Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 2/5 - 2/9 - Break

[little ole me]

In the heading of the 'lawyers name' it is written as Marci a Kratter. The letter 'a' is lower case?

There is such an attorney, per the internet phone book, but I would like to see confirmation from the Examiner that they did get such a letter.

Also MDLR, if she is such a professional, really needs to clean up her language, act like a professional, dress like a professional, and stop helping the inmates as she does. Then there would be no issues on reporting on MDLR actions. JMOO

And the letter is dated Jan. 7 th that was a month ago!

 

[ZoeyW]

I can understand Travis having a hard time sleeping and she always seem to call him in the middle of the damn night too. That shows she was only about herself and had no consideration that he may have to work the next day and needed his rest. I know when I had my obsessed stalker.... sleep was almost non-existent. I was afraid to sleep soundly thinking I wouldn't hear him if he broke into my home.

To me he really sounded bored, tired, and very sleepy especially in one part of it. I think he was trying to give Arias signals he was tired and wanted to get off the phone. Of course that wasn't going to happen. She was recording all of this without his permission, imo and setting him up so she was chatty as a canary and kept leading him on. I fully think she planned to use this tape against Travis and blackmail him into staying with her or she was going to use it to ruin his reputation as revenge for him no longer wanting to be with her.

The one and only nagging question that I really wish would have been answered is why Travis was so UPSET on May 26th. It had to be something terrible ........something even Travis couldn't forgive her for. Most all of his communication exchanges were nice ones toward Jodi and only a small fraction of them was when he was mad that she had lied or betrayed him in someway. But even this exchange was far different from the ones even when he was upset with her the prior few times he was.

Whatever it was had to be HUGE for Travis to tell her she had hurt him even more than the death of his father. I read a long list on the profile of a narcissist and it said they will do everything in their power to destroy someone who is trying to expose them. I think whatever this was ......was the catalyst that put the premeditation in motion. Once Travis said what he did on May 26th to JA he became a dead man walking and didn't know it.

She will go to her grave before she ever tells anyone the truth about why Travis was so upset with her. The secret died with Travis and she will never tell either.

IMO

I do not think Travis was on Ambien. He very simply was not that into Jodi and could not feign a genuine romantic talk. I agree with you. She bored him at this point. That is how it sounded to me. When she tried to move the talk anywhere past a 1800 call girl he yawned. She bored him. OVERTLY.

Regarding the fight on the 26th Chris and Sky discuss it here

http://youtu.be/X36lObDdBUU

They had the password and were able to go through ALL of Travis' emails with Jodi. They made a diligent effort and remain stumped. So , I agree with you, all we can do is guess.
She likely said she was sending the sex tape to Brooke, a new young lady at the church he was interested in. Her brother admitted that she recorded it without his knowledge to send to any potential love interest of Travis. She also likely told him she would send it to his bosses at PPL. She may have even faked another pregnancy or claimed she felt compelled to have an abortion since he didn't want to commit. I think it was who she was threatening to send the tape to;that hurt him and angered him so; because a little further in that May 26th argument, JA says she will call her lawyer on Monday. That makes sense that Travis' comeback was you better not or I'll have you brought up on charges as recording me is illegal. He took it down long ago, but Chris was able to get a screen shot of Joey Arias admitting the tape was to blackmail Travis

 

[Truth Detector]

The police report about the robbery stated that Grampa said the gun would be about 3 to 4 inches long. I guess, since seeing this picture, that would be pretty accurate.

For scaling purposes:

 

[LinTX]

Differend people. Juror13 is Lisa Salinger. The 13th juror is Paul Sander. Really Big Mean Dog is Kelly.

Confused here. The Juror13 blog connects to her Amazon author page and it says Lisa Wilson, who just released a book on JA.

Ah.. Just went back to re-read. MDLR does not go by Cha cha on her twitter. She goes by Faithwillsaveus or something like that. Bogus tweet.
Forgive me for having the Sunday afternoon sleepies.

That Cha Cha twitter is a parody account. There are several for people in this case.

In the heading of the 'lawyers name' it is written as Marci a Kratter. The letter 'a' is lower case?

There is such an attorney, per the internet phone book, but I would like to see confirmation from the Examiner that they did get such a letter.

