RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

  • #621
Does he have a beard? There is a black area below his mask and a bit on the sides.

It kind of looks to me like the shadow I get under my double chin in photos 😳

It's hard for me to tell, but could the top part of the jacket be a dark blue instead of black? Something like this:

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Those are the colours I see too!

I am not convinced about the pot belly look though, it doesn't look natural, too small for the overall appearance of his frame. I would say he is definitely on the portlier side, but the belly shape doesn't fit. He also seems to deliberately waddle and make it protrude as he walks, drawing the eye more specifically. I wouldnt be surprised if thats not really how he walks.
It has the "madchester" swagger of the 90's Britpop era, think Liam Gallagher or Perry of Kevin and Perry.
 
  • #622
I have excluded the possibility that he had a long object inside his baggy pants which made it difficult to bend his leg.
not excluded - corrected
 
  • #623
Rhetorical question, but how can the mayor and LE say there is no current threat when they have no idea what the motivation was, and have no idea who the guy is?
 
  • #624

The video you are referring to is #2 on the map, captured at 1438. Google Maps has the distance between 2 and 3 as .1 miles, and less than a 3 minute walk. He took about 15 minutes to get there, so there is a large gap and a lot of possibilities for what he did and where he went.

One thing I think is pretty certain is that if he had grabbed the bag at that corner, it would have been caught on video.
Well shoot, which video is the one for #1 then? I watched the press conference, and they showed #1 being 110 Benevolent and when they clicked on it, it was the clip of him pacing around on that corner. So that is NOT correct? The second clip is of somewhere on Cooke Street (looks like maybe 58?). Here is the photo I was looking at for these references. I apologize for my confusion.. lol
 

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  • #625
Im thinking he definitely looks older, and im wondering if he could be a parent of a recent student. I wonder if there have been any student deaths this year, or maybe a student who dropped out for reasons related to their peers, those kind of scenarios.
Maybe a parent avenging a child?

Pure speculation on my part and probably way off the mark!.
 
  • #626
Rhetorical question, but how can the mayor and LE say there is no current threat when they have no idea what the motivation was, and have no idea who the guy is?
One can only hope they know more than they are saying.
 
  • #627
Rhetorical question, but how can the mayor and LE say there is no current threat when they have no idea what the motivation was, and have no idea who the guy is?

EXACTLY!

What bothers me is they detain a person of interest and are SO careful to only refer to him as a POI. Which is correct, BUT if they didn't think this was THE GUY, why did they lift the lock down order at the same time they announced this POI was detained? If they had to make sure first, they lift that lockdown order? that sends the message they think they have their guy. People are not idiots and I'd say most of those who were locked down breathed a sigh of relief that they had the guy, and the order was lifted. Then they announce, oops not the guy, but hey he was only a POI not a suspect. Okay then why was the order lifted?

They claim it's all part of the process and now evidence leads a different direction and that is fine, but to say no threat is just false. There is a threat until this person is caught because they don't know why he did what he did and if he's working with anyone or planning another attack somewhere else.

IMO
 
  • #628
  • #629
FBI Special Agent in Charge Ted Docks said that the suspect should be considered "armed and dangerous" and he is asking "everyone in Rhode Island and beyond" to review images of the suspect, share them on social media and come forward with information.
Docks said that tips can be called in to the Providence Police at 401-272-3121, called in to the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324) or electronically at tips.fbi.gov.


https://www.providencejournal.com/l...-university-live-updates-suspect/87784303007/
 
  • #630
One can only hope they know more than they are saying.
They have not inspired confidence recently, imo.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Ted Docks said that the suspect should be considered "armed and dangerous" and he is asking "everyone in Rhode Island and beyond" to review images of the suspect, share them on social media and come forward with information.
Docks said that tips can be called in to the Providence Police at 401-272-3121, called in to the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324) or electronically at tips.fbi.gov.


https://www.providencejournal.com/l...-university-live-updates-suspect/87784303007/
BBM.

Which directly contradicts the no current threat statement.
 
