Spycraft
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I have neglected thanking folks for their posts....I apologize. Thank you to everyone for keeping all of us so immediately updated, and for the tweet information, and especially all the sound reasoning behind these ridiculous and stomach churning accusations. Like many, I'm sure, I was in such an angry frenzy that I just read as fast as possible hoping to come to the "April Fool" moment. Sadly, not there YET.
I can't find it now, probably sealed, the zillion page motion from Nurmi where he made wild accusations about Detective Flores leaking sealed information, Mrs. Flores disseminating that "secret" information, making the video disparaging the defense, and then a multi page regurgitation of every other act of so called misconduct by the state. Nurmi included his "proof" (screen shots), dates of meetings, specific instances of Martinez "hiding evidence", intimidating, harassing and threatening witnesses. IIRC, this vomitus of a motion was "leaked" to the press, not put into his super secret vault. Yet we never heard another word, and again IIRC there was something about Martinez asking for this motion as well as his rebuttal under seal but Nurmi resisted. Or the other way around and Nurmi didn't want Juan's rebuttal public because it would show all the flaws in his motion. All Nurmi wanted was to get the accusations out to the public.
The point is, Nurmi made very inflammatory accusations against Detective Flores, his wife, Martinez, the M.E., all of it hysterically petulant and slim on facts. Is that all that is required in putting out a motion, just speculation, 3rd, 4th, or 5th party "knowledge" and the claim that given more time the truth will come out?
If he includes just enough barely plausible "truths" with zero evidence, it's okay because he was "speculating" given facts others told him???? Does that keep him out of trouble? Or can a motion just be filled with nonsensical, non fact based accusations? So as far as I know, nothing has come of that motion, at least not publicly ha ha ha.
So could that be Nurmi's sole intent with this newest heinous motion, to inflame, antagonize, accuse, taint the public perception of the prosecution team and of Travis? Furthermore to stall long enough it hear the final COA ruling on the 25th? When all this trash is found to be nothing more than salacious vicious trash, can Nurmi just say 'sorry, I thought it was true....must have "misheard."
(Last year didn't Nurmi motion to have the criminal records of Travis because he heard the stories about someone using Travis' name during a criminal proceeding? IIRC it was immediately found to be untrue, the part about Travis having a record, but Nurmi publicly pounced on that anyway, like a free day at an all you can eat buffet?)
This is all so revolting and I just need to know how much whisper of fact, if any, has to be in a motion before an attorney can file? Or can it all just be speculation and like a game of telephone we played as kids, where someone heard something, who heard something from someone, who repeats it as fact to someone else, who claims the facts are absolutely true with a few twists of their own, who after several turns around the telephone circle, then runs to tell his mother the horrible thing he just heard (morphed multiple times) about her friend being whipped into unconsciousness by a mean
who just moved to the neighborhood. And hopefully the final chain in this game of telephone, the mother, mercifully happens to have a brain and is not one to overreact especially without the facts. And long story short, this final storyteller is sent to her room, and punished with a week of doing the dishes and no allowance for starting such a hateful rumor. I can tell you that it was a long and lonely week for me, and frustrating because none of the other players were punished.
I can't find it now, probably sealed, the zillion page motion from Nurmi where he made wild accusations about Detective Flores leaking sealed information, Mrs. Flores disseminating that "secret" information, making the video disparaging the defense, and then a multi page regurgitation of every other act of so called misconduct by the state. Nurmi included his "proof" (screen shots), dates of meetings, specific instances of Martinez "hiding evidence", intimidating, harassing and threatening witnesses. IIRC, this vomitus of a motion was "leaked" to the press, not put into his super secret vault. Yet we never heard another word, and again IIRC there was something about Martinez asking for this motion as well as his rebuttal under seal but Nurmi resisted. Or the other way around and Nurmi didn't want Juan's rebuttal public because it would show all the flaws in his motion. All Nurmi wanted was to get the accusations out to the public.
The point is, Nurmi made very inflammatory accusations against Detective Flores, his wife, Martinez, the M.E., all of it hysterically petulant and slim on facts. Is that all that is required in putting out a motion, just speculation, 3rd, 4th, or 5th party "knowledge" and the claim that given more time the truth will come out?
If he includes just enough barely plausible "truths" with zero evidence, it's okay because he was "speculating" given facts others told him???? Does that keep him out of trouble? Or can a motion just be filled with nonsensical, non fact based accusations? So as far as I know, nothing has come of that motion, at least not publicly ha ha ha.
So could that be Nurmi's sole intent with this newest heinous motion, to inflame, antagonize, accuse, taint the public perception of the prosecution team and of Travis? Furthermore to stall long enough it hear the final COA ruling on the 25th? When all this trash is found to be nothing more than salacious vicious trash, can Nurmi just say 'sorry, I thought it was true....must have "misheard."
(Last year didn't Nurmi motion to have the criminal records of Travis because he heard the stories about someone using Travis' name during a criminal proceeding? IIRC it was immediately found to be untrue, the part about Travis having a record, but Nurmi publicly pounced on that anyway, like a free day at an all you can eat buffet?)
This is all so revolting and I just need to know how much whisper of fact, if any, has to be in a motion before an attorney can file? Or can it all just be speculation and like a game of telephone we played as kids, where someone heard something, who heard something from someone, who repeats it as fact to someone else, who claims the facts are absolutely true with a few twists of their own, who after several turns around the telephone circle, then runs to tell his mother the horrible thing he just heard (morphed multiple times) about her friend being whipped into unconsciousness by a mean
who just moved to the neighborhood. And hopefully the final chain in this game of telephone, the mother, mercifully happens to have a brain and is not one to overreact especially without the facts. And long story short, this final storyteller is sent to her room, and punished with a week of doing the dishes and no allowance for starting such a hateful rumor. I can tell you that it was a long and lonely week for me, and frustrating because none of the other players were punished.