Also MDLR, if she is such a professional, really needs to clean up her language, act like a professional, dress like a professional, and stop helping the inmates as she does. Then there would be no issues on reporting on MDLR actions. JMOO

Kratner is the same attorney MDLR used to get a RO on Jason Weber (the owner of one of those JA supporter websites), but just because SW posted it doesn't mean it's real. I don't pay enough attention to SW to judge her own ability to spell <grin>. But reading it, I'm wondering why MDLR would want any more light shed on her actions re: getting that "art" out of the jail inside an envelope labeled legal papers. Said artwork sold to benefit her client not too long afterward. But at least we now know how they dug up Julian Bond, PI...

 

[lisasalinger]

Excellent, Lisa. Your blog was a treasure trove of information and a must-read during the Pistorius fiasco, which made the verdict even more bitter imo.

Hey Deb, thanks Hope all is well! We'll be back on the OP train later this year.

 

[Truth Detector]

lol Is it true that the one and only " cougarlicious " does the killers posts for her Twitter account? They sure are made for each other...

My conjecture is that "Cougarluscious [sic]" aka Cha Cha aka MDLR



texts instructions to the minions on "behave [sic]" of the especially cruel lying torture murderess.

 

[Truth Detector]

In the heading of the 'lawyers name' it is written as Marci a Kratter. The letter 'a' is lower case?

There is such an attorney, per the internet phone book, but I would like to see confirmation from the Examiner that they did get such a letter.

Also MDLR, if she is such a professional, really needs to clean up her language, act like a professional, dress like a professional, and stop helping the inmates as she does. Then there would be no issues on reporting on MDLR actions. JMOO

Not professional enough?

 

[Caylee Advocate]

 

[RickshawFan]

I loved it in Flores' interrogation that she assumed and then begged to go to the ladies room by herself and blithely claimed she could be trusted. And then the deputy pretty much implied that she would never again in her life be able to go to the bathroom with LE present. I thought that was verging on the worst punishment a gal could possibly imagine! I can't remember if she got cuffed to go to the bathroom. Ooh! I just loved that moment.

Fixes a typo:

I loved it in Flores' interrogation that she assumed and then begged to go to the ladies room by herself and blithely claimed she could be trusted. And then the deputy pretty much implied that she would never again in her life be able to go to the bathroom without LE present. I thought that was verging on the worst punishment a gal could possibly imagine! I can't remember if she got cuffed to go to the bathroom. Ooh! I just loved that moment.

 

[MarVa]

...She may have even faked another pregnancy or claimed she felt compelled to have an abortion since he didn't want to commit.

Another pregnancy? Did she previously claim to be pregnant? I missed that. I must be misinterpreting this. :thinking:

 

[Spellbound]

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=TVA
(don't know why the link can't be clicked, but copy/paste works)

There are only 15 candles lit now.

 

[bsk]

Now this is rich

Mit specialist cease and desist order

http://inconvenienttruthstv.blogspo...mitigation-specialist-maria.html?spref=tw&m=1


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Somebody faked the letter copy/pasting the address from
http://law-office-of-marci-a-kratter.hub.biz/

Note the lower-case 'a', the upper-case "T" in "16Th", noting the county but not the zip code. It's exact letter for letter.

 

[Hope4More]

The one and only nagging question that I really wish would have been answered is why Travis was so UPSET on May 26th. It had to be something terrible ........something even Travis couldn't forgive her for. Most all of his communication exchanges were nice ones toward Jodi and only a small fraction of them was when he was mad that she had lied or betrayed him in someway. But even this exchange was far different from the ones even when he was upset with her the prior few times he was.

Whatever it was had to be HUGE for Travis to tell her she had hurt him even more than the death of his father. I read a long list on the profile of a narcissist and it said they will do everything in their power to destroy someone who is trying to expose them. I think whatever this was ......was the catalyst that put the premeditation in motion. Once Travis said what he did on May 26th to JA he became a dead man walking and didn't know it.

She will go to her grave before she ever tells anyone the truth about why Travis was so upset with her. The secret died with Travis and she will never tell either.

IMO

I think the reason nobody can figure out that one big horrible thing is because there wasn't one. Chris and Sky went through every one of the 80,000 texts & chats. They don't know why he was so angry. Travis told Taylor what he wrote in the epic -angry, and told him that he was furious with JA for hacking into his FB account. Taylor didn't seem to think Travis' anger was out of proportion for "just" being hacked again. I think that's because Taylor understood the bigger picture of what Travis was going through.

