Revisit - Did CA/GA cover up 7-16-08

[camcneishg]

what you are seeing as the dark wet patch, is some kind of fabric, or plastic. I thought the same until I re-watched the Greta interview. When CA walked over it, you could see it move with the wind.....odd.

 

[NocturnalLady]

It's probably there to keep the bamboo and other weeds from growing up through.

 

[countzero]

(Bold mine.) Is this a different laptop than the one Lee retrieved from Tony's apartment that had the BSOD (blue screen?)

I also wondered that and re-read that over a couple of times and concluded that its the way the sentence was constructed. imo it meant they retrieved the laptop (the one lee retrieved), the vehicle and items that were (retrieved from the vehicle.) Check it out again and tell me if you come to that conclusion as well?

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4320677/...ments-released

The way I interpret these statements in the docs is CA stated B]she[/B] removed the laptop from the car. LA states he retrieved it from AL. There are no docs released that address the specifics of the laptop. In AL's interview it stops before they start discussing what LA removed from his apt. Nor in LA's interview does he state or is asked who, what and why he went over to ALs apt to retrieve KC's personal items left there.

In C Beasley's report she states the items on the evidence list for items in the car were on a table when she returned 7.17.08 to impound them as evidence. GA released the desktop tower by an affidavit earlier along with a camera. Still seeking LE Williams report who went to AL's to retrieve KC's phone.

There are only two forensic reports for computers the A clan owned. A HP desktop tower and a Compaq laptop. Reviewing these forensic reports, there is nothing noted that the laptop had a BSOD. In the copies of the files retrieved, many have the path: redacted so I can't determine, other than by guessing, which computer they came from. LE has not released a lot of important information gathered from the computers.

The computer forensic reports as well as others were used to obtain a murder warrant from the Grand Jury in Oct I think. The remaining balance of forensic reports will be used at trial. If I am correct, they will be in a future dump.

 

[countzero]

It's probably there to keep the bamboo and other weeds from growing up through.

what you are seeing as the dark wet patch, is some kind of fabric, or plastic. I thought the same until I re-watched the Greta interview. When CA walked over it, you could see it move with the wind.....odd.

Jmo, I see what looks to be a dark wet patch on the left side? A break in the plants that looks like it may be repeated near the posts.And an absence of red stones lining up on the right side? (I hate to come in here, it hurts my heart for poor little Caylee, but do want to look at Casey like one looks at a creepy bug or disease under a microscope, and scream how does this happen??)

If you read the link in my above post 227, it discusses the yard and the disturbances in the yard, section by section. LE did probing to see if there was any indications of digging. They did a pretty thorough job and documenting it.

The fabric/plastic is the type used to prevent weeds from coming through. Or suppose to.

KC could have had Caylee wrapped in the Poo blanket PRIOR to double bagging her on the ground which is why the dogs hit in certain areas but nothing was found.

link for my post 227
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3715610/CASEY_ANTHONY_FORENSIC_FILES-PART_001_JANUARY_21_09

 

[camcneishg]

thanks countzero....I do not see a link in your post 227, help me out here please.

 

[Intermezzo]

So---the big problem was that somebody didn't pick the car up from Amscot? (that from jailhouse visit---CA ask KC "why didn't she pick up the car?").

My mind is gettin away from you guys. What do ya'll think the big probably was? Maybe that they knew there had to have been a dead body in the car and maybe thinkin KC killed a drug dealer?

IMOThe Big Problem was..The A's found out the car was towed on June 30th, it was now July 15 (2 weeks!!! ) how in the heck has Casey been getting around and why didn't she tell them she no longer had the car. They had to pay to get the car out of the tow yard(CA none to happy to dish out her hard earned money) and it stunk like.........

If I remember correctly Casey told her parents she was in Jacksonville spending time with(ahem, boyfriend) Jeff, that they were trying to work things out to see if they can be a ("sob sob") famiglia.
Also during this time her car supposedly broke down in Jacksonville and Jeff was having it repaired.

