Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 19 - Shortest Court Day, EVER

[Shadowboy]

Not sure what is happening tomorrow. Do I make a new thread, or not? If I do, what should I call it? :findinglink:

Sue D. Nimh and the Secrets of Maricopa County?

 

[Truth Detector]

Not sure what is happening tomorrow. Do I make a new thread, or not? If I do, what should I call it? :findinglink:

Nothing on JSKS' Court Calendar prior to Oral Arguments on 1/8 & 1/9.

 

[Ruby]

Is the layout of the website changing - or am I on for too long???

 

[lisette]

Please forgive me. When I read your posts immediately I thought "years from now 12 little men and women are walking out of chambers ~ long grey hair , beards , bifocals , false teeth , saying are you certain it is over?" . By now JA. is in a wheel chair , half blind ,(you know why) going to newly built Perryville still chanting ~~"they will never convict me of murder"..Final chapter.

Hilarious picture!:laughing:

 

[mydirtysecret]

I hope that Juan has pulled in help from another ada at this juncture. I know he is a one man show but with all the manipulation, tactics the defense is throwing up he needs as many investigators available to him as possible

 

[AngelWings444]

Not sure what is happening tomorrow. Do I make a new thread, or not? If I do, what should I call it? :findinglink:

Poor Lamby. Maybe you can leave it as a "possibility," like the status phone call. May happen, may not happen. :fence:

 

[MeeBee]

The context is typically civil as opposed to criminal justice.


Source: http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/special-master/

Special Master Law & Legal Definition



A Special Master, in law, is an authority appointed by a judge to make sure that judicial orders are actually followed. They are employed in complex civil actions where their expertise is needed to assist the court. Special Masters can also be established by the congress to assist with the admistrative [sic] claims against the government. Special Masters are appointed pursuant to Rule 53 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Special Masters are compensated for their work. The rate of compensation is set by the court and the parties pay the costs. In US, cases involving Special Masters often involve situations where it has been shown that governmental entities are violating civil rights. Reference of a case to a master shall be the exception and not the rule.

The use of masters is "to aid judges in the performance of specific judicial duties, as they may arise in the progress of a cause, and not to displace the court." [La Buy v. Howes, 352 U.S. 249, 256 (U.S. 1957)].

So it was probably merely a suggestion as opposed a reported fact, since they have to do with Civil cases.

 

[LambChop]

Poor Lamby. Maybe you can leave it as a "possibility," like the status phone call. May happen, may not happen. :fence:

I could go for Pseudo?

 

[Sulamith]

Not sure what is happening tomorrow. Do I make a new thread, or not? If I do, what should I call it? :findinglink:

I would make a new thread and call it "Into the Abyss" MOO

 

[atthelake]

Just getting in and haven't read threads from today..but know the gist of what happened. Reading all the submissions, and I had to :laughcry: at this....

In another sealed hearing on October 30, 2014, the court conducted a Waller analysis (RT 10/30/14, p10) and considered Arias’ ability, due to her documented psychological disorders, to present her own testimony in mitigation with the pressure and constant media broadcasting of what she was saying and how she was saying it and the additional factor, in her case, of the threats she endures as a part of her testimony. The court found this to be intimidating, (RT 10/30/14, p7,9-10) Further the court found that specific people were attempting to visit Arias to threaten her. (RT 10/30/14, p15
-16, 21)

SHM...oh dear... the court found she was intimidated.

And then Nurmi goes on to state

Reasons in Support of Granting Petition
1. The Court of Appeals ignored specific findings by the trial court in determining that Arias’ request to close the courtroom during the death penalty phase of her trial did not amount to clear and present danger.
2. The Court of Appeals failed to consider Arias’ constitutional claims of the Fifth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution
. Because this is a death penalty case, Arias’ rights must be balanced against the First Amendment rights of the public.

Yeah Nurmi, she is in prison...so she's well protected from folks on the web or folks that want to visit her in prison that don't like her. Not a clear and present danger. And second, they said in their response to you that they didn't even need to consider the constitutional claims that you submitted.

