Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered

[emirates1957]

Captain is Indonesian F/O is French

Many thanks.

 

[emirates1957]

Many thanks.

Are you aware of their religion?

 

[SouthAussie]

Not sure how many vessels are in the area yet. I read earlier that Indonesia had dispatched two airforce planes, and the Singapore plane we heard of before ... now there is a rescue helicopter going, and a rescue ship.

It is about 5:30 in the evening there now. I hope they have seen something .. not too much daylight left today.

This journalist speaks as if there is an actual site to go to. :thinking:


Michael Bachelard @mbachelard
Nearest local rescue ship dispatched at 8am and would take up to 10 hours at 10 to 15 knots to get there. #AirAsia
1h ago

Michael Bachelard @mbachelard
An Indonesian rescue helicopter was dispatched from Jakarta at about 3pm local time, and the expected time of travel to the site is 3 hours
1h ago

https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=mbachelard

 

[SouthAussie]

BBM: What does this mean? Too slow to make the ascent safely? A possible stall?



A leaked, and yet unconfirmed air traffic control sheet, shared by pilots on Airlines.Net, showed the A320 continuing to climb through 36,000 feet, but only registering a speed of 353 knots.

“Gives me that feeling of another AF447 ... or something similar at least,’’ one pilot suggested, referring to the ill-fated Air France flight that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on June 1, 2009, killing 228 passengers.

One A320 pilot writing on renowned aviation forum Aviation.net confirmed the weather on route was “nasty”, but would not be enough to render major structural failure.

The crew listed on flight QZ8501 included Capt. Iriyanto as pilot.

The first officer is believed to be French pilot Remi Emmanuel Plesel.

The AirAsia employee, based in Paris, was last year included on the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) Airmen Certification Database, according to the Aviation Business Gazette. The FAA website lists Plesel as a certified private pilot of single engine aircraft.

The four flight attendants listed were-- Wanti Setiawati, Khairunisa Haidar Fauzi, Oscar Desano and Wismoyo Ari Prambudi -- as well as technician Saiful Rakhmad.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...sia-to-singapore/story-fnl2dlu7-1227168426446

(Partial passenger manifest at link too.)

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[SouthAussie]

TIMELINE (local times)
5.36am: QZ8501 departs Juanda Airport, Surabaya

6.12am: Pilots contact Jakarta Air Traffic Control centre, requesting weather deviation and a climb in altitude.

6.16am: QZ8501 still observed on radar

6.17am: Radar contact is lost.

6.18am: All contact is lost.Only flight plan view remains on radar screen

7.08am: Jakarta ATC declares aircraft position uncertain

7.28am: Jakarta ATC declares emergency alert

7.55am: Jakarta ATC declares emergency distress

11.47am: AirAsia confirms QZ8501 is missing

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...sia-to-singapore/story-fnl2dlu7-1227168426446

 

[SouthAussie]

Flightradar24 @flightradar24
Only about 1hour of daylight left in #QZ8501 search area
31m ago

 

[gregjrichards]

BBM: What does this mean? Too slow to make the ascent safely? A possible stall?



A leaked, and yet unconfirmed air traffic control sheet, shared by pilots on Airlines.Net, showed the A320 continuing to climb through 36,000 feet, but only registering a speed of 353 knots.

“Gives me that feeling of another AF447 ... or something similar at least,’’ one pilot suggested, referring to the ill-fated Air France flight that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on June 1, 2009, killing 228 passengers.

One A320 pilot writing on renowned aviation forum Aviation.net confirmed the weather on route was “nasty”, but would not be enough to render major structural failure.

The crew listed on flight QZ8501 included Capt. Iriyanto as pilot.

The first officer is believed to be French pilot Remi Emmanuel Plesel.

The AirAsia employee, based in Paris, was last year included on the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) Airmen Certification Database, according to the Aviation Business Gazette. The FAA website lists Plesel as a certified private pilot of single engine aircraft.

Flight attendant Oscar Desano is thought to have been on board QZ8501.
Flight attendant Oscar Desano is thought to have been on board QZ8501.
The four flight attendents listed were-- Wanti Setiawati, Khairunisa Haidar Fauzi, Oscar Desano and Wismoyo Ari Prambudi -- as well as technician Saiful Rakhmad.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...sia-to-singapore/story-fnl2dlu7-1227168426446

(Partial passenger manifest at link too.)

