Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered #2

[CARIIS]

That is why the departure time was altered to meet the authorization!

 

[CARIIS]

Neither did I but I am glad they were willing to help. Thanks for all your updates everyone they have been very informative.

Off topic - I am a bit better today still in hospital but I'm not in so much pain. Thanks again for all your best wishes and hope you all have a nice weekend.

If I may, what are they are trying to repair in the hospital?

 

[CARIIS]

Tid bits

#AirAsia #QZ8101: Search teams could not take pictures of objects underwater due to undercurrent as strong as 2 knots

#AirAsia #QZ8501: Waves as high as 5m hamper search today, but search teams place high hope as tides forecast between 1.5m and 2m tomorrow


That is why the departure time was altered to meet the authorization! And to all of us needing to apply for routes now is foereign. But before the the dereg act of 78 (posted ealier) it was the same here - every single route had to be "awarded" byt the CAB

#AirAsia #QZ8501: 4 major parts of plane spotted as Indonesia probes AirAsia flight routes http://bit.ly/1An3DBF

#AirAsia #QZ8501: Orange bag, board measuring 112cm by 75cm among debris found on Saturday; Bodies recovered remain unchanged at 30

The U.S. embassy in Indonesia issued a security alert on Saturday for its citizens in the country's second biggest city Surabaya. "The U.S. Embassy has been made aware of a potential threat against U.S.-associated hotels and banks in Surabaya, Indonesia," the embassy said in a statement on its website.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/03/us-indonesia-usa-security-idUSKBN0KC08M20150103

 

[CarmelEyesD]

http://abcnews.go.com/International...ers-find-large-pieces-plane/story?id=27955975


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AirAsia Flight 8501: Searchers Find 4 Large Pieces of Jet Plane
Jan 3, 2015, 8:51 AM ET
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Ships with sensitive sonar equipment found four large sections of AirAsia Flight 8501, Indonesian officials said Saturday.

The objects were found close together at 30 meters in the Java Sea in the sixth day of the operation. Officials told reporters that sonar located the plane parts, which are about 7.2 x 0.5 meters and 9.4 x 4.8 x 0.4 meters long. Weather conditions have stalled an effort to recover the objects.

At least 30 bodies of victims have been recovered, authorities said earlier.

Five of the victims were found still strapped in their seats, Indonesian navy official Col. Yayan Sofiyan said.

 

[Bravo]

If only the weather would clear enough for recovery of these finds!!!!

 

[Bravo]

Presently 15 foot waves. A window of time Monday. Sunshine and lighter winds. Per CNN Meteorologist

 

[Elley Mae]

Report: AirAsia did not have permission to fly doomed route

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/03/report-airasia-did-not-have-permission-to-fly-doomed-route/

AirAsia didn’t have permission to fly from Surabaya to Singapore on the Sunday morning that Flight 8501 crashed into the Java Sea, Indonesian officials said Saturday.

AirAsia used to have permission to fly the route daily, but the number of slots was cut for the period Oct. 26 to March 28 because the country was nearing its quota for flying people to Singapore, said Indonesia’s acting director general of aviation Djoko Murjatmodjo.

 

[Tssiemer]

Odd. I hope they are still insured though.


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[Dr. Know?]

Asia Pacific

Search for AirAsia QZ8501: Men on the frontline

Channel NewsAsia spoke to two members of Indonesia's national search and recovery agency, BASARNAS, who have been rappelling from helicopters amid high winds and choppy seas to retrieve bodies from the doomed AirAsia jet QZ5801.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/search-for-airasia-qz8501/1566220.html

(there's a video of a rescue attempt also)

 

[Dr. Know?]

Here's an article about the pilots not checking the weather before departure. Translated.

Apparently, AirAsia Not Retrieve Data Weather Before Aircraft QZ8501 "Take Off"

JAKARTA, KOMPAS.com - The Ministry of Transport (MoT) get quite astonishing new facts before QZ8501 AirAsia plane lost contact. Apparently, AirAsia does not take weather data from the Bureau of Meteorology, Climatology and Geophysics (BMKG) before the plane was flying.

"Based on the report to the Minister of Transport Head of BMKG (Ignatius Jonan) that does not take AirAsia weather data (from BMKG in Sidoarjo) before flying," said the Special Staff of the Minister of Transportation Hadi M Djuraid during a press conference in Jakarta, Friday (1/2/2014 ).

Furthermore, he explained, the new AirAsia taking weather data BMKG 07.00 after QZ8501 plane was officially declared missing at 7:55. The aircraft departed from Juanda Airport at 05:36. (Read: This chronology Aircraft Loss AirAsia QZ8501)

According to Hadi, no weather data taken before the aircraft by AirAsia will be investigated by the Ministry of Transportation policy.

more from original article

http://nasional.kompas.com/read/201...il.Data.Cuaca.Sebelum.Pesawat.QZ8501.Take.Off.

https://translate.google.com/

 

[MsFacetious]

So does that mean that AirAsia routinely does not check the weather before take off?
Or does that mean that this specific flight and very experienced pilot failed to do so this one time?
The translations doesn't quite make it clear.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I find it hard to believe they didn't check the weather. jmo It might just mean they didn't check the weather with Indonisia's standard weather information source before flying and used another source?

Experts weigh in.

 

[MsFacetious]

I think this pilot knew too much to be that negligent. :twocents:
I could believe they got outdated weather and didn't realize it.

 

[Elley Mae]

Still in recovery mode and the blame game has begun.

 

[jggordo]

A little O/T but has anyone seen the report of the 7 year old girl only survivor of plane crash in western Kentucky? There really are miracles. Reported on CNN just now. Walked through amazing area to a house from the crash site that killed the rest of her family.

JMO

http://news.yahoo.com/-brave-little...rain-at-night-looking-for-help-161744849.html

 

[MsFacetious]

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/live-blog-airasia-flight/1565048.html

 

[SouthAussie]

Well, that answers the autopsy questions ....


Mindful of the cultural and religious beliefs in Indonesia, investigators said they would do what they could to accommodate the wishes of the families.

Budiyono, Head of East Java Disaster Victim Identification, said: "For the purpose of the investigation, we agreed and it has been accepted by INTERPOL that local culture be accommodated. At the very least, the pilot, co-pilot and samples of the passengers will undergo autopsies."

Mrs Tan and many families in Surabaya said they would not approve autopsies of their loved ones .....

It was a sentiment shared by Annie, sister of Hendra Theodorus. "We won't agree to an autopsy," she said. "We want to receive the body as it is."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/qz8501-investigators-keen/1566028.html?cid=twtcna

 

[Tssiemer]

I'm ok with this.


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[SouthAussie]

Search for AirAsia QZ8501: Men on the frontline

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...arch-for-airasia-qz8501/1566220.html#cxrecs_s


Search for missing AirAsia plane aided by elite team from Basarnas

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/specialreports/qz8501/news/search-for-missing/1565946.html


“Sorry for this incident,” he said. “We do not know what will happen next, but please be patient."

“I am sorry that I failed to bring her back to the shore, but I have tried my best.”

 

[MsFacetious]

I am not okay with this.
There are a dozen reasons why autopsies on every passenger is crucial.
We will never have complete answers in this case because they are not doing them. :twocents: