Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 26, Part 2

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  • #221
I posted the questions/answers in the Media/Timeline thread (instead of the "interrogation" Transcripts thread). Please note I only came up with 30 questions and a few questions I didn't see any Geffner answers. If anyone can help out and find something I may have missed, let me know and I'll try to edit (or ask a mod if I'm timed out with being able to edit changes). Thanks
 
  • #222
I just re-read all of the questions. I take them in a different way than others I guess. I don't see concern for any of them. None. I think a few wanted him to give a straight answer and he wasn't doing that.
 
  • #223
While I love that the jury can ask questions, all trial watchers can do is guess just what they might be thinking. One person's interpretation could be way different than another, all we can do is infer and speculate (which I love, sparks some fantastic interaction and questions) As a whole I think the jurors asked some great questions, who knows when they were put in the basket or what he/she might be thinking when they write them down. I think it is pretty clear that the jury does seem to get that CMJA is a LIAR.

We also can't know if the smart ones are submitted by one "juror" and the dumb ones by a variety of the panel.

I Will NOT sleep tonight.
 
  • #224
That's exactly how I read it from the tweets. Like, why would she keep going back to someone who abuses her? If Travis had any semblance of control over her, I'd get it, but he didn't. There was no cycle of abuse. So why would she go back?

If the question about her being strong but then going back is in the same question as that one then I am torn though lol. Because that one worried me.

I think it just shows that Jodi was not weak and was determined to get back to Mesa on Jun4. She has been found guilty of 1st degree murder.
 
  • #225
I remember that question, but i didnt take it to be necessarily favorable to the defense. Starting it that way seemed like a way to say " don't bother explaining that part again, just explain why this part happened..." jmo

Right. Starting that question like that sounds like when Juan is like "I undertsand you want to tell me so and so..."

It's like saying, I know what you're going to say when I ask this, but it's not the answer I'm looking for.
 
  • #226
and "How is she choosing to continue contact considering the emotional abuse?"

Sounds to me like we have a woman on the jury who has been physically abused and doesn't understand why Jodi would go back to Mesa even after she moved away.

MOO

Possible. For me it's common sense. Victims of DV--whether physical or emotional--generally don't leave the relationship b/c they literally can't. It can be due to financial limitations, kids are involved, or b/c they've become isolated from friends and family. NONE OF THAT APPLEIS HERE. She was free to leave anytime she wanted, and she did. A true victim would have never gone back.

IMO
 
  • #227
That's exactly how I read it from the tweets. Like, why would she keep going back to someone who abuses her? If Travis had any semblance of control over her, I'd get it, but he didn't. There was no cycle of abuse. So why would she go back?

If the question about her being strong but then going back is in the same question as that one then I am torn though lol. Because that one worried me.

No. They were separate questions.
 
  • #228
Trust me, the DT will never get it xrayed. It would almost certainly show there is no break in that finger and they couldn't present it as an incidence of DV anymore. We may not know until autopsy.

Awww, you just brightened my day! Thanks!
 
  • #229
I think it just shows that Jodi was not weak and was determined to get back to Mesa on Jun4. She has been found guilty of 1st degree murder.

Ah, yes that actually makes sense.
 
  • #230
Paul Sander, juror in the Devault trial who is covering this trial now, was asked the other day if some might be feeling sympathy for her. He said yes BUT... That's normal. It's usual for a jury to go into deliberations with a split, often a large split. You talk and you reason and usually you make your way toward a common ground for the most part. His jury was split on both guilt and life vs death but they got there.

IMO it's hard to really change someone's mind once they're made up. If one guy is feeling sympathy for her I think it will be didficult for him to give her death, even if they convince him she lied about some things. He may rationalize other things. But that's not the worst thing. She has already gotten a life sentence, no matter if she gets life or death. She's not going anywhere.

Tomorrow's another day though. You never know.

I tend to agree and the sentencing phase of a DP case is where I worry the most.

Because when potential jurors are first asked if they can give out a DP sentence, I feel that SOME people just make an honest mistake about it.

I dont think people intentionally lie. I think they honestly feel they can do it but when the reality sinks in during the trial proceedings I think some people have a change of heart as they become honest with themselves.

See before the trial starts, they firmly and honestly think they can do it if the defendant deserves it. But once the trial proceeds and things get personal I think some people just struggle with that type of verdict and they begin to have a lot of inner turmoil within themselves.