The DT isn't wrong in saying Travis was depressed in early 2008, and remained so at least up to several weeks before he was killed. His friends are on record saying they knew this, and were concerned about him.

I won't repeat what I've posted before about his financial stresses, but they were very real and very pressing in early 2008 on through the spring. Not being able to make mortgage payments would be stressful for anyone, but I bet for Travis it was more and worse. He had bought his house just 2 years prior, after transforming himself from an indebted 80 hour a week wageslave to a very successful entrepeneur in the span of one single year. He bought his BMW in the same year. He viewed it as a symbol of his success. He was on top of the world.

Two years later. JA had destroyed his BMW. He'd spent all the $75k he took out in equity and was scrambling to refinance his house so he could afford his mortgage. He knew and his friends knew that he had let PPL business slide. In his last journal entries he writes of having to focus more, work more, earn more. That wasn't about getting further ahead. It referred to catching up and stablizing financially.

Finances and faith. Travis loved his religion and depended upon his faith. Friends say he lost his Temple Recommend - for the second time- in late 2007. The loss means he must have gone to his Bishop. Whatever his Bishop told him, and no matter that Travis clearly wanted to make things right, the loss must have contributed to his depression. He was struggling on this front too.

By May 2008 JA had been destroying his soul piece by piece for a year. Travis told Taylor that he HATED himself for being intimate with JA after she moved to Mesa. Hated. Despised himself for lacking the self control to make it stop. Felt guilty that he wasn't being fair to her either. That was in 2007.

A year. A year during which Travis could not escape her, not even in his own house, his own bedroom. A year of not being able to write a word she didn't see. Not online, not at his desk, not even in his personal journal.

And beginning in fall 2007, the complete violation of his privacy extended to the women he dared to text or date. Lisa. The letter, the spying, the slashed tires, the home invasions, the intercepted texts meant for Lisa. The loss of Lisa.

Being 30 and feeling enormous pressure to marry. Searching. Wanting a wife who shared his own deep faith and commitment to the Church. But, the loss of his TR. But, JA, who wouldn't relent.

Then Mimi. From his journals it's clear that she was never going to be the One for Travis. But that misses the point. He was excited about taking her to Cancun, happy that she was willing to take a look at him as a prospective husband. Two weeks later she told him never mind, just friends. Travis was devastated. He also found out from Mimi that she never received an important email he had sent to her.

Another intercepted email to another potential girlfriend. The possibility that Lisa had spoken to Mimi and warned her- about JA. The loss of Lisa. Travis wrote weeks before his death his realization that he loved Lisa. He was trying hard to win her back. Whether or not he would have continuing pursuing Lisa also misses the point.

Mid-May 2008, Travis was beginning to understand how much damage JA had done.

ETA...just lost 20 minutes and the rest. That's what I get for writing a book instead of a post. . Tomorrow.

 

[RickshawFan]

Thanx Janx.
I did know that DB was ditched for TA. Not proud to admit I myself dumped a couple of guys for greener pastures and I feel fortunate these "ditchees" remain dear friends to this day. Seems CMJA has had the same good fortune with her exes. Now, had I done what she had done to a "successor", I'm pretty sure my exes wouldn't go on national TV to say what a great gal I once was. Nay (!), I'm most certain they'd be "no comment"-ing, pleading the 5th (or whatever the Canadian equivalent is ).

It amazes me how DB and MM continued to be supportive of her in myriad ways, both on her way to the murder and after the fact. What is/was it about her that compelled either of them to do that?

I'm not sure they are supportive. Some statements Demarte made on the stand last week suggested that they didn't want a whole lot to do with JA. MM lives as far away as he can. DB was evidently the one who broke up with her and said no when she persistently begged to get back with him. We only really have Jodi's word that these relationships have any substance. Both men might not have wanted to testify for the DT, not because they were afraid of fans of Juan, but because they were afraid of Jodi's coterie if they spoke the truth during JM's cross. Note that MM might also have had threats to his safety during the guilt-phase because the margin-notes in the glossy magazine said that he had not followed JA's guidance regarding some testimony he gave.

All the talk from the DT about threats to the safety of their witnesses may well have reflected threats from Jodi's coterie and not prosecution fans at all. I'll bet the DT was purposely being vague about who and how the threats were being made, so everyone would jump to the conclusion that they were pro-prosecution threats. They could just as easily have been pro-defense threats against witnesses Jodi considers supportive but who would turn on her on the witness stand.

DB and MM also could have flat turned down the DT because they couldn't think of anything positive to say about JA. When Demarte stated that neither MM nor DB had positive things to say about JA and had broken up with her for cause, it is easy to see that JA's version of those relationships is another layer of lies.

I'm guessing if you are a DB or an MM and your ex-girlfriend has been convicted of slaughtering in cold-blood a boyfriend who rejected her, you'd put a whooooole different spin on your relationship with the murderous princess. Looking back, minor annoyances or things you didn't want to notice might suddenly morph into massive red flags. It's obvious now that they could easily have become Jodi-victims; I'll bet they no longer have a speck of denial about the situation. How could they possibly testify for the DT under those conditions?

 

[RickshawFan]

This wasn't on Twitter, this was the JAII site. I think Justusforall is her handle over there.

Cougarlucious spelled Justusforall incorrectly, too? Bwahahaha!

 

[RickshawFan]

LOL!! Did you forget who you were speaking of?? Missy has no qualms about exposing her nether regions... Just sayin... :hills:

Definitely she doesn't care about men seeing her every little pore and porthole, but I doubt she feels at all the same about women grazing over her with their eyes. And now there are no men around to give her booty those loving, longing looks. All she gets is women, starting with that deputy at the Siskyou county sheriff's department!!!!

 

[MeeBee]

Confused here. The Juror13 blog connects to her Amazon author page and it says Lisa Wilson, who just released a book on JA.

That Cha Cha twitter is a parody account. There are several for people in this case.



Kratner is the same attorney MDLR used to get a RO on Jason Weber (the owner of one of those JA supporter websites), but just because SW posted it doesn't mean it's real. I don't pay enough attention to SW to judge her own ability to spell <grin>. But reading it, I'm wondering why MDLR would want any more light shed on her actions re: getting that "art" out of the jail inside an envelope labeled legal papers. Said artwork sold to benefit her client not too long afterward. But at least we now know how they dug up Julian Bond, PI...

Ok I'm just going on her WS name (she posted directly beneath you there, her byline says juror13). I rememebr her and her blog from the Pistorius board. Dunno about the name change, you can ask her about that.

 

[RickshawFan]

The way read it was, and I could be wrong, was that Jodi began pursuing him, and he didnt want to be with her at first. So she pressed him, as she does, and their relationship and the house came after that.

It sounded as though DB broke it off after they'd already been together a while, house and all. He didn't want to be exclusive. JA later begged him to take her back.

 

[bznbear]

Darryl Brewer. I agree with deedee that Brewer lied about Arias to protect his son. This makes sense to me.

Aunt Sue. I have not read about her relationship with Arias prior to the murder. In any case, she seems to be in it for the money. Oh, and to support her sister.

Arias' Mother. I think it's a combination of guilt + relief that her daughter will be spending her life behind bars + $$$ (I think she's planning on writing a book).

Maria. I don't want to be mean but there must be something wrong with her. It's bizarre to latch onto a murderess like that. Arias has never been able to sustain a non-sexual relationship/friendship for long so Maria better watch out. The mistress of manipulation will soon throw her under the bus.

Good points Rose. Maybe MDLR is hoping to get JA's exclusive sad life "story" for her own book deal.

 

[RickshawFan]

BBM ~ I don't think JA was ever on meds. From what I understand, BPD is triggered when abandonment/isolation occurs. Since she bolted for TA towards the end of her relationship with DB, BPD was probably not triggered. JMO

I'm betting JA's version of her relationships with DB, BJ, and MM is all a lie and that she was BPD-ish the whole time. We just haven't heard their side.

I don't believe BPD ebbs and flows. It is a personality disorder, pretty much "hardwired". I imagine some of the symptoms ebb and flow, e.g. the mood swings. And some symptoms can be mitigated with medication (again, the mood swings), but you can't medicate down the BPD.

The therapy aspect of BPD treatment is worked like a 12-step program by the BPD-er. They have to be on themselves all the time to nip their behavior in the bud and prevent relapses. In other words, they aren't treating or ameliorating their BPD, they're noticing and managing their urges.