RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

[Ruby Sue]

Suspect looks like they have a form of EDS based on the leg movements

 

[justtrish]

Is it absolute that it's two people?

Is it absolute that the timing is linear?

Could it be a function of a security camera that records while it is recording? Double capture?

JMO

To me the second person in black looks different. I don't see a hat on their head and they seem taller and leaner. IMO

It's both – the timestamp jumps from 28 seconds past to 36 seconds past, so eight seconds are unrecorded or have been edited out. Then, there's a frozen frame at 36 seconds past but nothing missing after that – the timestamp moves smoothly to 37 seconds, etc. It originally looked to me that it was the second person, originally visible on the right of the video footage, who was running, and not the POI. I'm not certain, though. My first thought was that the second person, wearing a lighter-colour hat than the POI, broke into a run the way I would if I saw a bus arriving that I wanted to be on, but I don't know the area and I don't know if that's a possibility.

For clarity: the long pause is on the frame after the missing footage, not before. It's not clear to me why the paused frame exists. Is it to get people to look at something in that frame?

Okay so I just watched GH's coverage again. Look at 6:30 into his video and watch on the other side of the street behind the suspect. I see a man in black walking. Could that be the man from the previous clip that was seen also running?

 

[wibbleflea]

"Rhode Island official's statements suggest ​

'some strong leads' in hunt for Brown shooter, ​

analyst says.​

Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha’s recent statements
indicating he expects an apprehension in connection with the Brown University shooting in the near future
suggest that law enforcement are working 'some strong leads',
former Boston police commissioner Ed Davis said.

'As a public official,
you don’t make a statement like that unless you’re on to something'."

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brown-university-shooting-suspect-12-17-25

Fingers

From the link you posted:

"Investigators told reporters that video was recovered from multiple cameras in the building that showed students running and the chaos during and after the shooting. But the person of interest appeared to have traveled through an older part of the structure where there was little or no camera coverage.

"Once again, it raised questions in the minds of detectives: Was the shooter lucky? Or were they already familiar with the target location, where victims would be on a Saturday –– and where cameras would not?"

That's what I've been wondering. It sounds like LE feels like they're making good progress, though, and are much further along than a couple of days ago. The talk of DNA is interesting – you can see the POI is gloved in some footage but not in others.

 

[Dotta]

Suspect looks like they have a form of EDS based on the leg movements

Ummm...
It seems to me, the person's gait is caused by obesity,
and legs seem to be "knee knocked".
This condition worsens with each kilo gained.
Also thick thighs cause walking like this.

JMO

 

[BigCityAccountant1]

To me the second person in black looks different. I don't see a hat on their head and they seem taller and leaner. IMO

Okay so I just watched GH's coverage again. Look at 6:30 into his video and watch on the other side of the street behind the suspect. I see a man in black walking. Could that be the man from the previous clip that was seen also running?

I was just looking at that too. I acquiesce there does appear to be 2 suspects. It also appears the 2nd continues straight while the guy in black turns the corner. If there are 2 suspects, I hope they traced the other guys movements to a get away vehicle. This would make sense that the other guy was the "getaway" driver and what would seem to be the suspects disappearance into thin air. I sure hope they looked at video tracing the other guys movements and they found a vehicle to trace.

The dishearting part is that there is potentially not 1 but 2 sick individuals out there that need to apprehended. I sure hope they are close to making arrests.

 

[whitelilac]

I find it curious that there is all this video footage of the POI before the shooting, and just the one short video of him turning the corner after the shooting. Granted, before it happened the guy was walking around willy nilly and loitering, but afterwards he had to have gone somewhere along at least a couple of streets to get out of the area, back to his car (if he had one) or wherever. The building he entered is right there in the neighborhood.

eta, unless there is video which hasn't been published because it is not helpful for identification.