Hardly any one of them has ever had to deal with something so important and when they originally thought they can do it, I think some find out that they really can't. And I worry that there will be a small number that fall into this situation and they will use any insignificant excuse to validate why they cannot give the verdict of the DP.

It doesnt happen all the time since many have been given the DP. I do think it does happen like this in some cases and this is the sort of thing that worries me the most. That they all would basically agree that she deserves the DP but 1 or 2 wont be able to give out the death sentence when it comes to signing on the dotted line. And at the beginning of the trial, they thought they could.

All JMO of course.
 
  • #231
I liked the question about whether the killer is right or left handed. I think a juror has deduced that the broken finger incident is a lie, based on the unchanged writing patterns in her journals before and after said incident. We all know that finger was damaged on June 4, 2008 when she killed Travis.

Is there a photo of CMJA holding a pen/pencil while writing? I'm left handed and I only hold the pen/pencil with my thumb and first two fingers. The ring and pinky finger are bent down and touching the pad under the bottom of my thumb (this is so hard to explain! lol), or just bent (like her finger) lying on the page I'm writing on.

Obviously it would be extremely painful if it were broken. Just wondering how she usually holds her writing instruments.
 
  • #232
How DOES Matt M feel about Jodi now? What did Juan mean about that?
 
  • #233
I think it will help when DeMarte is able to emphasize that the bad IM's etc. took place on a couple instances and it wasn't consistent throughout the relationship. As long as it took to get through all those messages it seemed like it was numerous occasions IMO.

I think she'll make an impact on this jury as in well educated, and so far has a very promising career in being an expert witness with integrity.....then you have Bob. An older man that has a few issues of integrity,and believes what Jodi says is the truth.
 
  • #234
I love how a couple of jury questions were my questions. How accurate are the PTSD scores since she was incarcerated at the time of testing?
 
  • #235
If I were a juror my question to Dr G would be: Why should I believe what you say now that Jodi would have added DV to her journals if she had done some rewrites after the murder, when last week you said numerous times that she would not write about negative things?
 
  • #236
Exactly. The defense wants you to believe that just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. They want you to investigate and dig and "go behind the words" as Juan would say. But most normal experts and normal people would want corroborative proof before stating something as fact. Geffner can say all he want that there was evidence of Travis masturbating because of one questionable thing he said on a phone call, because of what Jodi said, because of what McGee said. But that's not logical. He says McGee told him Travis said he was molested so he accepted that it meant Travis must have been a pedophile. That's an illogical leap. McGee has credibility issues. Why would he expect anyone to accept his conclusion.

I'm rambling right now. But I know what you mean.

Ramble on, McDuff...errr...MeeBee. lol I agree with you, Geff 'confirming' that Travis was molested or a pedo or any other thing JA or MMc-Wit#1 came up with is ridiculous, he confirmed they said it, not that it was actually true. I have faith based on many of the questions that the jury also realizes that.
 
  • #237
And how obvious to the jury that she is now changing attire to fit the court days. Just the other day she comes in with loose fitting T-shirt and tries to look sexy to jury and now all of a sudden she has on her power suit.

Her inconsistency in attire and behavior in the courtroom is just another form of attempted manipulation. The thing is though....she telegraphs it to the jury.

If she would have had good advice she should have stayed consistent throughout the trial with proper attire and manners.

The DT can not stop her. She is a predator. She has never had anything except her outward appearance.

Travis was in tow just long enough for him to figure her out. By the time he challenged her, he was graveyard D.E.A.D.!
 
  • #238
Yes some of them were really, obviosuly, good for the state while the ones that could be read as good for the defense were waffling. Some of them seemed to have very strong opinions and I loved that. I'm not a praying woman but I PRAY that one makes it on the jury. Also whoever asked "how do you even know Travis verbally abused her?" Lol how do you really feel? They sound firm and knowledgable and their questions were based in fact. I like it.

If that one juror goes back , the one who asked if Geffner saw DV, and says well he says he saw it, I hope the other jurors say WHERE??? Common sense.
 
  • #239
How DOES Matt M feel about Jodi now? What did Juan mean about that?

I think he means to point out to the jury that Matt M was her ex, and still liked her a lot, so if he says he 'saw bruises', take it with a huge grain of salt.
 
  • #240
I think she'll make an impact on this jury as in well educated, and so far has a very promising career in being an expert witness with integrity.....then you have Bob. An older man that has a few issues of integrity,and believes what Jodi says is the truth.

I don't think the DT laid a finger on DeMarte, though it certainly wasn't for lack of effort.
 
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