken enough. They need to try to go forward with their lives. They have to do this knowing that they will never again see their brother on this earth. It's got to be creating more deep wounds to hear this malicious slandering of Travis' name. To begin living their new "normal" lives without Travis, a great start at doing so, would definitely include never having to see their brother's killer CMJA again!

 

[AZlawyer]

Ok ok now I have to say something. This Dr. Hiatt who actually KNEW Travis, spoke with him about his fears about the person who killed him and has FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of the whole thing can't testify yet this "expert" who never met the victim, the Hughes who she's interpreting and only Jodi for a few hrs with an AGENDA is allowed.

I know i'm being redundant but really?

Yeah, I know. See my post just above yours.

 

[katiecoolady]

He definitely would have been allowed to introduce it if he'd had any evidence of it. Unfortunately, it was just speculation. I have no doubt it was correct speculation, but one can't introduce speculation...unless one is an expert on sexual deviance. :facepalm: Never mind. Once again, this turns out to be not the best case for me to use to inspire in WS members a healthy respect for the justice system.

I just think the fact that this is so high profile is the perfect case to expose the unhealthy underbelly of what's going on. And I just have the big mouth to do it (and no self consciousness about it). Travis death would not be totally in vain if some reform came out of this on absolutely anything.

 

[Nali87]

In the first trial, it would have been excluded as hearsay (as to what Dr. Hiatt reports that Travis said) and probably lack of foundation (as to Travis's suspicions regarding the identity of the tire-slasher). In this phase, it just isn't very relevant to whether or not Jodi's life is worth sparing.

I don't understand how Jodi can testify on things Travis allegedly said or did but others can't..