The retired LE analyst on Fox was talking about what he thought police were doing. He said police had access to all cell phones used in the area during the days surrounding the attack. They could learn which phones were in use on which days, which phones were from out of town. He said they would look at traffic cameras for every car coming and going town. He said checking red light automated speeding tickets could reveal somebody in a hurry to get out of town. Where any of the "finds" cross might get them close. That sounds like an awful lot of looking and checking though I suppose AI could help.
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Yes it was like a different person, running, very comfortably. I was whoaaa. It was him though. I assumed he was running just to 'mix it up' from just pacing around the building sidewalks. He was there a long time, waiting, but we don't know if he was waiting for a reason, though it seems so. IMO
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After I read about the slain MIT professor, I suddenly thought of Ted Kaczynski. He was obsessed with negative effects of technology, and targeted university personnel, among others. Perhaps this is someone angry with academia, with a similar agenda. Just a thought...
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According to this source the exam rooms required ID badges but the outer doors to the buildings did not.
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I just thought I would add this info to the discussion.
Engineering design exams were underway. Outer doors of the building were unlocked but rooms being used for final exams required badge access, Smiley said.
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Engineering design exams were underway. Outer doors of the building were unlocked but rooms being used for final exams required badge access, Smiley said.
Authorities release person of interest detained in Brown University shooting
The disclosure, made at a hastily convened late night news conference, represents a dramatic setback in an investigation into killings that set off hours of chaos on the Ivy League campus.
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1 hr 20 min ago
There is no apparent connection between Saturday’s mass shooting at Brown University and the shooting Monday of a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, officials said at a news conference.
Nuno F.G. Loureiro, 47, died at a hospital in Brookline, Massachusetts, on Tuesday morning after being shot at his home the night before, according to The Associated Press. Loureiro was the director of the university’s Plasma Science and Fusion Center as well as a professor in departments for nuclear science and engineering and physics, AP reported.
“At this time, there seems to be no connection,” FBI Special Agent Ted Docks responded when asked if there is any connection between the two shootings. Providence Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez Jr. said, “Not that we know of,” when asked the same question.
2 hr 4 min ago
There is no evidence that Brown University student Ella Cook, who was killed in Saturday’s mass shooting, was targeted, Providence Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez Jr. said.
“No, not at this point,” the chief responded when asked by a reporter whether officials have any evidence Cook, 19, may have been targeted. MukhammadAziz Umurzokov, 18, was identified as the other student who was killed.
No connection between fatal shooting of MIT professor and Brown University shooting, officials say
From CNN's Emma TuckerThere is no apparent connection between Saturday’s mass shooting at Brown University and the shooting Monday of a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, officials said at a news conference.
Nuno F.G. Loureiro, 47, died at a hospital in Brookline, Massachusetts, on Tuesday morning after being shot at his home the night before, according to The Associated Press. Loureiro was the director of the university’s Plasma Science and Fusion Center as well as a professor in departments for nuclear science and engineering and physics, AP reported.
“At this time, there seems to be no connection,” FBI Special Agent Ted Docks responded when asked if there is any connection between the two shootings. Providence Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez Jr. said, “Not that we know of,” when asked the same question.
2 hr 4 min ago
No evidence student killed in shooting was targeted, police chief says
From CNN's Emma TuckerThere is no evidence that Brown University student Ella Cook, who was killed in Saturday’s mass shooting, was targeted, Providence Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez Jr. said.
“No, not at this point,” the chief responded when asked by a reporter whether officials have any evidence Cook, 19, may have been targeted. MukhammadAziz Umurzokov, 18, was identified as the other student who was killed.
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Thoughts about why he might have been running:
Just to warm up a bit if he was cold?
Or, maybe combined with why he walked the same blocks multiple times, I wondered if perhaps he was trying to figure out the best route to take afterwards -- things like where he might be mostly in shadows, or which streets would have fewer pedestrians, and also assessing the timing of how long it would take him to cover certain stretches of the route.
Just to warm up a bit if he was cold?
Or, maybe combined with why he walked the same blocks multiple times, I wondered if perhaps he was trying to figure out the best route to take afterwards -- things like where he might be mostly in shadows, or which streets would have fewer pedestrians, and also assessing the timing of how long it would take him to cover certain stretches of the route.
2 hr 3 min ago
Brown University President Christina Paxson said the institution has two security systems that can be activated during an emergency – and one is not used during an active shooting because it would cause a rush of people inside.
“We have two security systems that we can activate in a time of an emergency. One is a system that sends out text messages, phone calls, emails, and it was activated within minutes of the incident. Those messages went out to 20,000 individuals.”
The other alert system, Paxson said, is a siren system.
“There are three sirens placed across campus. Those get activated when there is a broad-scale emergency and we want people to rush into buildings.”
2 hr 15 min ago
The shooting took place at the very edge of Brown University in an older part of a building that has “fewer, if any” cameras, leaving police to rely mainly on videos from the neighboring residential area to try to identify the person of interest, Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha said Tuesday.
“There is no footage that depicts this individual that would be useful in identifying him, that we have not released to you,” Neronha said.
“I think you can tell from, frankly, the not-very-helpful quality of the initial footage, that our standard is pretty low,” he said.
2 hr 32 min ago
Brown University President Christina Paxson said Tuesday during a news conference the institution is committed to safety and security.
“The primary point that I wanted to address before we get to questions is that Brown is deeply committed to the safety and security and well-being of our community, and I’ve been deeply saddened to see people questioning that,” Paxson said.
“We understand that as time goes on, there is maybe a natural instinct to assign responsibility for a tragic event like this,” she said.
“Anxiety and fear is very natural, but the shooter is responsible,” Paxson added.
Brown University has 2 security systems that can be activated in an emergency, president says
From CNN's Michelle WatsonBrown University President Christina Paxson said the institution has two security systems that can be activated during an emergency – and one is not used during an active shooting because it would cause a rush of people inside.
“We have two security systems that we can activate in a time of an emergency. One is a system that sends out text messages, phone calls, emails, and it was activated within minutes of the incident. Those messages went out to 20,000 individuals.”
The other alert system, Paxson said, is a siren system.
“There are three sirens placed across campus. Those get activated when there is a broad-scale emergency and we want people to rush into buildings.”
2 hr 15 min ago
Building where the shooting took place was on edge of campus and had "fewer, if any" cameras, AG says
From CNN's Danya GainorThe shooting took place at the very edge of Brown University in an older part of a building that has “fewer, if any” cameras, leaving police to rely mainly on videos from the neighboring residential area to try to identify the person of interest, Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha said Tuesday.
“There is no footage that depicts this individual that would be useful in identifying him, that we have not released to you,” Neronha said.
“I think you can tell from, frankly, the not-very-helpful quality of the initial footage, that our standard is pretty low,” he said.
2 hr 32 min ago
Brown president "deeply saddened" to see people questioning university's commitment to safety
From CNN's Michelle WatsonBrown University President Christina Paxson said Tuesday during a news conference the institution is committed to safety and security.
“The primary point that I wanted to address before we get to questions is that Brown is deeply committed to the safety and security and well-being of our community, and I’ve been deeply saddened to see people questioning that,” Paxson said.
“We understand that as time goes on, there is maybe a natural instinct to assign responsibility for a tragic event like this,” she said.
“Anxiety and fear is very natural, but the shooter is responsible,” Paxson added.
less than 1 min ago
The search for the person of interest has left some wondering: How does someone commit a mass shooting and apparently walk out and disappear?
Mayor Brett Smiley said part of the explanation has to do with security camera coverage and the location of the building where the students were shot.
“Brown is different than maybe some universities in that it is very much integrated with a residential neighborhood,” Smiley said. “This building is on the literal edge of the campus, and the person of interest walked out the door (and) as soon as he stepped onto the sidewalk, was no longer on campus.”
The school’s network of cameras couldn’t follow the suspect into the surrounding neighborhood, Smiley said.
“It’s part of the reason we keep asking for the community’s help so much, is because even though this occurred on campus, the route of travel and all of the video evidence you’ve seen other than that very first video has been video from off campus,” Smiley said.
“The path that we’re following for this person of interest is actually off campus,” the mayor added.
2 hr 1 min ago
Officials will return on Wednesday with further updates on the investigation into Saturday’s mass shooting at Brown University “unless there is a meaningful update,” said Providence Mayor Brett Smiley.
2 hr 14 min ago
Police are still conducting interviews with all the students who were in the classroom where the shooting unfolded Saturday, Providence Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez, Jr. said at a Tuesday news conference.
Video evidence of suspect is limited by university's unique location, mayor says
From CNN's Michelle WatsonThe search for the person of interest has left some wondering: How does someone commit a mass shooting and apparently walk out and disappear?
Mayor Brett Smiley said part of the explanation has to do with security camera coverage and the location of the building where the students were shot.
“Brown is different than maybe some universities in that it is very much integrated with a residential neighborhood,” Smiley said. “This building is on the literal edge of the campus, and the person of interest walked out the door (and) as soon as he stepped onto the sidewalk, was no longer on campus.”
The school’s network of cameras couldn’t follow the suspect into the surrounding neighborhood, Smiley said.
“It’s part of the reason we keep asking for the community’s help so much, is because even though this occurred on campus, the route of travel and all of the video evidence you’ve seen other than that very first video has been video from off campus,” Smiley said.
“The path that we’re following for this person of interest is actually off campus,” the mayor added.
2 hr 1 min ago
Officials will return Wednesday with an update unless there is a “meaningful” development
From CNN's Emma TuckerOfficials will return on Wednesday with further updates on the investigation into Saturday’s mass shooting at Brown University “unless there is a meaningful update,” said Providence Mayor Brett Smiley.
2 hr 14 min ago
Police still interviewing students who were in the classroom where the shooting happened
From CNN's Danya GainorPolice are still conducting interviews with all the students who were in the classroom where the shooting unfolded Saturday, Providence Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez, Jr. said at a Tuesday news conference.
Some of the footage is really bizarre. As some others have pointed out, the time when he is doing what I'd describe as jogging easily down the road. Doing it because he's bored? Trying to "amp" himself up? It's odd.
Likewise, the clip where he sees the other person coming, very abruptly turns around and then hightails it out of there. At first blush you may say, well he doesn't want to be seen. But we have seen him pass others on the sidewalk or in cars and he is wandering around this neighborhood for hours. He's gotta know he will be picked up on Ring cameras and the like and the chance is high he will pass other pedestrians. So what was it about THAT person that made him balk? I know someone upthread suggested he might know them and I thought that was an interesting idea.
I'm curious where and how the study session time and location was communicated. Likely on any private class forums/LMS like Blackboard or whatever they happen to use. Possibly also on the syllabus. Is this something that would likely be hung on a bulletin in the academic building? If someone in that session was the target, the shooter would have to find out about this session somehow. Obviously the person could have told him but I was just thinking through other ways he may find out about it. I don't know that a single person was targeted as I feel there are a lot of other easier places and ways to target an individual than walking into a lecture hall full of people but who knows.
Likewise, the clip where he sees the other person coming, very abruptly turns around and then hightails it out of there. At first blush you may say, well he doesn't want to be seen. But we have seen him pass others on the sidewalk or in cars and he is wandering around this neighborhood for hours. He's gotta know he will be picked up on Ring cameras and the like and the chance is high he will pass other pedestrians. So what was it about THAT person that made him balk? I know someone upthread suggested he might know them and I thought that was an interesting idea.
I'm curious where and how the study session time and location was communicated. Likely on any private class forums/LMS like Blackboard or whatever they happen to use. Possibly also on the syllabus. Is this something that would likely be hung on a bulletin in the academic building? If someone in that session was the target, the shooter would have to find out about this session somehow. Obviously the person could have told him but I was just thinking through other ways he may find out about it. I don't know that a single person was targeted as I feel there are a lot of other easier places and ways to target an individual than walking into a lecture hall full of people but who knows.
2 hr 6 min ago
Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha said it’s really dangerous for people to jump to conclusions and identify possible persons of interest.
When asked about a particular name, Neronha said if the “name meant anything to that investigation, we would be out looking for that person.”
He cautioned that jumping to conclusions was a “really dangerous road to go down.”
“I know that in today’s age, there are lots of things that people read into things,” Neronha said at Tuesday’s news conference. “It’s just a dangerous thing to do, and I would leave it to (law enforcement) to identify persons of interest and let us run them down.”
What the public can do for investigators, he added, is help figure out who the person of interest is.
“We hope to have more information out that will help you do that,” he said.
2 hr 48 min ago
Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha says he is confident in the investigation into Saturday’s mass shooting on Brown University’s campus but urged the public to remain patient.
Rhode Islanders “should take confidence” in the work of the federal, local and state law enforcement and prosecutors on the case who are “veterans of what they do,” Neronha said at the news conference.
“They’re smart, they’re professional and they’re getting the resources from the mayor and the governor that they need, the state police as well, to get this job done and I’m confident they are going to be able to do that. Just need a little bit of patience,” Neronha continued.
The investigation poses challenges, Neronha said, but it’s going smoothly.
“I think the investigation in a case like this, which is a challenging one, is going really well,” Neronha said.
Rhode Island AG asks public to leave identification up to authorities
From CNN's Michelle WatsonRhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha said it’s really dangerous for people to jump to conclusions and identify possible persons of interest.
When asked about a particular name, Neronha said if the “name meant anything to that investigation, we would be out looking for that person.”
He cautioned that jumping to conclusions was a “really dangerous road to go down.”
“I know that in today’s age, there are lots of things that people read into things,” Neronha said at Tuesday’s news conference. “It’s just a dangerous thing to do, and I would leave it to (law enforcement) to identify persons of interest and let us run them down.”
What the public can do for investigators, he added, is help figure out who the person of interest is.
“We hope to have more information out that will help you do that,” he said.
2 hr 48 min ago
Investigators will get job done but public should remain patient, Rhode Island AG says
From CNN's Emma TuckerRhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha says he is confident in the investigation into Saturday’s mass shooting on Brown University’s campus but urged the public to remain patient.
Rhode Islanders “should take confidence” in the work of the federal, local and state law enforcement and prosecutors on the case who are “veterans of what they do,” Neronha said at the news conference.
“They’re smart, they’re professional and they’re getting the resources from the mayor and the governor that they need, the state police as well, to get this job done and I’m confident they are going to be able to do that. Just need a little bit of patience,” Neronha continued.
The investigation poses challenges, Neronha said, but it’s going smoothly.
“I think the investigation in a case like this, which is a challenging one, is going really well,” Neronha said.
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Revised map based on the new videos:
It's tricky to show directions without getting a lot more involved, but I tried to include general directionality in the title along with the time of the sighting. Of note, he appears to have walked up Hope towards Lot 42 at 1453 and disappeared for a little over an hour before the shooting. He also went east on George several times, just to return back to the general perimeter he was making. Makes me think there was something somewhat significant to him a little ways down George.
It's tricky to show directions without getting a lot more involved, but I tried to include general directionality in the title along with the time of the sighting. Of note, he appears to have walked up Hope towards Lot 42 at 1453 and disappeared for a little over an hour before the shooting. He also went east on George several times, just to return back to the general perimeter he was making. Makes me think there was something somewhat significant to him a little ways down George.
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If he didn't want to enter a campus building or a business in the hours before the shooting, perhaps he used an area with dense shrubbery or garden walls to conceal himself while using the site as an outdoor toilet. Perhaps he ran because he thought someone saw him doing that, which could result in an arrest.
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That’s excellent. What do you make of the bag being visible in some footage and not others?
3 min ago
The family of a Brown University student killed in Saturday’s mass shooting wants people to know their son’s name and photo rather than seeing him as another statistic, his sister said.
MukhammadAziz Umurzokov, 18, had “real ambitions, goals and aspirations like anyone else would,” said his sister, Samira Umurzokova.
Her brother, a first-year student at Brown, was one of two students killed in the attack.
“He never took anything for granted, ever… Him and the other victim, they’re not just numbers, they’re not just statistics,” Umurzokova said.
She said nearly 100 people have reached out in the wake of the tragedy, sharing photos and heartfelt stories about her brother.
“It just sort of reinforces his character in my head,” Umurzokova told CNN’s Anderson Cooper. “He touched so many people in such a little amount of time.”
Family of Brown student killed in mass shooting says he is not a statistic, wants people to remember him as “a real person”
From CNN's Emma TuckerThe family of a Brown University student killed in Saturday’s mass shooting wants people to know their son’s name and photo rather than seeing him as another statistic, his sister said.
MukhammadAziz Umurzokov, 18, had “real ambitions, goals and aspirations like anyone else would,” said his sister, Samira Umurzokova.
Her brother, a first-year student at Brown, was one of two students killed in the attack.
“He never took anything for granted, ever… Him and the other victim, they’re not just numbers, they’re not just statistics,” Umurzokova said.
She said nearly 100 people have reached out in the wake of the tragedy, sharing photos and heartfelt stories about her brother.
“It just sort of reinforces his character in my head,” Umurzokova told CNN’s Anderson Cooper. “He touched so many people in such a little amount of time.”
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I’m guessing he grabbed it after his final trip down George, which makes me even more suspicious of him having a car or something down that way.
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I'm very curious why he was so defensive about one person being mentioned. This person was tipped in it seems and they don't even want to talk to him? Says they need help IDing the suspect, but then says leave that up to us.
I wish he would have been half as defensive about the man they held for 24 hours who was also blasted online. All we got was it was a tip that lead to him and he was released and cleared. 24 hours is a long time to hold someone, and they won't even talk to someone else that was tipped in?
IMO
3 hr 14 min ago
The search for the suspect in Saturday’s mass shooting involves canvassing a grid that begins with Brown University’s campus and then expands outward, said Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha.
It’s “entirely possible” Wednesday the teams “be canvassing places that we haven’t canvassed yet” because they will be working in an outward direction, Neronha said at the news conference.
3 hr 45 min ago
Police say the new videos show the person of interest “casing the area” in the residential neighborhood next to Brown University hours before the shooting on Saturday, Providence Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez, Jr. said.
“That’s what criminals do prior to committing a crime,” Perez said at a Tuesday news conference.
4 hr 1 min ago
Police are asking those who live in the residential block near Waterman Avenue and Hope Street in Providence to submit video footage from any type of camera system they may have, including from equipped vehicles such as Teslas, going as far back as “at least a week,” Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez Jr. said in a Tuesday news conference.
Search teams will likely canvass new areas Wednesday because they are working outward from university
From CNN's Emma TuckerThe search for the suspect in Saturday’s mass shooting involves canvassing a grid that begins with Brown University’s campus and then expands outward, said Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha.
It’s “entirely possible” Wednesday the teams “be canvassing places that we haven’t canvassed yet” because they will be working in an outward direction, Neronha said at the news conference.
3 hr 45 min ago
Person of interest seen on video "casing the area" hours before Saturday's shooting, police say
From CNN's Danya GainorPolice say the new videos show the person of interest “casing the area” in the residential neighborhood next to Brown University hours before the shooting on Saturday, Providence Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez, Jr. said.
“That’s what criminals do prior to committing a crime,” Perez said at a Tuesday news conference.
4 hr 1 min ago
Police ask for security video, including from Teslas, from residential block near Brown University
From CNN's Danya GainorPolice are asking those who live in the residential block near Waterman Avenue and Hope Street in Providence to submit video footage from any type of camera system they may have, including from equipped vehicles such as Teslas, going as far back as “at least a week,” Chief of Police Oscar L. Perez Jr. said in a Tuesday news conference.
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Very calm behaviour. Do first responders’ vehicles routinely have high-quality, forward-facing cameras?
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