  • #631
I wonder what he is looking at in the video where he's walking back and forth? Can we figure that out with google maps? Was he looking towards the building he was about to enter?
 
  • #632
A lot of "before" discussion to hopefully identify him prior to the shooting, which is a key element in finding out who this person is, how was he dressed, what he was carrying (or not) & where did he come from. However, I'm looking at the angle of his possible get away routes. It's my understanding he was captured turning right from Hope St. to Waterman St. AFTER the shooting. My thinking is: he's in the "quickest-route-out-of-there" mode. I think he went EAST on Waterman, turned RIGHT onto Gano Street to the bottom (60 Gano) where there is parking next to the I-95 ramp. The walk score from where he was captured near 141 Waterman St to 60 Gano St. is 18 minutes / 0.9 miles. He could have parked anywhere along that route or he could have walked/ran to a vehicle parked in the parking area(s) next to the West Shore Coffee Bar (60 Gano St.) where he could easily & immediately entered I-95 & go South to Connecticut or North to Massachusetts. (Photos from Google Street View)
 

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  • #633
PLEASE REMEMBER YOU MUST SOURCE YOUR PICTURES. YOU NEED TO LINK TO WHERE YOU GOT THEM OR, IF A LINK IS NOT POSSIBLE, POST WHERE YOU GOT THE PHOTO.
THANK YOU
 
  • #634
If the guy in the pictures and videos is not the shooter he will be contacting LE very soon to clear things up. My guess is that won’t be happening.
Just my opinion, but I think the videos etc are good enough, especially the jacket and shape of him, for someone to recognize him.
Fingers crossed that someone does the right thing.
 
  • #635
They have not inspired confidence recently, imo.


BBM.

Which directly contradicts the no current threat statement.
So much for...
 

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  • #636
Rhetorical question, but how can the mayor and LE say there is no current threat when they have no idea what the motivation was, and have no idea who the guy is?
<modsnip: No need to be condescending>

They are using specific language, which indicates the initial incident is over. There was not an immediate continuation - ie. running gun battle/chase/2nd attack. And, they have no knowledge of an explicit continuing threat or a threat to return - ie. a manifesto, target list, video, etc..

They have mentioned increased police presence in the area.

There is certainly a gunman still at large, somewhere. Under the circumstances, behave as you see fit. You have not been advised by LE to turn off your brain and everything is just OK, no worries.

<modsnip>
 
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  • #637
Well shoot, which video is the one for #1 then? I watched the press conference, and they showed #1 being 110 Benevolent and when they clicked on it, it was the clip of him pacing around on that corner. So that is NOT correct? The second clip is of somewhere on Cooke Street (looks like maybe 58?). Here is the photo I was looking at for these references. I apologize for my confusion.. lol
So my map is in temporal order, the list of clips is in alphabetical order. The #1 on the map are the still photos from the corner of Hope and Benevolent. The Cooke video is #3.
 
  • #638
EXACTLY!

What bothers me is they detain a person of interest and are SO careful to only refer to him as a POI. Which is correct, BUT if they didn't think this was THE GUY, why did they lift the lock down order at the same time they announced this POI was detained? If they had to make sure first, they lift that lockdown order? that sends the message they think they have their guy. People are not idiots and I'd say most of those who were locked down breathed a sigh of relief that they had the guy, and the order was lifted. Then they announce, oops not the guy, but hey he was only a POI not a suspect. Okay then why was the order lifted?

They claim it's all part of the process and now evidence leads a different direction and that is fine, but to say no threat is just false. There is a threat until this person is caught because they don't know why he did what he did and if he's working with anyone or planning another attack somewhere else.

IMO
They come across as incompetent as a whole. Maybe because Providence usually doesn't have murders or mass shootings, so they're not adept at public speaking, but they're well spoken without saying anything of substance (except when they expose an innocent person mistakenly).
 
  • #639
They have not inspired confidence recently, imo.


BBM.

Which directly contradicts the no current threat statement.
The mayor inspires zero confidence.
 
  • #640

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