Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 21

[Nali87]

Being nit-picky here.... I thought you said earlier that she wasn't officially convicted until after sentencing. If that's the case then there's not a conviction to overturn until after sentencing is there?

I'm not AZL but: No conviction, but we have had a verdict: Guilty, Baby, Guilty!

 

[Luvrosco]

Sure.

Oh no! What is the likehood in your opinion that this could happen? Thanks

 

[LinasK]

But how? In one of her letters to JSS in which she asked KN to be let go, she states that he does things that she's not in agreement like. On the top of my head, I remember her writing that she did not want the sex tape played in (open) court but that KN basically told her to "suck it up". If he can do/say some things without JA approval, is he bound to her demands as well?

I don't think this is JA. I think this is KN and JW doing the writing and doing the talking. They thought they had hit the JACKPOT! and that they could get JM on misconduct, had found child porn, etc. Now that it turns out that their whole thing is waking up a computer and 1 YouPorn visit, they're lashing out against JM and Flores to save face.

IMO.

I think it's a 2-pronged attack. The one on Flores- basically accusing him of being the Mark Furhman of this trial by waking the laptop- that I believe was Nurmi & Wilmott's strategy. But the porn attack on Juan, I believe that was all Jodi's idea.

 

[Truth Detector]

But did Sue testify that the 2008 and 2009 images he examined were identical? Did he get a copy from 2009 before the defense altered it and Dworkin got a copy after they had?

Was there a Blue Oyster Cult song about a "Data Scientist Named Sue"?

[With apologies to Shel Silverstein]

 

[bznbear]

From WAT:

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 4s 5 seconds ago


Recap Defense attempted 2 discredit Mesa PD w/regurgitated conversation about waking up sleeping computer that had alleged porn #jodiarias



Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 18s 18 seconds ago

I understand argument of misconduct is important but argument seems weak & I would be concerned that jury wasn't comprehending #jodiarias

I'd like to know why the jury would even be privy to testimony laced with misconduct accusations. I just don't get this whole day and in what possible way the questions/testimony go toward mitigation.

 

[Nali87]

I think it's a 2-pronged attack. The one on Flores- basically accusing him of being the Mark Furhman of this trial by waking the laptop- that I believe was Nurmi & Wilmott's strategy. But the porn attack on Juan, I believe that was all Jodi's idea.

I think they could have said "No". I can't think of any legal reason why KN would be bound to say "Prosecution was more interested in looking at nude pictures of Jodi Arias" even if JA demanded he do that. I doubt he'd get in trouble for telling her: "Hey we don't say that kind of stuff in a court of law. What's the point?".

 

[mydirtysecret]

I'd like to know why the jury would even be privy to testimony laced with misconduct accusations. I just don't get this whole day and in what possible way the questions/testimony go toward mitigation.

Right? Is the jury also going to listen to the judges complete ruling

 

[bznbear]

I would be too freaked out to go against an oath I took like that. If I were sworn on to a final jury I would do exactly what I said I would do- someone elses life is at stake.

I'd be too skeered!

 

[noor]

Thanks AZ, not the answer I was praying for. Not the answer conducive to sleep either, Just Sayin.

I saw a dateline episode not too long ago, and the judge overturned the conviction before the sentencing.
That's what made me think of it, and the way the defense is acting right now, before the actual sentencing, it's like all or nothing.

Then we're at square once again.

 

[Hatfield]

Being nit-picky here.... I thought you said earlier that she wasn't officially convicted until after sentencing. If that's the case then there's not a conviction to overturn until after sentencing is there?

I continue to worry until we see JA being escorted off to prison.

Which is why I think there needed to be a better line drawn in the sand as to what the DT should be allowed to bring up with witness testimony. A lot of this testimony sure seems to me to be appeal of verdict type things and I continue to get confused why it is allowed to be brought up during this phase of trial.

I feel like half the time we are watching an appeal of verdict trial.

 

[iluvmua]

How long is this trial supposed to last?

 

[Truth Detector]

I'd like to know why the jury would even be privy to testimony laced with misconduct accusations. I just don't get this whole day and in what possible way the questions/testimony go toward mitigation.

