Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered #3

[gregjrichards]

[video=twitter;554566512267116545]https://twitter.com/STForeignDesk/status/554566512267116545?lang=en[/video]

I'm pleased to see these photos I keep praying for a miracle that I we will see this scene for flight MH370 as well. Hopefully in my lifetime.

 

[SouthAussie]

The flight data recorder captures 25 hours' worth of information on the position and condition of almost every major part in a plane.

Some of the major items recorded include: altitude, airspeed, what rate the plane is climbing or descending, what direction of the compass it was flying toward, what angle up or down it was pointed, if the plane was leaning to the left or the right, the thrust of the engines, rate at which fuel was flowing to them, pressure in the hydraulic lines and the position of the flaps, rudder and landing gear.


The voice recorder takes audio feeds from four microphones within the cockpit and records all the conversations between the pilots, air traffic controllers as well as any noises heard in the cockpit. That could be alarms going off or loud explosions. It records on a two-hour loop, so investigators here won't just capture the plane's final minutes but the entire 42-minute trip.

http://www.timescolonist.com/news/b...pit-voice-and-flight-data-recorders-1.1728231

 

[MsFacetious]

IF it all works the way it is supposed to. :twocents:

 

[emirates1957]

I've seen a documentary about the Helios flight, that was bizarre.

I've flown a lot throughout my life, at one point as much as several times a week for several years. I'm scared of flying but would torture myself by watching air disaster documentaries, what a loon right?

No not a loon. I feel for people that are required to fly for business purposes and hate flying...I couldn't think of anything worse. Have a look at Reeve Aleutian Airways Flight 8, they overcome a propeller being ripped off, explosive decompression and loss of control. They all walked away. It was on our Foxtel Documentary channel the other day. It was one of the best I have seen.

We show the Helios flight in our Emergency Procedure classes. Helios received a cockpit warning signal at around 12000 ft (they never pressurised the A/C from the onset). At 12000 ft you would still have a useable conscious time of perhaps more than 0030 minutes. The crew thought it was an air conditioning problem. As they start to climb their UCT is diminishing, at 32000 ft they would have had 30-60 seconds to react to a loss of pressure. By the time they got to this point they would have been severely hypoxic if not dead. Unfortunately this was tragedy which resulted in Pilot error.

 

[emirates1957]

Have just spoken to the Engineers regarding the APU, this has to be manually activated. There are altitude restrictions., therefore the APU will work at 10,000 ft, not at 32,000 ft. Also as the plane we are assuming is still pressurized as it comes closer to sea level there will be infact less pressure on impact.

 

[Boodles]

	Jackson Board (@JackBoard)

[TD="colspan: 2"] 1/12/15, 7:44 PM #QZ8501 search crews trying to lift cockpit voice recorder from under plane wing using lifting balloons. Weather good pic.twitter.com/OBZuL1PjqV [/TD]

Been following this reporter, he seems to be real time with events.

 

[Boodles]

Just read this Jeff Wise article about Air France crash. Chilling...and I wonder if QZ8501's circumstances will be similar.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tec...really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877

 

[MsFacetious]

No not a loon. I feel for people that are required to fly for business purposes and hate flying...I couldn't think of anything worse. Have a look at Reeve Aleutian Airways Flight 8, they overcome a propeller being ripped off, explosive decompression and loss of control. They all walked away. It was on our Foxtel Documentary channel the other day. It was one of the best I have seen.

We show the Helios flight in our Emergency Procedure classes. Helios received a cockpit warning signal at around 12000 ft (they never pressurised the A/C from the onset). At 12000 ft you would still have a useable conscious time of perhaps more than 0030 minutes. The crew thought it was an air conditioning problem. As they start to climb their UCT is diminishing, at 32000 ft they would have had 30-60 seconds to react to a loss of pressure. By the time they got to this point they would have been severely hypoxic if not dead. Unfortunately this was tragedy which resulted in Pilot error.

The creepiest part of Helios was that so many were alive until impact. :twocents:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8944885/n...t-may-have-had-earlier-problems/#.VLRxaXs6-M8

 

[jggordo]

JAKARTA (Reuters) - "Divers retrieved the cockpit voice recorder from the wreck of an AirAsia passenger jet on Tuesday, MetroTV said quoting a transport official, a key piece of evidence for investigators to determine the cause of the crash that killed 162 people."

