Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 21

[Spellbound]

Could the defense strategy be to confuse the jurors so much that they have doubts about what they see/hear happening and are unable to come to an agreement on the verdict? It sure is working with me. I have no idea what is what any more :gaah::thinking:

 

[Madeleine74]

Look at what Norton just let pop up on my screen..

A month ago I wouldn't have paid it any mind. Look at what Norton does on it's own and what Spybot or some other program did on TA's computer in 2009 as well. "Misconduct" my foot.

It's because you were looking at George Clooney's acceptance speech from the Golden Globes!! {{busted!}}

 

[AZlawyer]

So I seem to recall way back when I was seriously worried about this motion to vacate the verdict and dismiss all charges that the allegation was that Travis was constantly accessing CHILD on his computer but the defense never knew about it because Det. Flores checked out the computer secretly in June 2009 and spent 2 hours deleting everything incriminating before Dworkin's copy was made.

Now the allegation is that Det. Flores touched the space bar with a pencil and didn't stop the defense team from updating iTunes? And one time Travis or someone in his house watched YouPorn for 45 minutes and probably got a virus which searched for all kinds of nasty stuff but still no child ?

Whatever.

 

[AZlawyer]

Another great article over at:

http://jodiariastrialtruth.blogspot.com/

Ah, yes, the duty of candor to the tribunal. A quaint concept apparently.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Tom Tingle ‏@TomTingle2 2m2 minutes ago
#JodiArias defense attorney Kirk Nurmi looks stern in court Mon. during sentencing retrial. Testimony about http://t.co/B8jq7LaKan

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I swear that every picture I have seen of him since this phase started.... he looks like a madman. WOW Nurmi, lighten up. You look completely insane. Just sayin' If I were Tom Tingle (photographer) I would be worried... Friday CMJA glared in the camera with an evil face, now Nurmi. Run Tingle run!!!!!

 

[Prime Mover]

Any chance that the reason JSS is waiting until Wednesday to rule on motion is to allow the data analyst additional time to examine the computer?

 

[noor]

Question for AZL.
Can the guilty verdict be overturned, for what ever reason, before Jodi is sentenced?

TIA.

 

[Truth Detector]

Not really the same. He asked if the Dr. had feelings for her. That doesn't necessarily mean romantic. The defensr is all out saying that Juan is fixated on and the reason the computer was modified is because he's a dirty old man who was looking for naked pictures of Jodi.

That content reminds me of a certain Twitter user's page...

 

[Truth Detector]

Question for AZL.
Can the guilty verdict be overturned, for what ever reason, before Jodi is sentenced?

TIA.

Don't you think that's the main reason LKN/JW/JA are behaving with such desperation?

Each passing day puts the especially cruel lying torture murderess that much closer to final mortal judgment.

 

[5bigfish5]

Could the defense strategy be to confuse the jurors so much that they have doubts about what they see/hear happening and are unable to come to an agreement on the verdict? It sure is working with me. I have no idea what is what any more :gaah::thinking:

I think so too. When they get back to deliberate and one remembers one thing from one witness, but others recorded it differently, may hit the trash heap.

 

[Nali87]

Yeah. I have been convinced for some time now that Nurmi has been dragging this out on purpose for a Win-Win. It helps give him a financial gain AND it keeps JA from going to prison.

JA thinks in her mind that she is still not convicted. To some extent she is right. Until this is finally over, I worry that she is somehow going to get out of it. This so needs to end.

One huge mistake JA and the DT is making by bringing up all these haphazard motions and alleged prosecurial misconduct distractions is those could have been good items to save during real appeals of the original verdict. I am sure she will use them again in her real appeals but I have to think that they are ruining some of their chances because Nurmi is not an appeals attorney. If JA would have saved all these things, she would have had a better chance later to use them.

With the way she has brought up everything already, an appeals court will be able to see how a lot of things were already struck down and already decided during trial.
Not to say she ever has a real chance at any appeals anyway. My goodness she murdered an innocent man in cold blood.

I honestly think if JA would have just went with a defense of claiming she lost her head in a fit of jealous rage and she is terribly sorry, throw out a bunch of fake tears, and throw herself at the mercy of the court, then she would have gotten a sentence that perhaps 1 day in the far far future she may have even gotten parole.