Quoting FCA... Waste, a huge waste. But guess since he's on the taxpayers dime dragging this circus out is his goal. I'm just surprised that they didn't do a filing after the holidays of a juror posting inappropriately. Big fail on that happening Nurmi...

Why am I thinking that their new strategy for this redo of the sentencing phase has F.A.L.L.E.N.A.P.A.R.T and they are just blowing up now. Oh to be a fly on the wall as they now don't know what the h3ll they are to do next...so just delay and delay

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to participate in this penalty phase retrial. Additionally, Defendant stated her ability to testify would be affected and her ability to say what she needed
to say to the jury would be impaired because of her concerns regarding the characterization of hat testimony by the media and the public and how it will affect her future. (ME 10/31/14, p1-2)The Court of Appeals determined that the threats in this case did not equalclear and present danger that would impede Arias’ right to a fair trial with an impartial jury and that she would still be able to present mitigation. (COA Decision, p6 - 7 ) However, t
his Court has consistently recognized that threats delivered to witnesses, trial counsel, jurors and/or court staff do have a significant impact on
the fairness of a criminal trial holding that “the spirit of a fair trial is one in which the search for truth and justice is unhampered by any feelings of fear, in timidation or revenge. Witnesses and other persons must feel safe, secure and unafraid as they enter an Arizona courthouse.” Bush at 330. Bush
involved direct intimidation by the victim’s family and friends, however in the 21 st century, the advancements in technology put the public from around the world inside the courtroom, real time, with the ability to reach out to witnesses, counsel and defendant with a mere stroke of a keypad. At the end of the day, a witness testimony is played, replayed and analyzed before they can finish their testimony the next day.

:floorlaugh: Yeah Jodi, yours will be fodder for us..we are awaiting it!

 

[Ricki]

Poor Lamby. Maybe you can leave it as a "possibility," like the status phone call. May happen, may not happen. :fence:

I don't get why this status phone call is left only as a possibility..and why by phone? What is the determining factor that would make this phone call actually happen?

 

[Koshka]

"security clearance" is a loosely used term.

Exactly. "Security clearance" from what entity?

 

[AngelWings444]

I could go for Pseudo?

:drumroll: :silly:

 

[Caylee Advocate]

For me, I have not, and will not let this penalty phase consume me. No trial or it's players is going to wrap around me like a boa constrictor cutting off my airway. I have a deep interest in the outcome, and my hope and thoughts are for the family and friends of Travis, they are the ones who suffer daily. Regrettably there will always be victims that are lost to senseless murders. Some are just brought to the forefront more than others, per the media. Had the MSM not picked this up, I doubt most of us would have ever heard CMJA's name. It is a very sad and cruel murder yes, but just knowing that this evil monster will only leave the gates of Perryville via a gurney is good enough for me, and my vote don't count. I pray that Travis' family can find peace one day.

 

[mydirtysecret]

Azlawyer,boyntown why is nurms citing "constant media broadcasting" in his appeals when the trial is clearly not broadcast and spectators are limited to 140 letter tweets for the "live" version of testimony (I'd hardly call that broadcasting) when his client, IS ON TWITTER! Most, if not ALL of what nurmi is citing is situations his client or witnesses brought directly onto themselves. The state cannot stop witnesses or defendants from going on media blitzes so why is it then fair for them to claim the right to privacy when they aren't perceived the way they intended. It makes no legal sense to create the drama,stir the boiling pot and then ask for the courts to throw a hundred years if jurisprudence in the toilet because you don't want to be stuck in the fire

 

[atthelake]

I would make a new thread and call it "Into the Abyss" MOO

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Not sure what is happening tomorrow.

Do I make a new thread, or not?

If I do, what should I call it? :findinglink:

:seeya: Some suggestions for the new thread while we :waiting: for CMJA and the DT to advise JSS when they are ready to resume the Re-Trial:

- While We Wait on Nurmi's Motions to Be Heard Thread

- Welcome to My Nightmare Thread

- We are in the Twilight Zone Thread

- The Indefinite Suspension of the Re-Trial Thread

:dunno: just trying to help out ...