I asked AZLawyer the same thing.

She agreed with JSKS that it should be before the jury, I think, due to the remote possibility that something mitigating could have been deleted from TA's computer.

 

[katydid23]

I saw a dateline episode not too long ago, and the judge overturned the conviction before the sentencing.
That's what made me think of it, and the way the defense is acting right now, before the actual sentencing, it's like all or nothing.

Then we're at square once again.

This happened recently in the Phylicia Barnes murder case in Baltimore. The was convicted and awaiting sentencing. Then his DT made a motion for Prosecutorial Misconduct, which teh judge agreed with, and the Guilty Verdict was overturned. The Misconduct involved the star State witness, who evidently made a 'deal' with the state for a possible reduction in sentencing, and the jury was not told about this possible deal.

ETA{ I guess he was not technically 'convicted' because he was not sentenced yet. But he was found GUILTY initially.

 

[Katharine]

Jury question for detective Flores...

"Since you're a detective, can you help us find Geffner and John Smith. they've all disappeared without a trace before Juan can get a hold of them. "

So funny, good one, Nash................:floorlaugh:

 

[Niner]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer · 39s39 seconds ago
Judge Stephens will not allow Willmott to ask Flores about Martinez remarks. Irrelevant, too prejudicial. Motion to disqualify MCAO denied

Missing from tweets... via BK, def. can't bring up porn, mistrial motion over this denied.

Defense takes another big hit.

My question on the above quotes - what is MCAO ?? does it mean "Defense can't bring up porn" - or are these two items "way different" things? TIA! for anyone answering this !!

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 57s58 seconds ago
Transcripts will be released tomorrow #jodiarias

NOT holding my breath...

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
Juan yells that defense was modifying evidence on June 19th #jodiarias #3tvarias Juan is fired up and we have a sidebar

:juanettes: :juanettes: :juanettes:

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 43 sec.43 seconden geleden
#jodiarias Det. Flores says "there is no child pornography" on Travis Alexander's computer.

So - the Defense did NOT object to this answer - correct??

Hmmm now I want to know what question was!

AZLawyer said earlier that we will have ALL the jurors' questions known AFTER the verdict... I know, quite awhile from now...

THANKS! to all who posted the tweets and the great commentary here!

:seeya:

 

[Buttercup117]

Did Sherry forget the jury was there while JW was spewing garbage at EF? Competency hearing for a judge ever happen before?

This entire trial has run amok and off the rails. Give Jodi the needle she deserves and the family closure. JMPO=Just my personal opinon.

 

[Amster]

I still have no idea why the jury is hearing about JM possible misconduct.....does Sherry want them to decide? She had the COA decide the secret Jodi issue for her.....

 

[salberg7]

So, the sentencing phase of this "trial" is going to be as long or even longer than the guilt phase? Geez louise.
I am thinking JSS did tell the attorneys she was not going to take the DP off the table this morning during the first sidebar. If she was going to do that, she would have dismissed the jury.
Will prosecutorial misconduct also be put to sleep (pun intended) after Wednesday's "Sue's" testimony? I am a wee bit confused.

 

[Nali87]

This happened recently in the Phylicia Barnes murder case in Baltimore. The was convicted and awaiting sentencing. Then his DT made a motion for Prosecutorial Misconduct, which teh judge agreed with, and the Guilty Verdict was overturned. The Misconduct involved the star State witness, who evidently made a 'deal' with the state for a possible reduction in sentencing, and the jury was not told about this possible deal.

I think AZL said you're convicted only after sentencing. Before that happens your verdict can be overturned, after sentencing your conviction can be overturned.

 

[Truth Detector]

My question on the above quotes - what is MCAO ?? does it mean "Defense can't bring up porn" - or are these two items "way different" things? TIA! for anyone answering this !!




NOT holding my breath...




:juanettes: :juanettes: :juanettes:



So - the Defense did NOT object to this answer - correct??



AZLawyer said earlier that we will have ALL the jurors' questions know AFTER the verdict... I know, quite awhile from now...

THANKS! to all who posted the tweets and the great commentary here!

:seeya:

I believe MCAO = Maricopa County Attorneys Office.