But her methods and way she has handled her defense has thrown what little chance she had out the window. It is a terrible defense to blast your victim and try to lie that you somehow had justification when everyone on earth already knows you viciously stabbed him and why you did it.

You know, to be honest, I think the blasting off the victim thing could have work. I'm serious. They had the "Hughes" e-mail in which the Hughes accuse TA of "abuse" and he even admits to it. They have JA's diary (which I personally don't think were altered after the fact - she was just delusional and psycho from the start) which clearly show she has issues. Even I have to admit that some of her behavior is puzzling, she doesn't react as others would.

They were doing a good job of tying this "abuse" with JA's mental issues and coming up with "mitigation".

Then they added the fact that JA and her brother were beaten as children, were never told "I love you" and lived in constant fear. Of course, this damaged woman who never had received love before would be looking for it desperately. And that love would make her stay even when being abused. And then when forced to leave, her mental issues would force her to react so violently to being abandoned.


It had potential.
Then somehow we ended up here.

 

[AZlawyer]

Question for AZL.
Can the guilty verdict be overturned, for what ever reason, before Jodi is sentenced?

TIA.

Sure.

 

[Hatfield]

WOW! Just when I was beginning to wonder if I could hang in until the end of this trial! Having the fact that there was no child found on Travis' computer made public, in front of the jury, I'll be here until the end. Of all the lies this murderer has told, that one was the most horrible!!!!! I would love to see a photo of the murderer's evil face when that truth was said. What else is left for this DT to lie about?

It is just amazing to me how many times the DT made allegations and hints of allegations that TA was into "child ".

The allegations go way back and from many different witnesses. It was all a lie and that is sad they can even make the allegations without some proof. I am glad today at least the Prosecution witness was very clear in stating it did not exist.

 

[bznbear]

We were warned by Lamb Chop to leave off the judge for now, but it's lunch break so I'll risk it.

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michaelbkiefer Judge Stephens will not allow Willmott to ask Flores about Martinez remarks. Irrelevant, too prejudicial. Motion to disqualify MCAO denied 1/12/15, 9:36 AM

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TrialDiariesJ Judge has precluded defense from trying to get in Juan was looking at on the computer #jodiarias #3tvarias 1/12/15, 9:37 AM

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TrialDiariesJ Judge also won't let defense call Juan as a witness. Now Nurmi is begging judge to let them call Juan and he wants a mistrial. #jodiarias 1/12/15, 9:38 AM

Did Nurmi and Wilmott completely lose their minds? To openly accuse the pros of lewd computer conduct and begging to cross-x JM and demand a mistrial is, idk, lunacy, loona$$y, total loss of reason, imo. This DT have relinquished professionalism entirely. They are so far afield of any mitigation here. Their behavior is truly shameful. jmho

 

[tandt]

In my mind, they're executing the Baez defense-- deflect, confuse & make no common sense.

Worked in FL and I'll bet works here. I wish they would just take the DP off the table and I believe the jury would give her LWOP b/c of how heinous of a crime it was. (and the fact they have to see that's she's cra cra)

 

[LinTX]

Jury question for detective Flores...

"Since you're a detective, can you help us find Geffner and John Smith. they've all disappeared without a trace before Juan can get a hold of them. "

Just quoting to thank you for making me actually laugh out loud today! (sorely needed after reading what rotten, despicable tactics the defense is using)

 

[noor]

Sure.

Thank you.
And I assume the verdict can only be overturned after sentencing, is through applets courts. etc.

 

[AZlawyer]

In my mind, they're executing the Baez defense-- deflect, confuse & make no common sense.

Worked in FL and I'll bet works here. I wish they would just take the DP off the table and I believe the jury would give her LWOP b/c of how heinous of a crime it was. (and the fact they have to see that's she's cra cra)

If the DP is off the table, the jury will be excused and the judge will sentence her to life (presumably LWOP--Arizona no longer has any procedure for parole so there would be no point in sentencing her to LWP).

 

[noor]

Don't you think that's the main reason LKN/JW/JA are behaving with such desperation?

Each passing day puts the especially cruel lying torture murderess that much closer to final mortal judgment.

Well, that was the reason for my question.

 

[Nali87]

One question:

JW made a big deal of saying the DT didn't get the 2008 image till 2014. Yet I think, MeeBee, posted a motion in which the DT's request for the image was granted. If the DT didn't get it back then, why didn't they ask for it again?