Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 5

[krkrjx]

I honestly never paid that much attention to the sex tape when it was played in court. I felt I was invading Travis' privacy and it made me uncomfortable knowing he had no say so.

What I did hear wasn't all that shocking. In fact some of it was boring and I think even Travis was bored because he couldn't even stay awake.

But Arias was chatty as a canary and wide awake egging it on.

Exactly my take on it, too. I never understood why anyone thought the sex tape was so imporant and why it is being played again. Or for that matter, during the guilt phase (and even after) when NG and JVM ran out of material they played the sex tape over and over...parts of it, that is, given it was on air.

They were a couple engaged in sexual behavior, apparently including phone sex. It is no big deal. It is something many couples do. When people do this kind of thing, they say things but it's play-acting, basically. They say what they know the other party wants to hear because that is the turn-on.

This was two people on the phone who knew each other and had probably had phone sex many, many times before. (Not usually taped without the other party's consent, but that is for a different post.) In that context there is nothing in the conversation that I would not expect to hear--it sounds to me to be their preferred dialogue for phone sex and as such is not shocking in the least.

My God I wish Nurmi would move past this because the only reason he insists on dwelling is because he is still trying so hard to sully the victim. The jury will see that, I believe. But still, why not just get on with whatever mitigation they have and let Travis rest in peace for crying out loud!

All JMO.

 

[bsk]

It was part of JA's scheming....talking baby talk on the sex tape :furious:

Look on the bright side. If JA wasn't so cocky, figuring she already had the perfect crime planned out, she might have planted on his computer and pictures in his room after slaughtering him.

 

[MeeBee]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan-When Travis mentioned the 12 yr old girl was #jodiarias horrified or disgusted? Flores..NO, she said she liked it #3tvarias

 

[Hope4More]

Amen to allowing Travis to rest in peace.

 

[MeeBee]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan-What is not being temple worthy? Flores-You felt you sinned and can't go in temple.. is short version #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[bsk]

Exactly my take on it, too. I never understood why anyone thought the sex tape was so imporant and why it is being played again. Or for that matter, during the guilt phase (and even after) when NG and JVM ran out of material they played the sex tape over and over...parts of it, that is, given it was on air.

They were a couple engaged in sexual behavior, apparently including phone sex. It is no big deal. It is something many couples do. When people do this kind of thing, they say things but it's play-acting, basically. They say what they know the other party wants to hear because that is the turn-on.

This was two people on the phone who knew each other and had probably had phone sex many, many times before. (Not usually taped without the other party's consent, but that is for a different post.) In that context there is nothing in the conversation that I would not expect to hear--it sounds to me to be their preferred dialogue for phone sex and as such is not shocking in the least.

My God I wish Nurmi would move past this because the only reason he insists on dwelling is because he is still trying so hard to sully the victim. The jury will see that, I believe. But still, why not just get on with whatever mitigation they have and let Travis rest in peace for crying out loud!

All JMO.

As some others have noted, the average age of the jury is fairly young. So most of them will see it as no big deal and wonder what it has to do with butchering a guy.

 

[MeeBee]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan- So Travis could wear his temple garments till the day he died correct? Flores- Correct #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[Nali87]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan-What is not being temple worthy? Flores-You felt you sinned and can't go in temple.. is short version #jodiarias #3tvarias

He who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmph.

 

[Hope4More]

BRB. Just received Amber alert...

 

[Madeleine74]

And the DT doesn't have to explain how? Really?!

A defendant never has to explain evidence. The burden is 100% on the state in a trial. They can literally sit there if they so desire and not say a word. Burden is the state's.

 

[MeeBee]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan-Does not following the laws of chastity mean Travis deserved to have his throat slit ear to ear? Flores- NO #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[MeeBee]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan- Did #Jodiarias ever say she loved Travis on the phone call? Flores..NO #3tvarias

 

[bsk]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan-When Travis mentioned the 12 yr old girl was #jodiarias horrified or disgusted? Flores..NO, she said she liked it #3tvarias

And of course she could have set him up for that before the call. "It would turn me on if you pretended I was a kid, so let's try that some time."

 

[MeeBee]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan displays full naked photo of #jodiarias and asks if anyone can tell what Jodi or Travis were thinking? Flores..NO #3tvarias

 

[Nosey Parker]

My stress barometer has dropped now that Juan is up

 

[MeeBee]

@TrialDiariesJ: Does anyone know what #jodiarias was thinking when she got the gas cans..Flores..that she was going to kill him #3tvarias Objection

 

[Madeleine74]

I wish I could watch Juan's part of this trial where he is asking the questions. Not the entire trial, and not the defense. Just Juan.

 

[grammieto5]

I hope this jury just keeps telling themselves the "tape speaks for itself", and remembers the real victim is Travis Alexander.

 

[Nali87]

And of course she could have set him up for that before the call. "It would turn me on if you pretended I was a kid, so let's try that some time."

Teen, or schoolgirl sex fantasy would fit in with the pigtails.
It was a weird statement. But I honestly think he was making it up as he went along and said something horribly awkward and weird.

 

[MeeBee]

@TrialDiariesJ: Juan- in your opinion is #jodiarias mentally ill? Objection. Sustained #3tvarias