 

[Onlyguessing23]

I find it curious that there is all this video footage of the POI before the shooting, and just the one short video of him turning the corner after the shooting. Granted, before it happened the guy was walking around willy nilly and loitering, but afterwards he had to have gone somewhere along at least a couple of streets to get out of the area, back to his car (if he had one) or wherever. The building he entered is right there in the neighborhood.

Unless he ditches his jacket and mask, along with some kind of Santa belly prosthetic and has a different appearance.

 

[Cryptic]

Public transit in Rhode Island is mainly buses, although there's been a train that goes to Boston. Access is mainly at ground level. To the best of my recollection, there are no public transit facilities with elevators, except at the airport. If he's from Rhode Island, or adjacent areas in Connecticut or Massachusetts, he probably has a car. It's hard to live without one.

Thanks.

I have spent a lot of time in NYC, but have only been to New England once. As a result, I was wondering if there was a corridor between say, NYC - Newport- Boston, where there would still be good numbers of people with out cars and having some NYC style public transportation.

 

[Dotta]

Unless he ditches his jacket and mask, along with some kind of Santa belly prosthetic and has a different appearance.

Lol
Legs and gait tell the truth.
There is nothing to ditch
(only diet will help) IMO.

This is how this person looks - according to ME!!!

I suspect this person suffers from MH issues.

JMO

 

[Auntie Cipation]

That's a vibe I get Mass.
Not seeing any rocket science happening there. Seems too jittery for any real professionalism, almost like he was considering chickening out and having to psyche up for it.

I too think his multi-block wanderings might have been him trying to talk himself into (or out of) the shooting.

And one more theory for the shooting itself: perhaps someone who got an engineering degree from Brown (maybe even 10-20 years ago) but who is struggling in his career, unable to find or keep a job in his field, etc. Or overwhelmed with student debt, either by itself or in addition to the job struggles. Given the current economy I imagine there are many people who aren't feeling like their college degrees were worth the cost. MOO

 

[Arkay]

Unless he ditches his jacket and mask, along with some kind of Santa belly prosthetic and has a different appearance.

I think 90% that’s his real pot belly, just because his legs look stocky, as well.

But I do recall, when I was in my early 20s, dressing up as an old lady for Halloween.

Part of my disguise was wearing a pillow belted under my old lady dress, just to look more matronly, and it worked really well.

I don’t think it’s a fake pregnancy belly because the shape isn’t right, and again I do think it’s his real belly, but as yet we know so little that I can entertain any possibility at the moment.

JMO and guesswork.

 

[LAhiker]

I too think his multi-block wanderings might have been him trying to talk himself into (or out of) the shooting.

And one more theory for the shooting itself: perhaps someone who got an engineering degree from Brown (maybe even 10-20 years ago) but who is struggling in his career, unable to find or keep a job in his field, etc. Or overwhelmed with student debt, either by itself or in addition to the job struggles. Given the current economy I imagine there are many people who aren't feeling like their college degrees were worth the cost. MOO

I think that's a reasonable theory as to motive. Another possibility (depending on his age) is that he could be someone whose child (I keep thinking a son) was let go from a graduate or undergraduate program, possibly with very negative results. I assume they're looking into people who were enrolled in or graduated from programs in that building or in programs associated with the professor teaching the review session (or whatever it was).

JMO

 

[Dotta]

I too think his multi-block wanderings might have been him trying to talk himself into (or out of) the shooting.

And one more theory for the shooting itself: perhaps someone who got an engineering degree from Brown (maybe even 10-20 years ago) but who is struggling in his career, unable to find or keep a job in his field, etc. Or overwhelmed with student debt, either by itself or in addition to the job struggles. Given the current economy I imagine there are many people who aren't feeling like their college degrees were worth the cost. MOO

A "grievances collector" - that's for sure IMO.
But then,
aren't all mass/school shooters??

It is the same old story
Only names change.

