Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 19 - Shortest Court Day, EVER

[Love Never Fails]

I don't believe that at all.

Hope do you really think this is just about JSS digging a hole that she cannot get out of? Is it that simple to you? I would sure like to think you are right but something is amiss.

 

[Love Never Fails]

:seeya: Hi CII ! Yep ... I totally agree !

And not only does JSS have something against JM, so does KN and JW :gaah:

Oh, forgot one: the killer :gaah:

I would be happy for JSS to prove me wrong. It is my opinion.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I'm willing to bet that the State would have decided against a penalty phase retrial if JSS had dithered and deferred this much during the original trial.

I'm sympathetic to the Alexanders for what they're going through. I genuinely can't begin to imagine their pain and frustration. That said, this retrial has convinced me AZ should reconsider allowing penalty phase retrials in DP cases.

The reality is, the State of AZ isn't going to execute JA, no matter what. The legal process is being turned inside out and upside down, all due to the faulty premise that a life is at stake. Hers isn't.

All that's at issue is what kind of cell she will occupy at Perryville for the rest of her life. Really. That's it.

Is that issue really worth squandering enormous court resources and putting the lives of jurors and the victim's family on hold for endless months? And, meanwhile, allowing a remorseless sociopathic murderer to further traumatize survivors /slander the victim himself?

IMO....no.

Ah but WHO allowed this miscarriage of justice? None other than Judge Sherry K. Stephens. And again, why is she dithering and deferring?

 

[~ Amy ~]

Is there any court today ?

 

[Luvrosco]

Is there a recent picture of her?

 

[Hope4More]

Hope do you really think this is just about JSS digging a hole that she cannot get out of? Is it that simple to you? I would sure like to think you are right but something is amiss.

Yes, I think its as simple as that. Fear of a successful appeal and/or fear of the guilt verdict being overturned IMO has paralyzed her.

I'm wondering now if she's afraid of a potential reversible error we haven't picked up on, or at least not since the first trial.

Here's one guess. The gunshot first or last tangle. A lot was attached to that one issue, including whether or not Flores perjured himself.

More on point, IIRC, (and I'm probably not), the DT accused the State of changing the sequence to gun last solely for the purpose of providing grounds to seek the DP, and further, the State did so at the last minute.

Isn't the timing of filing charges part of the upcoming multiple plaintiff DP suit?

 

[pinkandgreenmom]

Is there any court today ?

No. There "may" be a telephonic conference between attorneys and judge this afternoon (I think). Next thing we know of is scheduled for Thursday. I am pretty sure it is on the media's request to release the transcripts of secret testimony but I could be wrong.

 

[TartLemon]

Is there a recent picture of her?

There have been several posted here at WS. JA looks to have aged a lot since the trial 2 years ago.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I would be happy for JSS to prove me wrong. It is my opinion.

BBM: I totally understand this, but it will not happen.

In other words, I understand the why's and the reasons that people are willing to give JSS the benefit of the doubt, but enough is enough !

I know I'm being repetitive but I do NOT believe that this is about appeal issues any more ... JSS knows how manipulative CMJA is and JSS ought to know by now that even if she grants every single wish of CMJA and her DT, that will never be enough for them ... CMJA regardless, will still appeal.

 

[AZlawyer]

IIRC, AZL said JSS doesn't answer to anyone. She was elected by the people. I would Like to hear from AZL if I am wrong.

She was not elected. She was appointed after a lengthy application and interview process. She is, however, subject to retention elections every few years.

There is a presiding judge, but he is not really her supervisor. On the other hand, it is his job to make sure the court runs smoothly. There are periodic meetings of all the judges handling capital cases, including the presiding judge, at which they review the progress of those cases.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Hey everyone, Bernina just posted the petition for review to the supreme court of AZ by Wilmott over on the sidebar thread. Good read, although what Wilmott says is hogwash.

 

[Love Never Fails]

She was not elected. She was appointed after a lengthy application and interview process. She is, however, subject to retention elections every few years.

There is a presiding judge, but he is not really her supervisor. On the other hand, it is his job to make sure the court runs smoothly. There are periodic meetings of all the judges handling capital cases, including the presiding judge, at which they review the progress of those cases.

AZL, thank you so much. I understand now. I didn't realize she was appointed and yet is subject to elections. I think someone posted her next election is 2016. She better hope this trial is over by then.
I guess we can all hope there is a meeting scheduled in the near future of all judges handling capital cases. Of course, they might not be critical of her.
What are your thoughts of why she has allowed things to run amok or is it just me?

 

[Hope4More]

AZL....referring to my most recent post --unfortunately numbered #666 in this thread -- do you think JSS would have any reason to be concerned about issues relating to her rulings on gunshot last?

 

[Nali87]

I'm willing to bet that the State would have decided against a penalty phase retrial if JSS had dithered and deferred this much during the original trial.

I'm sympathetic to the Alexanders for what they're going through. I genuinely can't begin to imagine their pain and frustration. That said, this retrial has convinced me AZ should reconsider allowing penalty phase retrials in DP cases.

The reality is, the State of AZ isn't going to execute JA, no matter what. The legal process is being turned inside out and upside down, all due to the faulty premise that a life is at stake. Hers isn't.

All that's at issue is what kind of cell she will occupy at Perryville for the rest of her life. Really. That's it.