"The cockpit voice recorder, which records conversations between the pilots and with air traffic controllers, was found close to where the flight data recorder was recovered from the bottom of the Java Sea on Monday, the report said."



http://news.yahoo.com/divers-retrie...r-crashed-airasia-jet-012421439--finance.html

 

[Boodles]

Voice data recorder retrieved! Yay progress! Per CNN and channel news Asia.
http://cna.asia/qz8501blackbox

 

[newone]

JAKARTA (Reuters) - "Divers retrieved the cockpit voice recorder from the wreck of an AirAsia passenger jet on Tuesday, MetroTV said quoting a transport official, a key piece of evidence for investigators to determine the cause of the crash that killed 162 people."

"The cockpit voice recorder, which records conversations between the pilots and with air traffic controllers, was found close to where the flight data recorder was recovered from the bottom of the Java Sea on Monday, the report said."



http://news.yahoo.com/divers-retrie...r-crashed-airasia-jet-012421439--finance.html

yes!!! thank you & Boodles for the great news

:fireworks:

 

[gregjrichards]

"THE cockpit voice recorder from the downed AirAsia Flight QZ8501 has been recovered from the bottom of the Java Sea, Indonesian officials say.

Divers located the crucial second black box yesterday, just hours after retrieving the other black box - the flight recorder - from the ocean floor.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...trieve-black-box/story-fnizu68q-1227181628534

Today, they have pulled the voice recorder from its sunken resting place among the lagan. Investigators hope it will reveal the final words of the crew and help them determine what went wrong on board the doomed flight."


Further confirmation - great news now we wait for the results. Hope the families get answers to their questions about what happened. Thanks for all your updates everyone as always.

 

[SouthAussie]

Fantastic news!!!! :skip:

Let's find out what happened to this plane!

Now for the fuselage. They have got to find that and bring it up. I have read that they know where it is. Then I have read 'no, that's not it'.
They know where the wings are, they know where the tail was, I think they know where the nose is. Surely it can't be too difficult to pinpoint the rest now.

 

[SouthAussie]

Just wanted to post this pic ... they have finally covered up the tail and fenced it off.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...trieve-black-box/story-fnizu68q-1227181628534

 

[newone]

today two more bodies were identified

Elizabeth Youvita age 20 seat 4B
David Gunawan age 37 seat 10D

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/live-blog-retrieving-the/1583898.html?cid=TWTCNA


from previous thread

Kevin seat 6 B
Hayati seat 23 B
Tony Linaksita 21F
Shiane Josal 27A
Lim Yan Koen 26C
Jonki Jou 3C
Grayson Linaksita 21C
Kathleen Linaksita 21
Meiji Thejakusuma 10E
Jie Stevie Gunawan 9E
Juanita Limantara 26 B
Wismoyo Ari Prambudi -- cannot find seat
Nick Giovani 11A
Justin Giovani 25F
Liangshi, Indajhu 25E
Lanus, Hermanto 25D
Park Seongbeom 4F (father w/infant still missing)
Lee Kyung Hwa 3F

updated known & identified

manifest and seating link

http://www.dephub.go.id/public/0506_... AWQ8501.pdf

 

[newone]

Basaranas chief's comments that the flight exploded are being pooh poohed by two aviation experts. That man is not having good days lately.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/airasia-explosion-theory-not-true-20150113-12n6ef.html

"But Mr Kurniadi said Mr Supriyadi had "simply jumped to conclusions".

"It is just his guess. There is too much speculation. I already spoke with him and said let us do our own jobs. Basarnas' job is to find and evacuate victims while ours is to find out the cause of the incident".

 

[newone]

"However Mr Kurniadi told Fairfax Media the investigation and analysis was expected to take up to 12 months.

He said he thought the flight data recorder was in good condition.

"But even if the physical condition is poor the memory is normally good because the black box is designed in such a way that it survives very bad conditions," he said

http://www.smh.com.au/world/airasia-explosion-theory-not-true-20150113-12n6ef.html

(head of Indonesia's national transportation safety committee, Tatang Kuniadi)

 

[emirates1957]

A pressurised fuselage is a little like a blown up balloon prick it and will go bang. As the A/C is descending rapidly the pressure of the A/C is equalising …. so compare this to a balloon that has a little bit of air in it. If you prick it ain't going bang.

 

[Isabelle]

CNN reporting the fuselage has been found.

 

[newone]

CNN reporting the fuselage has been found.

:happydance:


thank you and it's only 1:45 p.m. there so there's time to take a look see w/divers