 

[countzero]

thanks countzero....I do not see a link in your post 227, help me out here please.

Well dang if I DIDN"T forget to link it, smack me with a wet noodle.

here it is and I will fix my post as well. Thanks for letting me know.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3715610/CASEY_ANTHONY_FORENSIC_FILES-PART_001_JANUARY_21_09

 

[doogiesgirl]

So---the big problem was that somebody didn't pick the car up from Amscot? (that from jailhouse visit---CA ask KC "why didn't she pick up the car?").

My mind is gettin away from you guys. What do ya'll think the big probably was? Maybe that they knew there had to have been a dead body in the car and maybe thinkin KC killed a drug dealer?

If that was my kid's car #1---I'd be calling constantly, just call after call after call, etc. but if I couldn't reach my kid my text to him/her, after finding my car smelling like that and all the other previous 30 day stuff, would be something like this: "I"M AT TOW LOT WITH YOUR STINKING CAR--WTF??!! CALL ME NOW COZ I'M CALLING THE LAW!! U HAVE 2 MINUTES! JMO

 

[countzero]

If that was my kid's car #1---I'd be calling constantly, just call after call after call, etc. but if I couldn't reach my kid my text to him/her, after finding my car smelling like that and all the other previous 30 day stuff, would be something like this: "I"M AT TOW LOT WITH YOUR STINKING CAR--WTF??!! CALL ME NOW COZ I'M CALLING THE LAW!! U HAVE 2 MINUTES! JMO

You are more generous than I would have been.

Knowing my kid had serious mental issues prior to her taking off w/grandchild in tow 31 days ago, then finding the car, my call or text would have been a simple ....

"I have your car. Called LE, meet me at the house w/grandchild"

 

[doogiesgirl]

You are more generous than I would have been.

Knowing my kid had serious mental issues prior to her taking off w/grandchild in tow 31 days ago, then finding the car, my call or text would have been a simple ....

"I have your car. Called LE, met me at the house w/grandchild"

Yes... yours is better. It is really hard for me to put myself in CA's position b/c at that moment, soo much has taken place that has gotten her to that point in time, it's almost impossible(for me) to remember all of it. It takes ALOT to get me angry but once my fuse is lit---watch out! LOL I am pretty sure my anger would have taken over my reasoning (and that doesn't usually help one to think clearly). Honestly, I can't even imagine being in that position b/c I would have nipped it in the bud years before. Anyhoo....

I have just spent at least an hour going through your last link. There is alot of interesting info in that. I have so many notes right now, I need to organize my thoughts on them b/f I post. It's kinda hard to follow so much info. But the botanical evidence they are analyzing has me wondering if that could be those dead flowers in the photo SFT posted. I have to try and figure out where that evidence came from. Was it from the trunk? I'm not sure yet. When I figure it out I'll post about it. JMO

O/T--I had to laugh when I saw your post saying something about "whip me with a wet noodle" because that is one of my tongue in cheek sayings I use on my son. I tell him ok buddy for that you get "50 lashes with a limp noodle"! lol pretty close huh? You know what they say? Great minds think alike!

 

[doogiesgirl]

Me too. I think LE took pictures of everything not knowing what might be important later on down the path. I have a feeling this picture may be about as important as the picture of the bookcase in one of the the bedrooms that had a book in it about a child who was murdered. I think we might be grasping here. . . but we never know until it is fully explored. moo

Wait....I missed that. Do you remember what the name of the book was? Or the name of the murdered child? That's very interesting.....hmmm. JMO

 

[chefmom]

Well dang if I DIDN"T forget to link it, smack me with a wet noodle.

here it is and I will fix my post as well. Thanks for letting me know.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3715610/CASEY_ANTHONY_FORENSIC_FILES-PART_001_JANUARY_21_09

Glad to! :whip:

:angel:

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Wait....I missed that. Do you remember what the name of the book was? Or the name of the murdered child? That's very interesting.....hmmm. JMO

The Shack. I don't think there's any connection at all ~ But here's a whole thread on it: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81051&highlight=shack

 

[countzero]

Yes... yours is better. It is really hard for me to put myself in CA's position b/c at that moment, soo much has taken place that has gotten her to that point in time, it's almost impossible(for me) to remember all of it. It takes ALOT to get me angry but once my fuse is lit---watch out! LOL I am pretty sure my anger would have taken over my reasoning (and that doesn't usually help one to think clearly). Honestly, I can't even imagine being in that position b/c I would have nipped it in the bud years before. Anyhoo....

I have just spent at least an hour going through your last link. There is alot of interesting info in that. I have so many notes right now, I need to organize my thoughts on them b/f I post. It's kinda hard to follow so much info. But the botanical evidence they are analyzing has me wondering if that could be those dead flowers in the photo SFT posted. I have to try and figure out where that evidence came from. Was it from the trunk? I'm not sure yet. When I figure it out I'll post about it. JMO

O/T--I had to laugh when I saw your post saying something about "whip me with a wet noodle" because that is one of my tongue in cheek sayings I use on my son. I tell him ok buddy for that you get "50 lashes with a limp noodle"! lol pretty close huh? You know what they say? Great minds think alike!

Either that or you are my missing twin sister ......

Yeppers, that doc was hidden from me. I got all excited to read it and then afterwards I have more questions and have to dive into other documents to look for answers. Is there a smilie for wiping off my brow ?? if so insert that puppy here.

 

[BionicSurfer]

OK, just some random thoughts about picture #49. The flowers appear to be Bird of paradise. They seem to be rather young or stunted from being so close to the fence. The fence and the ground appear to be wet, probably part of the wet weather back then in Florida. The newer mulch/rock were more than likely placed due to roof wash-out. Most homes here don't have gutters all the way around the house. Builders typically only place them in high traffic areas (unless its a more expensive home or added) Since there may be some botanical testing, is it possible that some (or one) of these plants were found near the body? Since they are clumping plants could they be 'trace-able' along with the soil?
Back OT, the A's reek of cover-up from the moment the light bulb went off in CA's head. If you were planning on taking custody of your grandchild wouldn't calling the authorities have dawned on you when the baby hadn't been seen for the first week? For certain when you realized your child had no means for providing ANYTHING for your grandbaby? They had no permanent place to live but your home. Once July arrived, the certified letter (from the tow yard) proved there was no vehical for your grandbaby to live in at a bare minimum.Wouldn't a controlling opinionated grandmother have made a call to Child Protective Services by then if only to build your case for custody? All this before she 'knew' Caylee was missing.There would be no need to protect your 'visitation' rights at this point, go ahead and tick KC off. For some reason the 'battle' was out of her at this point.
IMO, once she DID involve the authorities it was too late and her learned behavior of clean-up and cover-up kicked in. Once the ball started rolling, there was no way to stop it in the A's la-la land.

 

[doogiesgirl]

Ok I have the worst memory ever but many, many, years ago I worked in a flower shop and I could swear there were orange flowers like the one in the pick of the A yard that SFT posted and they were a type of lily. An orange, very sturdy lily. Do those grow in FLA? MOO

 

[JBean]

Please find the threads of the topics you guys are discussing.
if there is no thread on the specific issues you guys are talking about, feel free to start one specific to the topic.
Sorry,but the information is too hard to recover at trial when it is jammed into one thread that is covering so many issues.

 

[Ripley007]

My question about Caylee's room and the window was could that be how she got a deceased Caylee out of the house, through the window and into the side yard by the shed? Sorry if O/T, but I was trying to figure out the picture too, why LE might have taken it.

Cindy stated many times that Caylee often slept in KC mommy's room. I can't defend my reasoning, but I believe Caylee was killed in KC's b-room, so the relationship between Caylee B-room window and the shed may not have anything to do with anything....just saying.

We have been asked to "get back on topic" The topic is GA/CA covering up, on purpose, perhaps, JULY 16th. Well, Like I've stated and lots others too, simply driving home a car that REEKED of KNOWN HUMAN DECOMP SMELL, constitutes a "COVER-UP" in my humble opinion.

 

[Ripley007]

OK, just some random thoughts about picture #49. The flowers appear to be Bird of paradise. They seem to be rather young or stunted from being so close to the fence. The fence and the ground appear to be wet, probably part of the wet weather back then in Florida. The newer mulch/rock were more than likely placed due to roof wash-out. Most homes here don't have gutters all the way around the house. Builders typically only place them in high traffic areas (unless its a more expensive home or added) Since there may be some botanical testing, is it possible that some (or one) of these plants were found near the body? Since they are clumping plants could they be 'trace-able' along with the soil?
Back OT, the A's reek of cover-up from the moment the light bulb went off in CA's head. If you were planning on taking custody of your grandchild wouldn't calling the authorities have dawned on you when the baby hadn't been seen for the first week? For certain when you realized your child had no means for providing ANYTHING for your grandbaby? They had no permanent place to live but your home. Once July arrived, the certified letter (from the tow yard) proved there was no vehical for your grandbaby to live in at a bare minimum.Wouldn't a controlling opinionated grandmother have made a call to Child Protective Services by then if only to build your case for custody? All this before she 'knew' Caylee was missing.There would be no need to protect your 'visitation' rights at this point, go ahead and tick KC off. For some reason the 'battle' was out of her at this point.
IMO, once she DID involve the authorities it was too late and her learned behavior of clean-up and cover-up kicked in. Once the ball started rolling, there was no way to stop it in the A's la-la land.

I am in awe of the second paragraph of your post! (Beginning with Back OT) Absolutely Brilliant Common Sense thinking. I've nothing to add. Just wanted to bump this back up to the top cause I like it that much.

 

[metalcrystal]

OK, just some random thoughts about picture #49. The flowers appear to be Bird of paradise. They seem to be rather young or stunted from being so close to the fence. The fence and the ground appear to be wet, probably part of the wet weather back then in Florida. The newer mulch/rock were more than likely placed due to roof wash-out. Most homes here don't have gutters all the way around the house. Builders typically only place them in high traffic areas (unless its a more expensive home or added) Since there may be some botanical testing, is it possible that some (or one) of these plants were found near the body? Since they are clumping plants could they be 'trace-able' along with the soil?
Back OT, the A's reek of cover-up from the moment the light bulb went off in CA's head. If you were planning on taking custody of your grandchild wouldn't calling the authorities have dawned on you when the baby hadn't been seen for the first week? For certain when you realized your child had no means for providing ANYTHING for your grandbaby? They had no permanent place to live but your home. Once July arrived, the certified letter (from the tow yard) proved there was no vehical for your grandbaby to live in at a bare minimum.Wouldn't a controlling opinionated grandmother have made a call to Child Protective Services by then if only to build your case for custody? All this before she 'knew' Caylee was missing.There would be no need to protect your 'visitation' rights at this point, go ahead and tick KC off. For some reason the 'battle' was out of her at this point.
IMO, once she DID involve the authorities it was too late and her learned behavior of clean-up and cover-up kicked in. Once the ball started rolling, there was no way to stop it in the A's la-la land.

Yes, yes and yes! I know Cindy loved Caylee so much, why didnt she go find her the first 24 hours after Casey "moved out" ( I am assuming it was June 9th)? I would think she would have moved heaven and earth to find her and bring her back where she belonged. They had NOWHERE to go. You are right that covering up is going on big time here, starting with the FIGHT, and spiralling out of control from there.