Is that issue really worth squandering enormous court resources and putting the lives of jurors and the victim's family on hold for endless months? And, meanwhile, allowing a remorseless sociopathic murderer to further traumatize survivors /slander the victim himself?

IMO....no.

I don't think the issue was just the state wanting a retrial. We know Jodi Arias is delusional. I can picture her proclaiming that she would never accept a LWOP sentence and I think thats the only thing JM would have been willing to offer. JA believes she's been wrongfully convicted. She wouldn't have accepted a deal- not when she still thinks she'll somehow get out of this.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Yes, I think its as simple as that. Fear of a successful appeal and/or fear of the guilt verdict being overturned IMO has paralyzed her.

I'm wondering now if she's afraid of a potential reversible error we haven't picked up on, or at least not since the first trial.

Here's one guess. The gunshot first or last tangle. A lot was attached to that one issue, including whether or not Flores perjured himself.

More on point, IIRC, (and I'm probably not), the DT accused the State of changing the sequence to gun last solely for the purpose of providing grounds to seek the DP, and further, the State did so at the last minute.

Isn't the timing of filing charges part of the upcoming multiple plaintiff DP suit?

I get what you are saying. But that makes Nurmi look super intelligent. . I mean, if he can stall and twist and file motions enough to rattle a judge, he is doing fairly well. Isn't that what the appeals process is all about? You win some. You lose some. Get on with it. You used the word paralyzed. If you are correct, that word sums it up. How shameful and sad. If true, she should consider retiring.

In my little pea brain, I think there is much more to this and that it has to do with a grievance toward the prosecutor. I don't think it is from Nurmi and Wilmott, though they are in an adversarial position with him. I think it lies solely with JSS.

Re: upcoming multiple plaintiff suit, I haven't paid attention to that.

 

[AZlawyer]

AZL, thank you so much. I understand now. I didn't realize she was appointed and yet is subject to elections. I think someone posted her next election is 2016. She better hope this trial is over by then.
I guess we can all hope there is a meeting scheduled in the near future of all judges handling capital cases. Of course, they might not be critical of her.
What are your thoughts of why she has allowed things to run amok or is it just me?

I believe the meetings are once a month so I guess they aren't having much of an effect lol. My belief is that JSS thinks she made a big mistake letting the media live stream last time and is trying to backpedal now to make up for that mistake. IMO she is only compounding the problem, though.

AZL....referring to my most recent post --unfortunately numbered #666 in this thread -- do you think JSS would have any reason to be concerned about issues relating to her rulings on gunshot last?

That was certainly her most risky substantive ruling. I think, though, that there might already have been a special action to the AZ Ct App on that subject? I'm on my phone so can't look it up too easily.

 

[Love Never Fails]

BBM: I totally understand this, but it will not happen.

In other words, I understand the why's and the reasons that people are willing to give JSS the benefit of the doubt, but enough is enough !

I know I'm being repetitive but I do NOT believe that this is about appeal issues any more ... JSS knows how manipulative CMJA is and JSS ought to know by now that even if she grants every single wish of CMJA and her DT, that will never be enough for them ... CMJA regardless, will still appeal.

We are in agreement!

 

[Love Never Fails]

I believe the meetings are once a month so I guess they aren't having much of an effect lol. My belief is that JSS thinks she made a big mistake letting the media live stream last time and is trying to backpedal now to make up for that mistake. IMO she is only compounding the problem, though.



That was certainly her most risky substantive ruling. I think, though, that there might already have been a special action to the AZ Ct App on that subject? I'm on my phone so can't look it up too easily.

Live streaming was a good thing IMO. But I do agree when she caved to the defense this time around it made her look bad.

RE: gun shot last. I don't know why that would matter. If she shot him first and he wasn't dead enough for her, she continually stabbed him and slit his throat to make sure he was dead. And if shot came last, just shows even more that she is a vengeful witch. Either way it was cold blooded and cruel and predmeditated. Of course, I know nothing about the law.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I have to run some errands. Please continue the conversation about JSS and the legal aspects, etc. I need to read and learn more. All I am sure of is my own opinion.

Thanks to all of you.

 

[Nali87]

Live streaming was a good thing IMO. But I do agree when she caved to the defense this time around it made her look bad.

RE: gun shot last. I don't know why that would matter. If she shot him first and he wasn't dead enough for her, she continually stabbed him and slit his throat to make sure he was dead. And if shot came last, just shows even more that she is a vengeful witch. Either way it was cold blooded and cruel and predmeditated. Of course, I know nothing about the law.

I think it does matter. If it was determined that she shot him first then can claim she was going for a "merciful" killing and wanted to shoot him in the head and have him die quickly/suffer less. But her "merciful" plans were messed up by him fighting back, so she had to stab him and slit his throat. She just had to.

In my opinion it's a less heinous scenario than stabbing someone, shooting them and then slitting their throat.

Anyways JSS the first judge had first written an opinion saying how heinous cruel the first scenario was and how it qualified for the DP. THEN the prosecution said that the stabbing came first and according AZL, JSS had to pretty much twist herself into a pretzel to defend her new position that stabbing first is even more heinous than the first scenario. Her ruling made it possible for this to be a DP case. Everytime she's about to lose me, I think about that and I keep believing in good old way too damn cautious JSS.

** Edited after reazing AZL's correction to what actually happened