Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #3

[janx]

"On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."--cartoonist Peter Steiner, 1993. (Published in The New Yorker initially, I believe.)

 

[krkrjx]

Is jury selection supposed to continue tomorrow (Thursday)? I am wondering why the killer opted to not be in attendance tomorrow.

 

[YESorNO]

I just caught up from the portion I missed this afternoon ... so do I have this correct:

There are still NO potential jurors ... none ... nada ... zip ?

:thinking: Then obviously, something is wrong ... something is terribly wrong.

And please correct me IF I am wrong ... but from what I read, they were dropping like flies again today ...

:moo:

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 3m 3 minutes ago
179 jurors total have made it to next step. Will fill out questionnaires and come back for more questioning #jodiarias

 

[YESorNO]

Is jury selection supposed to continue tomorrow (Thursday)? I am wondering why the killer opted to not be in attendance tomorrow.

She's finally realizing that she's in deep, deep s**t?

 

[Zuri]

I followed Mrs. Flores on Twitter until she shut it down in March. There have been 3 fake Twitter accounts since that posted all kinds of stuff. She did not reveal anything that was sealed that I saw. Were there some questionable things on YouTube? Yes. They were shut down.

The #Heinous Is Innocent people are behind a lot of this info. I am not sure that I trust their veracity. We shall see.

 

[Zuri]

Is jury selection supposed to continue tomorrow (Thursday)? I am wondering why the killer opted to not be in attendance tomorrow.

Reality Bites

 

[krkrjx]

Arias has been claiming for a long time that Martinez and Flores (possibly others, I do not recall offhand) were dishonest and manipulated evidence to suit their theories. I wonder if this current motion is just an extension of that. In her initial claims she offered no proof; only conjecture.

I cannot imagine what would need 60 pages but it is hard to believe anyone got hold of sealed documents, given I thought all the sealed stuff was submitted by the defense. IOW, a detective would never have access to it, much less his family members. Martinez might be privy but he does not strike me as clueless and there is no way he would leak sealed info. If I saw actual video footage of him doing so I would at first assume it was counterfeit.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Is jury selection supposed to continue tomorrow (Thursday)?

I am wondering why the killer opted to not be in attendance tomorrow.

BBM:

:thinking: Maybe she is finally realizing how really hated she is, and she just cannot take any more of those potential jurors' comments that cannot be impartial ... blah blah blah ... Oh well, CMJA !

But no doubt, whatever CMJA will be doing tomorrow instead of being in court, you can bet she is "up to no good" !

:moo:

 

[krkrjx]

Thanks, dgc. I thought it might be something like that. Like maybe, she smiled at some jurors and they didn't smile back...

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 3m 3 minutes ago
179 jurors total have made it to next step. Will fill out questionnaires and come back for more questioning #jodiarias

:seeya: Thank You, YorN !

So, I guess that means there is some progress ...


:tantrum: Oh how I wish there were LIVE cameras so we would REALLY know wth is going on in that courtroom !

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Arias has been claiming for a long time that Martinez and Flores (possibly others, I do not recall offhand) were dishonest and manipulated evidence to suit their theories. I wonder if this current motion is just an extension of that. In her initial claims she offered no proof; only conjecture.

:seeya: Hi krkrjx !


Snipped & BBM: Pot meet Kettle !

I guess CMJA seems to have forgotten that SHE was the one writing cryptic messages in magazines and trying to "sneak" these magazines out of the jail ...

We could go on for days about the "sneakiness" of CMJA ...

There is NO WAY that Mr. Martinez and Det. Flores would do anything to jeopardize this penalty phase ...

They are totally committed to Justice for Travis!

 

[Tiki]

Here's the motion:

http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/JodiAriasMotionOct1.pdf

 

[MeeBee]

I followed Mrs. Flores on Twitter until she shut it down in March. There have been 3 fake Twitter accounts since that posted all kinds of stuff. She did not reveal anything that was sealed that I saw. Were there some questionable things on YouTube? Yes. They were shut down.

The #Heinous Is Innocent people are behind a lot of this info. I am not sure that I trust their veracity. We shall see.

Out of curiosity what questionable things did she post on YT? I'm guessing not sealed info. How could she even have sealed info.

Notice how every one of Nurmi's motions, every single one, has to do with social media, what's going on on social media, what's said on social media, what happening in the media, etc?

 

[YESorNO]

http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/JodiAriasMotionOct1.pdf

See you all tomorrow.

 

[MeeBee]

Ok, so all their complaints about the failure to turn over evidence has to do with evidence that WAS turned over and used in the trial. They got nothing there.

 

[MeeBee]

Ok, I don't know anything about a court staff member Saying Martinez should be stabbed 27 times (reading the motion) but the thing about the jury complaint about the quality of the chairs vs. Laviolette's salary was not sealed information. We all heard about this when it happened in the media. In fact, I think it was first reported by AZ reporters. Ms. Flores knows about this because we all know about this. So I'm not sure what they could possibly be getting at there.