JMO

 

[m00c0w]

Just a thought I had, not finalized by any means…

He may have had a vehicle staged on Cooke, north of George. He doesn’t want to be seen going into the vehicle or being associated with it, so he is keeping his distance. He sees folks around, so has to bail a couple of times on trying to access the vehicle and does loops around the intersection. Goes up and down George to make it seem like he’s going somewhere different by other pedestrians, and cuts back to make sure the coast is clear. I need to check on when/where the running instances occurred, but may have been an effort to get to the vehicle while no one was around or move away from the vehicle because people were around.

 

[Inthedetails]

I find it curious that there is all this video footage of the POI before the shooting, and just the one short video of him turning the corner after the shooting. Granted, before it happened the guy was walking around willy nilly and loitering, but afterwards he had to have gone somewhere along at least a couple of streets to get out of the area, back to his car (if he had one) or wherever. The building he entered is right there in the neighborhood.

eta, unless there is video which hasn't been published because it is not helpful for identification.

Maybe because it was getting darker and the lighting is bad on the videos, so not much use to release to the public (though might be helpful to LE)? Idk.

jmo

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Just some random thoughts:

His wandering around for hours before the shooting seems kinda unique to me. Mass shooters, no matter the motive, no matter their mental state, have always come across as very focused on getting the job done. I can’t recall any who survived relating afterward how they were torn between carrying out the attack or not. This was their plan and they were set on it.
But I do think this guy is conflicted, and I am wondering if he’s conflicted because this isn’t really his idea. That someone else has tried to influence him and push him into it. I am leaning toward it being a terrorist attack, and a wider motive, and a reluctant terrorist.
I still think he was from out of town, or he would have spent hours in his apartment pacing.

 

[Charlot123]

Posting this very short video from GHI. 12m

The "BREAKING! 2 suspects" is just his take on things. But he zeroes in on the footage with running.

Do we have any video of the shooter without youtubers comments?

 

[LAhiker]

Just a thought I had, not finalized by any means…

He may have had a vehicle staged on Cooke, north of George. He doesn’t want to be seen going into the vehicle or being associated with it, so he is keeping his distance. He sees folks around, so has to bail a couple of times on trying to access the vehicle and does loops around the intersection. Goes up and down George to make it seem like he’s going somewhere different by other pedestrians, and cuts back to make sure the coast is clear. I need to check on when/where the running instances occurred, but may have been an effort to get to the vehicle while no one was around or move away from the vehicle because people were around.

I think that's a reasonable theory. It might explain why, after running, he then circles back towards the street he was on before. He could be heading back towards something that he doesn't want to be seen approaching -- a vehicle, or his satchel. (I'm not on top of when his satchel is visible.)

I found the Grant Hughes video very helpful to get a better idea of the POI's movements during a short period; I don't know about the theories about interactions w/ a second person. The POI's running reminds me a bit of what I, a small woman, sometimes do when going on a walk in my neighborhood at night. If I see someone who spooks me, I walk sedately to the next corner, turn the corner, walk until I'm no longer visible to the person, and then run like hell to the next corner. Once I'm out of sight around that second corner, I can slow down again. Not only do I want to get away from the spooky person -- I don't want to be seen showing fear and thus looking like a victim.

So the POI sees the other person through the corner, turns and runs, with the goal of getting around the next corner before being seen, and possibly before being seen running (because that would be suspicious). Then he can relax. Why does he run a second time? Does he think he hasn't shaken the person?

The odd thing is that he appears to be circling back rather than going further away. That's where @m00c0w's theory comes in. I assume the POI from out of town rather than the neighborhood. That said, his circling somewhat resembles what people do during car chases here in LA. They tend to return to an area that is familiar to them, often where they live. I agree that the POI may have some sort of "anchor" in the area that he keeps returning to.

JMO

 

[Charlot123]

From what I can see, he is overweight (maybe not to the degree it looks as i am.not sure he is not carrying something on his belly), has retrognatia (receding chin) and fat neck.

If you Google "retrognatia and fat neck" images or "receding chin and fat neck" Goigle images and take more extreme ones, it might illustrate how it looks to me.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001345847133643062