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Yep it does South Aussie. AF447 was terrible I still think of it from time to time there was a 13 years old boy on board on his own whose remains were never recovered for his family. What terrible news to wake up to this and a ferry on fire from Greece. Let's hope they find out what happened soon and the families are spared waiting indefinitely like MH370.

 

[SouthAussie]

15 minutes ago
The Indonesian navy says bad weather is hampering the search for flight QZ8501 in the Java Sea.

For relatives of those on board the AirAsia flight it is a desperately anxious wait for news.

At Juanda airport in Surabaya relatives and friends check the passenger list as the hours since the plane lost contact pass.

"I hope for a miracle, my God save all of them," a friend of two of the passengers said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-28/airasia-flight-loses-contact-with-air-traffic-control/5990424

 

[SouthAussie]

Australia is now sending assistance as well. So there will be vessels from Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Australia searching through the night.

Michael Bachelard @mbachelard · 1h 1 hour ago
Reports in Indonesia that Australia is sending three RAAF P-3 Orion maritime surveillance aircraft to search for the missing #AirAsia plane

 

[SouthAussie]

Oh no ... I thought they would search through the night.

Agence France-Presse @AFP
#BREAKING Search halted for the day for missing AirAsia plane, says Indonesia
10m ago

 

[SilkySifaka]

Oh no ... I thought they would search through the night.

Agence France-Presse @AFP
#BREAKING Search halted for the day for missing AirAsia plane, says Indonesia
10m ago

with the weather this bad it may be for safety reasons, both at sea and in air.

 

[sherbetjello]

Ok I'm calling 100% BS . It's a Malaysian air line. I'm sorry. This is not a coincidence.

150% agreed!!!

 

[skibaboo]

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qz8501/#5240449

 

[nrdsb4]

The crew's request for an unusual route is curious since the weather "didn't seem to be anything unusual," William Waldock, an expert on air crash search and rescue with Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Prescott, Arizona, told the Associated Press.

Severe weather is the reason pilots usually request a different route, but in this case the "winds were light, there were a few thin clouds, but that's about it," he said in an interview.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/1...ing-with-162-on-board-indonesia-media-report/

WTH? That is SO at odds with every other report I have read.

 

[SCHMAE]

Conspiracy theories formulating in 3....2....1....

Yes, many are in my head already ! But I'm going to give them a reasonable amount of time to find this plane. I'm finding all of the weather talk compelling enough to set conspiracies aside for the moment. They have to find this plane though. Imagine the families on the ground. They must be terrified and think this is a bad dream. It's already dark there , too. So sad

 

[SouthAussie]

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qz8501/#5240449

I noticed this about that 'landed' status earlier today ....

Flightradar24 @flightradar24 · 8h 8 hours ago
The #QZ8501 status on Flightradar24 says "landed". This status comes from our data provider and is common when data for a flight is missing

https://twitter.com/flightradar24

 

[SCHMAE]

Just got caught up and I have cnn on *( let's face it, cnn loves missing planes ) . They have not said one word about a crashed plane report or anything of the sort. So were the earlier reports of debris / wreckage untrue? unfounded? hoax? TIA

 

[Elley Mae]

Just got caught up and I have cnn on *( let's face it, cnn loves missing planes ) . They have not said one word about a crashed plane report or anything of the sort. So were the earlier reports of debris / wreckage untrue? unfounded? hoax? TIA

bbm Too funny! When I saw this on a news page earlier I said to myself(hubby was still in bed) Oh this should make cnn's day. Who knows now about debris, it's dark there now. Such a sad day for all involved.


eta

The PM is on his was back to Malaysia

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/284577

 

[SCHMAE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWJp2QfI5CY&feature=youtu.be

I'm guessing this was a slightly premature report .

If wreckage was found, then why STOP the search at dark when people could still be alive? Send a boat and pray for survivors, right?

 

[sherbetjello]

If wreckage was found, then why STOP the search at dark when people could still be alive? Send a boat and pray for survivors, right?

I was just about to say this. You and I are totally in sync today.


And, conspiracy theories aside here, wouldn't it be good to look at why this region of the world is having such disastrous aviation incidents this year?