:seeya:

 

[AngelWings444]

:seeya: Any ideas on who you think this "Psuedo" person is ?

TIA !

I'm lost when it comes to all this computer stuff and who looked at the computer/hard-drives ... but I try to keep up with it

My first thought was Bond, but now I don't know. I just know it isn't JA because they kept referencing a "he." Well...never mind.

 

[AZlawyer]

I'm laughing so hard. Ever since Juan referred to this mystery computer forensics guy as Pseudonym (what else could he call him?), others have followed suit. Karas tweeted from outside the courtroom that she saw the defense leave with a man who must have been Pseudonym.

:floorlaugh:

Beth posted earlier that the defense team left with a man that she did not recognize but that she presumed to be Pseudo. Since Beth did not recognize him, many folks can be ruled out

Can she describe the man? Black? White? Brown? Tall? Short? Fat? Thin? Beard? Large mole on forehead? Come on, BK, give us something to work with!

Question for AZL: BN get on the stand and states he is a forensic computer expert and we are led to believe that he was doing all the analysis. Later we find out that Mr. Pseudo is in fact the one doing the analysis and BN has no knowledge and understanding about how the analysis was done because he is just an audio video expert.Would this be an issue as to BN being truly a forensic computer expert?
Would all the cases BN has testified to as a forensic computer expert be called into question?

It doesn't really matter if he's "really" an expert as long as he's only testifying in front of the judge. Juan is free to point out any shortcomings in BN's qualifications or understanding of the analysis done.

This case would have no effect on any other cases in which BN has testified, but IIRC he has never testified as a computer forensics expert before.

AZ lawyer, if there was child on Travis computer it means Jodi put it there. My earlier post talks about jodi sneaking into TA home and accessing his computer. First came the fake pedo letters. That did not work. Im sure Jodi crawled through the dogs door more times than TA realized.

Oh, I agree with you. Juan would certainly be free to point out that possibility.

So if Sue D. Nimh is allowed to remain nameless, will the PT simply “accept” this person’s credentials without eliciting experience, background, etc. on the record during the hearing?

IDK, but it seems if this person’s qualifications are discussed at length, some smart folks on this forum will be able to figure out who it is.

Plus, I’m still mystified why an expert who has “bombshell” information in a highly publicized case would want his/her identity hidden. Flies in the face of marketing oneself. Flies in the face of proudly, with conviction, presenting compelling evidence.

I can think of two primary reasons: 1) This person is someone BN knows through BN’s work with DOD/government contracts and, because of that association (due to government agreements?), Sue D. Nimh needs to fly under the radar; 2) This person knows JM will rip him/her a new “rear end” due to faulty (or unreplicable) procedures.

Anyone up to suggesting other reasons Sue D. Nimh wants to remain “black ops?”

3) Sue D. Nimh works for some company/agency that does not permit him to freelance and will fire him if they find out?

Azlawyer,boyntown why is nurms citing "constant media broadcasting" in his appeals when the trial is clearly not broadcast and spectators are limited to 140 letter tweets for the "live" version of testimony (I'd hardly call that broadcasting) when his client, IS ON TWITTER! Most, if not ALL of what nurmi is citing is situations his client or witnesses brought directly onto themselves. The state cannot stop witnesses or defendants from going on media blitzes so why is it then fair for them to claim the right to privacy when they aren't perceived the way they intended. It makes no legal sense to create the drama,stir the boiling pot and then ask for the courts to throw a hundred years if jurisprudence in the toilet because you don't want to be stuck in the fire

I haven't seen his petition, but I agree there is not much media coverage at all on this phase, even in AZ, and the only salacious/controversial coverage is the coverage initiated by the defense team.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Not sure what is happening tomorrow. Do I make a new thread, or not? If I do, what should I call it? :findinglink:

"Possible" Court Day, But Most Likely Not