Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered #2

[newone]

I bet in every wardroom on the ships (Korea, China, Japan, US & India just some) they must be smacking their heads and the guys must be howling. MOO

 

[newone]

They really don't want resolution to this matter at all -- blatantly foot dragging and sabotaging efforts MOO

 

[emirates1957]

In need of a drink......((wine cellar empty here - dang))

Oooh plenty at my house, ones' too many and 17's not enough. Pop on over.

 

[emirates1957]

Who made that Airbus ... France? Time to step in, France, and tell/plead/beg these .. ahem .. people .. tell them that the tail and its contents may not withstand a 15 hour tow-job in those 'strong currents', in those 'big waves' .... after the stress they have already been through.

I picture a young child dragging a toy plane around with a piece of string on the ground or in a pond, and ... whoops ... the string breaks, or the plane breaks apart, things fall off/out.

Ooooh don't go there. Check out Air France Airbus maiden flight in 1988 (in an attempt to sell it to the world). They were flying at 40ft instead of 100ft and went straight into a small forrest.

 

[newone]

''"It's currently being brought close to a ship and then it will be towed. And then they want to search for the black box."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-...es-tail-lifted-to-surface-of-java-sea/6010530

bbm: I am ''hoping'' that MSM reporter omitted the word ''barge'' that would be towing the tail.

''The tail was hoisted from a depth of about 30 metres using inflatable bags that were attached to the rear of the aircraft and a crane to lift it onto a rescue ship.''

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/01/10/00/12/airasia-black-box-pings-detected#6CuDMvGBu7tLTXhB.99

 

[Snoods]

Who made that Airbus ... France? Time to step in, France, and tell/plead/beg these .. ahem .. people .. tell them that the tail and its contents may not withstand a 15 hour tow-job in those 'strong currents', in those 'big waves' .... after the stress they have already been through.

I picture a young child dragging a toy plane around with a piece of string on the ground or in a pond, and ... whoops ... the string breaks, or the plane breaks apart, things fall off/out.

Or a young child dragging a toy plane around in the middle of a volatile ocean!

 

[SouthAussie]

So the length is 37.57m .. and the recovered tail piece is around 10m. That is around 1/4 of the plane. Hopefully no passengers are in that section.

Overall length 37.57 m

Wing span 35.80 m with Sharklets

http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a320family/a320/specifications/

 

[SouthAussie]

''"It's currently being brought close to a ship and then it will be towed. And then they want to search for the black box."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-...es-tail-lifted-to-surface-of-java-sea/6010530

bbm: I am ''hoping'' that MSM reporter omitted the word ''barge'' that would be towing the tail.

I 'hope' so too. I have a feeling that it was tied off to the Banda Aceh with that rope. Earlier pics seemed to show the divers climbing down to their dinghies from the Banda Aceh.

Indonesian navy divers prepare operations to lift the tail of AirAsia flight QZ8501 from the Java Sea.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ne-lifted-to-surface/articleshow/45833254.cms

 

[Snoods]

So the length is 37.57m .. and the recovered tail piece is around 10m. That is around 1/4 of the plane. Hopefully no passengers are in that section.

Overall length 37.57 m

Wing span 35.80 m with Sharklets

http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a320family/a320/specifications/

Wait a sec, could there possibly be people in the section they're planning to tow? They wouldn't tow it with people still in it...would they?

 

[SouthAussie]

Wait a sec, could there possibly be people in the section they're planning to tow? They wouldn't tow it with people still in it...would they?

Evidently, anything remotely ridiculous is possible at this point.

 

[newone]

here's a video from sky news -- looks like the tail is ''perched'' as they are pulling it onto the stern of the vessel.

http://news.google.co.in/news/secti...U=&siidp=8299882d83d5f46c02471acfde4113c95f37

click on the first video:
AirAsia Flight QZ8501 Tail Pulled From Water - Sky News

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Who made that Airbus ... France? Time to step in, France, and tell/plead/beg these .. ahem .. people .. tell them that the tail and its contents may not withstand a 15 hour tow-job in those 'strong currents', in those 'big waves' .... after the stress they have already been through.

I picture a young child dragging a toy plane around with a piece of string on the ground or in a pond, and ... whoops ... the string breaks, or the plane breaks apart, things fall off/out.

France has a lot on their plate right now (My heart goes out to the French as they cope with their loss).

How about we get someone with common sense to call them...like Snoods? Snoods...I can get you their phone number or you can just contact the medicine men.

 

[Snoods]

France has a lot on their plate right now (My heart goes out to the French as they cope with their loss).

How about we get someone with common sense to call them...like Snoods? Snoods...I can get you their phone number or you can just contact the medicine men.

Common sense and Snoods in the same sentence! I'll be referring peeps to this post often...

They already took me up on my "towing" suggestion so my mouth is shut from this point on! :silenced:

 

[SouthAussie]

here's a video from sky news -- looks like the tail is ''perched'' as they are pulling it onto the stern of the vessel.

http://news.google.co.in/news/secti...U=&siidp=8299882d83d5f46c02471acfde4113c95f37

click on the first video:
AirAsia Flight QZ8501 Tail Pulled From Water - Sky News

Oh no ... look at it flapping around and pulling open/apart as they pull it up. OMG. ullhair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn9A0jDrr08

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Common sense and Snoods in the same sentence! I'll be referring peeps to this post often...

They already took me up on my "towing" suggestion so my mouth is shut from this point on! :silenced:

That would be post #892 for future reference.

Towing suggestion, eh? *Hiding Snoods from the medicine men*

 

[newone]

Wait a sec, could there possibly be people in the section they're planning to tow? They wouldn't tow it with people still in it...would they?

hope this helps:
apparently they checked first (whew)

"“Last night, our divers had opened the door of the tail cabin, searched around but found nothing,” an official from Indonesia’s seach and rescue agency said."

http://www.indileak.com/airasia-crash-planes-tail-lifted/

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Oh no ... look at it flapping around and pulling open/apart as they pull it up. OMG. ullhair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn9A0jDrr08

Ack! It looks like it could lose whatever is in that section and isn't that where the black boxes are actually located...in the bottom of the tail section?!

 

[newone]

Oh no ... look at it flapping around and pulling open/apart as they pull it up. OMG. ullhair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn9A0jDrr08

and it cracked open.....that was attention getting to me --

 

[newone]

Ack! It looks like it could lose whatever is in that section and isn't that where the black boxes are actually located...in the bottom of the tail section?!

yes.....that tail piece is the part where boxes were originally located.....according to one video with pilot commenting on that...however, there is an upthread post (tonight) from KevinTO that says that the other piece of the tail yet to be raised is the actual location.

 

[Snoods]

Oh no ... look at it flapping around and pulling open/apart as they pull it up. OMG. ullhair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn9A0jDrr08

:thud:

That would be post #892 for future reference.

Towing suggestion, eh? *Hiding Snoods from the medicine men*

I tried to tell them I was keeding, but apparently they haven't checked back in here again! But I wouldn't worry, it looks like they have everything completely under control now. :scared: