Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered #2

[SouthAussie]

According to our Engineers the tail fin, horizontal stabilisers are part one piece. Whilst I can only go by their opinion they would consider the black box to still be bolted and in place. Let's hope so.

Yes, I reckon they are probably there too (in my very amateur, know-nothing capacity ). They would be very secure, I would think. The whole point of them is to be there if a plane crashes.


"Pings from the boxes, which were stored securely in the tail, were detected on Friday, raising hopes of quickly retrieving them."

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/as...bed-say-reports-20150110#sthash.2rnQk64h.dpuf

 

[newone]

Yes, I reckon they are probably there too (in my very amateur, know-nothing capacity ). They would be very secure, I would think. The whole point of them is to be there if a plane crashes.


"Pings from the boxes, which were stored securely in the tail, were detected on Friday, raising hopes of quickly retrieving them."

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/as...bed-say-reports-20150110#sthash.2rnQk64h.dpuf

yeah!! more MSM

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/wo...ming-from-airasias-black-boxes-288027581.html

"It was not immediately clear if the cockpit voice and flight data recorders were still inside the tail or have been detached when the Airbus A320 plummeted into the sea Dec. 28. Their recovery is essential to finding out why it crashed.

The tail was hoisted from a depth of about 30 metres (100 feet) using inflatable bags that were attached to the rear of the aircraft and a crane to lift it onto a rescue ship.

Intermittent underwater ping-like sounds were picked up Friday about a kilometre (half mile) from where the tail was located, but it was unclear if they were coming from the recorders located in the back of the aircraft. It was possible the signals were coming from another source."

Give the night crew something to take apart before divers return to their next location in the a.m. --

 

[SouthAussie]

Intermittent underwater ping-like sounds were picked up Friday about a kilometre (half mile) from where the tail was located, but it was unclear if they were coming from the recorders located in the back of the aircraft. It was possible the signals were coming from another source."

RSBM: Yes, remember all the pings from MH370, and none were the black boxes? Then we discovered the multitude of things that ping underwater - fishing net buoys, research equipment, etc - and the different and similar frequencies of the pings.

Give the night crew something to take apart before divers return to their next location in the a.m.

Night crew? :thud:

 

[SouthAussie]

3PM UPDATE: Plane tail of QZ8501 has been lifted from the sea floor, but BARSANAS says more equipment will be needed to complete the operation and bring the tail to the surface. According to CNN, the tail has surfaced above the water.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/plane-tail-of-qz8501/1581054.html

 

[newone]

3PM UPDATE: Plane tail of QZ8501 has been lifted from the sea floor, but BARSANAS says more equipment will be needed to complete the operation and bring the tail to the surface. According to CNN, the tail has surfaced above the water.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/plane-tail-of-qz8501/1581054.html

omg! you have got to be kiddin' -- myopia to a whole new level.....dial-a-tug with a crane? or

freight helicopter???

 

[SouthAussie]

omg! you have got to be kiddin' -- myopia to a whole new level.....dial-a-tug with a crane? or

freight helicopter???

:lol: Now, now .. let's not get too excited. 50% of an operation per day here. Can't rush things. No point in being prepared. Better to just let the tail bob around in the current while you go get the crane and more balloons. :scared:

 

[newone]

time for those brainstormers to regroup and storm some more ...... put on shopping list: barge, tug with crane, freight choppers,......

 

[newone]

:lol: Now, now ... let's not get too excited. 50% of an operation per day here. Can't rush things. No point in being prepared. Better to just let the tail bob around in the current while you go get the crane and more balloons. :scared:

must be a union shop or they are hourly workers.......

 

[SouthAussie]

time for those brainstormers to regroup and storm some more ...... put on shopping list: barge, tug with crane, freight choppers,......

... lights, experience ...

 

[newone]

new article here:

"The tail was hoisted from a depth of about 30 meters (100 feet) using inflatable bags that were attached to the rear of the aircraft and a crane to lift it onto a rescue ship.

Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2015/01/09/4068520/ships-with-ping-locators-join.html#storylink=cpy


I ''suspect'' that one of the visiting naval vessels (either Singapore, Korea or USA) would have a pretty heavy duty crane that the Indonesians could utilize IF they would request.

bbm: seems they have a crane according to this .... perhaps there is a matter of clear deck space .... but there are so many capable vessels available -- they ''could'' ask for help

 

[KEVINinTO]

yeah!! more MSM

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/wo...ming-from-airasias-black-boxes-288027581.html

"It was not immediately clear if the cockpit voice and flight data recorders were still inside the tail or have been detached when the Airbus A320 plummeted into the sea Dec. 28. Their recovery is essential to finding out why it crashed.