 

[MeeBee]

And the YT vid she posted is questionable. But that is clearly just more tattling and petty worries about the wrong things. I'd also like to see if she created this video or simply posted it from an outside source. The rest, same old, same old, Juan's a bully, he's too agressive, didn't get fair trial. Blah blah blah. I'd love to hear AZL's opinions on this motion.

 

[bsk]

Arias has been claiming for a long time that Martinez and Flores (possibly others, I do not recall offhand) were dishonest and manipulated evidence to suit their theories. I wonder if this current motion is just an extension of that. In her initial claims she offered no proof; only conjecture.

I cannot imagine what would need 60 pages but it is hard to believe anyone got hold of sealed documents, given I thought all the sealed stuff was submitted by the defense. IOW, a detective would never have access to it, much less his family members. Martinez might be privy but he does not strike me as clueless and there is no way he would leak sealed info. If I saw actual video footage of him doing so I would at first assume it was counterfeit.

BBM - Well, if Nurmi is as long-winded while dictating as he is while questioning witnesses....

 

[T-4-2]

snips:

Nurmi basically blackmailed the judge into banning live cameras because he promised these witnesses that there wouldn't be cameras and that's why they agreed to testily for the convict....

... All the judge had to do this time was allow the witnesses to testify without the camera on them, just like they did for Darryl Brewer. Banning cameras isn't going to prevent their names from getting out. Especially when all the court tweeters will hear, "The defense calls______ to the stand". 140 characters later and it will be out there.

He said there were witnesses. And that he promised these "witnesses" there'd be no live cameras in court, and that these "witnesses" agreed to testify if and only if there were no live cameras.

Yup, blackmail (if there actually are any witnesses, which I doubt), or bluff (if there are no witnesses). It's a win-win for Team Whine, unfortunately. The no-live-camera request has, I suspect, basically nothing to do with whatever lame-, irrelevant witnesses they want to trot out. (All... what? One of them? Two tops?) As others have pointed out, it's about establishing grounds for appeal based on the notion that if live cameras are not allowed now, then nor should they have been allowed previously and that the fact that they were allowed was unfair to Jodi. So: no live cameras now = previous live cameras unfair = grounds for appeal.

If, when Nurmi made his "no live cameras" request this time, the judge had told him to take a flying leap -- well, that would have given us all an amusing mental image to chuckle over, but unfortunately her refusal would still have given Nurmi something he could try to turn into grounds for appeal. Live cameras now = no "witnesses" = unfair to Jodi = grounds for appeal.

I do actually find myself getting kind of excited to find out if Nurmi presents any witnesses, who they are, and what they could possibly contribute (beyond what they've already contributed as grist for the "delay mill"). Or will he not present any witnesses despite the absence of live cameras? (And if not, why not -- hopefully he'd have to at least offer an explanation).

Jodi should have been sent to death row a long time ago. I'm not a supporter of the DP, but it's the law in Arizona and she exceeds the requirements. Since all death sentences are reviewed (right?) all these fairness/unfairness questions could be discussed during Jodi's review. Precisely none of this matters anyway, because, as Hez points out, TWITTER! Also, the "no live cameras" ruling won't keep Jodi's witnesses out of the public eye. If they're afraid of threats, I don't see how this really changes anything for them ... it just delays the threats Nurmi claims they are afraid of.

And anyway: TWITTER! 140 characters x God only knows how many keyboards. Clearly, none of this has anything to do with witness protection.

I'm just the crazy woman in the attic, but this is how it looks to me.

 

[Hopeful One]

I've never smelled decomp, but evidently it's both horrible and distinctive. If I shared a house with someone and I noticed an increasingly awful smell coming from behind their locked door and permeating the entire house, I seriously doubt I'd think dead body right off the bat, if at all. I read somewhere (who knows if it's true) that the space cadet housemates thought Napoleon must have pooped in Travis' bedroom and that Travis left for Cancun without cleaning it up. Right. That sounds likely. No one would leave a pile of poop on their bedroom floor and just take off. Especially not a neatnik like Travis. And dog poop would smell less over time, not more. They have my sympathy, but they should have realized that something was way wrong in that room and gotten that door open way sooner. Maybe the toilet was backing up in some spectacular way -- that's not something you'd let continue! Maybe they did start thinking that something had died in there. Maybe a raccoon or a rat fell through a ceiling tile. But you don't just leave it there to ripen! I bet Jodi was counting on the housemates' "hear nothing, see nothing, speak nothing, and SMELL nothing" attitude -- this would buy her more time.

But that brings up another mystery: why the heck didn't she just skedaddle out of Dodge ASAP? Doesn't the Murder For Dummies book have a chapter about the importance of not hanging out at your grandparents' house for a couple of weeks post-murder? Maybe she was trying not to attract attention -- for only the second time in her life. If that were the case, she should maybe have skipped the memorial service and she should have skipped calling Det. Flores. Just not her style I guess.

I am certainly late to the game in replying to this but I just started reading and had to say something .

I don't agree that the roommates should have realized something was way wrong in Travis's room and that no one would leave poop on the floor. I live with three other people, two of them are of the male gender. Let me tell you what... they would see poop and walk past it and ignore it all day long, every single day, always. A foul smell? Well, they'd ignore that too.