The tail was hoisted from a depth of about 30 metres (100 feet) using inflatable bags that were attached to the rear of the aircraft and a crane to lift it onto a rescue ship.

Intermittent underwater ping-like sounds were picked up Friday about a kilometre (half mile) from where the tail was located, but it was unclear if they were coming from the recorders located in the back of the aircraft. It was possible the signals were coming from another source."

Give the night crew something to take apart before divers return to their next location in the a.m. --

What was floated to the surface was the tail-fin or vertical stabilizer. The CVR and FDR are not located in this part of the aircraft. The CVR and FDR are located in the *tail section* (empennage) just aft of the aft galley. This part of the aircraft has been located as seen in this video (divers entering the aft service doors) so I expect that the CVR and FDR should be recovered soon and should be in good condition.

http://www.kinitv.com/video/14462O8

 

[newone]

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2015/01/09/4068520/ships-with-ping-locators-join.html

there is a photo here of numerous life jackets collected.....without the black straps on them

 

[emirates1957]

So grateful to you and your colleagues to help us sort out the details -- it's informative and reassuring!

The Engineers' are fantastic, quite a down to earth bunch and more than happy to answer anything we can throw at them.

 

[SouthAussie]

Emirates, can you please ask them if 10m is a long enough piece of the tail for the black boxes to be there? If you are able to, that is.


Channel NewsAsia's Jackson Board reports that the plane tail is about 10m long, and a decision about whether to bring the tail back to port in one piece of cut it up has yet to be made.

Lead investigator Nurcayho said that once the tail is fully salvaged, it will be checked for the black box then brought by ship to Kumai Port for analysis. However, he thinks it is unlikely the black box is still in the tail.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...z8501/1581054.html?cid=cna_editorspick_070814

 

[CARIIS]

A dynamic looking bunch !!!!

humm humm, where are those things that look a lot computers? actually on a320 they are not right next each other dont want to get to woken up! i will try and find out more after a doozie

my doggie is 23 and old and had a hard time getting up so i woke up and gave her a hand! Most of the time she is like i will take care of this myself !

 

[emirates1957]

Emirates, can you please ask them if 10m is a long enough piece of the tail for the black boxes to be there? If you are able to, that is.


Channel NewsAsia's Jackson Board reports that the plane tail is about 10m long, and a decision about whether to bring the tail back to port in one piece of cut it up has yet to be made.

Lead investigator Nurcayho said that once the tail is fully salvaged, it will be checked for the black box then brought by ship to Kumai Port for analysis. However, he thinks it is unlikely the black box is still in the tail.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...z8501/1581054.html?cid=cna_editorspick_070814

Sure thing…not back at work until Monday. One of our staff members is dating an A320 skipper….will send her a message now, and see if I can get a quicker answer.

 

[Snoods]

omg! you have got to be kiddin' -- myopia to a whole new level.....dial-a-tug with a crane? or

freight helicopter???

:lol: Now, now .. let's not get too excited. 50% of an operation per day here. Can't rush things. No point in being prepared. Better to just let the tail bob around in the current while you go get the crane and more balloons. :scared:

:floorlaugh: Oh my gosh y'all are so funny! "Crane? YOU were supposed to bring the crane!" "Nah, I brought the balloons! YOU were supposed to bring the crane!"

 

[emirates1957]

humm humm, where are those things that look a lot computers? actually on a320 they are not right next each other dont want to get to woken up! i will try and find out more after a doozie

my doggie is 23 and old and had a hard time getting up so i woke up and gave her a hand! Most of the time she is like i will take care of this myself !

That was my very first thought. Maybe they took them to cash convertors and traded them in for braid and bobbles. Sorry I'm being nasty.

 

[emirates1957]

humm humm, where are those things that look a lot computers? actually on a320 they are not right next each other dont want to get to woken up! i will try and find out more after a doozie

my doggie is 23 and old and had a hard time getting up so i woke up and gave her a hand! Most of the time she is like i will take care of this myself !

Talking about doggies….watching Cesar Milan at the moment……the oldest dog I met was 19. WOW 23 what sort is she?

 

[Snoods]

A dynamic looking bunch !!!!

Y'all are making me giggle tonight! :giggle: