RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

[Rosydecember]

here it is. you can see a triangular object or three small objects clustered together on his chest. also, some kind of v-neck looking pattern.

might help rule in or rule out specific products.

Interesting you mention the v-neck pattern…
As I noticed it on this second person of interest….

 

[apeXperience]

Your post gave me an idea - what if the perp chose Saturday based on HIS schedule? Maybe he's not available on weekdays to commit murder.

jmopinion.

Your opinion in turn triggered some thoughts and questions.

• Sunday could be inefficient because not many of the targeted people would be on campus due to traditional lifestyle obligations such as going to church?
• Monday through Thursday could be inconvenient if the murderer(s) works day jobs whereas timecards are used such that slaking may cause relatively significant loss of revenue
• May be, Friday could be for prayers or for community socialization for the murderer(s)?
• May be Saturday is targeted because it is an important day of the week for some people who are very interested about studying successfully economics and assiduous about attending the university including in weekends

All of these are IMHO, but that is sleuthing for. We homo sapiens communicate efficiently and collaborate effectively much more successfully than all other mammals.

 

[Rosydecember]

I haven’t watched all the videos… but do any of the videos actually show both the suspect and the person of interest witness together? Im only asking as I’m wondering if it could be the same person? moo

 

[Inthedetails]

I haven’t watched all the videos… but do any of the videos actually show both the suspect and the person of interest together? Im only asking as I’m wondering if it could be the same person? moo

There is a video that shows two people. There are indeed two people, imo.

jmo

 

[LAborn]

Interesting you mention the v-neck pattern…
As I noticed it on this second person of interest….

This is not a POI.

 

[Rosydecember]

This is not a POI.

Thank you— corrected my mistake to say witness

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001674505161228704

 

[Facinatingtimes]

There is a video that shows two people. There are indeed two people, imo.

jmo

https://kfor.com/video/fbi-boston-shares-surveillance-footage-of-unidentified-suspect-in-connection-with-brown-university-shooting/11355725

At about 1:56 in this FBI video - shows the 2 people.

 

[Dotta]

"Blood donation center sees ​

'deeply moving' response from students following shooting at Brown.​

The Providence community,
most notably students,
poured into local blood donation centers on Saturday in an 'immediate and deeply moving' response
in the hours following the deadly shooting at Brown University,
according to the Rhode Island Blood Center.

'Students walked through snow,
rerouted themselves to other donor centers,
and even chose triple platelet donations
when they learned how their blood types would help patients the most a spokesperson for the center said.

'That immediate surge helped stabilize the blood supply at a critical moment
and ensured hospitals had what they needed',
the spokesperson noted."

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/brown-university-shooting-suspect-12-18-25

 

[JennieM]

21 min ago

News conference on the Brown University shooting probe expected at 4 p.m. ET​

From CNN's Danny Freeman and Rebekah Riess

Officials are expected to hold a news conference on the Brown University shooting investigation at 4 p.m. ET today, according to the office of Providence Mayor Brett Smiley.

The news conference comes as authorities continue the manhunt for the perpetrator of Saturday’s deadly mass shooting.

Law enforcement officials continue sifting through hundreds of tips and taking DNA swabs as police have also asked the public for helpidentifying someone seen in a photo crossing paths with the person of interest in the case.

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/brown-university-shooting-suspect-12-18-25

 

[Charlot123]

I'm dipping in and out of this thread so may have missed this point, but if the gunman had a beard part of the purpose of the mask could have been to hide the fact and also make it less likely for a beard hair to have been left at the scene.

If a beard (or head) hair was left, that could be the source of the DNA they have.

I am not sure that any hair was left, but everyone knows about hair so he probably took extra precautions. Anyhow, I think that he has some odd hair on the face and that his lower part of the face looks very different without all such covers. Initially I thought a receding chin and a thick neck might look like “chin in the middle of the neck” and I know such people - it is a very definitive trait. But now I wonder if he has a beard that when out, totally changes the face. A mask is not impossible too.

On a totally another side, we don’t know the gender. If the person has breasts then sometimes bandaging them might end up looking like a “think midriff”. JMO. I am not sure if the person aimed at making themselves look more obese but masqueraded something in the lower chest/upper abdomen.

 

[LAhiker]

What we can see of this individual's eyes has bothered me right from the first pic. IMO, they seem very tiny and too small and narrow set in relation to the size of his face and general body structure. I wondered if he was possibly wearing a face mask in addition to the usual black Covid type mask .

In this photo on the left if you zoom in or enlarge it:

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image from https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/br...nt-12-15-25?post-id=cmj7skzzj0000356p43s8iti5

you can see the bottom and top black elastics that come horizontally off the black medical mask at chin level and ear level, but there appears to be some other kind of straps between the top of the black medi mask and the toque.

I also noticed what seems to be a discoloured (?) thickness around the neck area below the black medi mask and at one point thought he might be wearing some type of cowl neck scarf or turtleneck. Am now wondering if they are sporting on of those uber realistic face masks with the other masks overlaid.

Cropped and enlarged from the above left image:

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If this has been discussed before, my apologies as we don't get to read every single thing.

I wondered about his eyes too. At one point, someone suggested that those could be his eyebrows, but if so, where are his eyes?

If he's wearing a silicone mask under his Covid type mask, I'm still wondering -- why are the eyes so close together? Could the mask be too small, or his face be thinner than it appears to be? For him to see out of such a mask, wouldn't his eyes have to be in the same place as the mask's eye holes?

After seeing your post, like many, I wondered whether his belly is real. It looks real to me -- I know guys with a similar build -- but who knows. One thing that has confused me is that he seems thinner in some photos than in others. That could just be camera angles or aspect ratios. (A variable size doesn't make sense in terms either of a real belly or a fake belly, unless it's fake and he can put things in it. That seems unlikely, but who knows.)

If he's lighter than he appears to be, that might explain his ease in movement and running, but then again, one can be both fit and heavy.

If he's wearing a silicone mask and/or a fake belly, I would expect that he might try to adjust them at some point. (But I don't know for sure, as I've never worn such things.) In any event, I haven't seen him do that on the publicly accessible videos.

ETA: And yes, I also wonder about the PIP (Person in Proximity). If they are a close associate of the POI, they could also be in disguise, which might explain some of their contradictory-seeming characteristics.

JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

I wondered about his eyes too. At one point, someone suggested that those could be his eyebrows, but if so, where are his eyes?

If he's wearing a silicone mask under his Covid type mask, I'm still wondering -- why are the eyes so close together? Could the mask be too small, or his face be thinner than it appears to be? For him to see out of such a mask, wouldn't his eyes have to be in the same place as the mask's eye holes?

After seeing your post, like many, I wondered whether his belly is real. It looks real to me -- I know guys with a similar build -- but who knows. One thing that has confused me is that he seems thinner in some photos than in others. That could just be camera angles or aspect ratios. (A variable size doesn't make sense in terms either of a real belly or a fake belly, unless it's fake and he can put things in it. That seems unlikely, but who knows.)

If he's lighter than he appears to be, that might explain his ease in movement and running, but then again, one can be both fit and heavy.

If he's wearing a silicone mask and/or a fake belly, I would expect that he might try to adjust them at some point. (But I don't know for sure, as I've never worn such things.) In any event, I haven't seen him do that on the publicly accessible videos.

ETA: And yes, I also wonder about the PIP (Person in Proximity). If they are a close associate of the POI, they could also be in disguise, which might explain some of their contradictory-seeming characteristics.

JMO

Sorry, if already discussed, just jumping on, re beer belly.
Yes, I thought fake beer belly, plus padded ice hockey shorts. Fake beer belly gives the obvious
protruding belly, appearance to throw off cops( these can be “empty”, to put an entire 12 pack of beer in, straw to mouth. Still empty in this case?) Also, padded ice hockey shorts, gives the appearance of lower abdomen” love handles, muffin top”, plus thick thighs, buttocks.

If it is a fake belly, maybe uneven weight, maybe why leaning back( balance), hands behind back, not 100% comfortable, adjusting to the unbalanced weight. Can run ok. Take off all later to be “ thin”, no belly, so not easily identified by cops.

 

[O.Incandenza]

Curious, the after route "red line" on Waterman, has LE released any video of POI from ring or other source? I don't think so but just checking as there has been multiple releases. It appears that this street is more downhill on Waterman in the direction "after" 4:03PM than some of the other streets in released video..may be wrong but it appears that way on Google Earth. jmo

The 'after' sightings make me doubt the reddit tip somewhat. If his car was really parked where they say it was, then he would have had to circle back around to get to it. And that should have put him on some of the cameras that captured him before the shooting. But LE apparently doesn't see him on any of those cameras after the shooting.

 

[Lebowski]

I wondered about his eyes too. At one point, someone suggested that those could be his eyebrows, but if so, where are his eyes?

If he's wearing a silicone mask under his Covid type mask, I'm still wondering -- why are the eyes so close together? Could the mask be too small, or his face be thinner than it appears to be? For him to see out of such a mask, wouldn't his eyes have to be in the same place as the mask's eye holes?

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i think what i'm seeing in that head-on picture is glasses/goggles just above the edge of the mask, and dark eyebrows above that. not sure though. and if (as reported) the TA made eye contact with him, i think glasses would have been mentioned, and i don't think they were.

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After seeing your post, like many, I wondered whether his belly is real. It looks real to me -- I know guys with a similar build -- but who knows. One thing that has confused me is that he seems thinner in some photos than in others. That could just be camera angles or aspect ratios. (A variable size doesn't make sense in terms either of a real belly or a fake belly, unless it's fake and he can put things in it. That seems unlikely, but who knows.)

If he's lighter than he appears to be, that might explain his ease in movement and running, but then again, one can be both fit and heavy.

If he's wearing a silicone mask and/or a fake belly, I would expect that he might try to adjust them at some point. (But I don't know for sure, as I've never worn such things.) In any event, I haven't seen him do that on the publicly accessible videos.

ETA: And yes, I also wonder about the PIP (Person in Proximity). If they are a close associate of the POI, they could also be in disguise, which might explain some of their contradictory-seeming characteristics.

JMO

i'm mildly skeptical that he had a fake belly, belly prosthetic, or whatever. if you believe the theory that person #2 recognized POI, the only thing person #2 would have to go on are his clothing and his build. his face and everything else were covered up. putting something under your shirt to make you look obese so it's harder for people to recognize you would also have the effect of making it harder for person #2 to recognize you.

it's not a rock solid argument, i realize. i'm not necessarily wedded to it. but that's what comes to mind.

 

[Skigh]

i think what i'm seeing in that head-on picture is glasses/goggles just above the edge of the mask, and dark eyebrows above that. not sure though. and if (as reported) the TA made eye contact with him, i think glasses would have been mentioned, and i don't think they were.



i'm mildly skeptical that he had a fake belly, belly prosthetic, or whatever. if you believe the theory that person #2 recognized POI, the only thing person #2 would have to go on are his clothing and his build. his face and everything else were covered up. putting something under your shirt to make you look obese so it's harder for people to recognize you would also have the effect of making it harder for person #2 to recognize you.

it's not a rock solid argument, i realize. i'm not necessarily wedded to it. but that's what comes to mind.

Person #2 might have been with him when he experimented with things to disguise his figure or knew in advance he would be disguised.

 

[Sillybilly]

This student made eye contact with the shooter. I feel like he would have said he was wearing a mask. It does seem like there was something under his jacket.

<rsbm>

The whole idea of the realistic face masks is that people can't tell you are wearing one. Just a couple of random examples:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1366603491299927

 

[Auntie Cipation]

in one of the renderings of this front photo, i think i saw a triangular doohickey on his chest. possibly a big zipper handle? but i wasn't sure it wasn't just some pixellation illusion.

I saw it too, and at first thought it was a brand logo, but it was faint, wasn't there in other photos, and extensive googling on my part did not find it as a brand logo

I decided it was either a trick of the light with the camera or possibly part of the LE watermark (though I didn't see it again on other photos).

I also noticed that most logos are not centered but off to one side -- this makes sense as it would work for zip-up jackets too whereas a centered logo would only work for pullovers. MOO

 

[justtrish]

The 'after' sightings make me doubt the reddit tip somewhat. If his car was really parked where they say it was, then he would have had to circle back around to get to it. And that should have put him on some of the cameras that captured him before the shooting. But LE apparently doesn't see him on any of those cameras after the shooting.

So, I think several things on this topic.

1. he could have changed or taken off some clothing and came back to that location looking very different and got in his car and drove off.

2. he could have moved that car before the shooting. We do not know what time the person on reddit saw the person and the car. When he circles back around to that area, he is missing from any cameras for roughly 30 minutes. he could have gotten in a car and drove off during that time.

3. person 2 they want to speak with if there is any connection or involvement, could have moved the car (perhaps an exchange of keys was happening when they were running from each other

4. LE might not want to disclose some details so it doesn't narrow down the tips being called in. If they said he got in a car at xyz place and time people may not pay attention to camera footage from times outside that. Also, if they know he got into a car and as the reddit post said it was Florida plates and a Nissan sedan. well, that being kept quiet might be helping to track the car, so he doesn't panic and change plates or ditch the car, etc. If there is any merit to that tip, I think we might hear something at the press conference today.

IMO

 

[vereb]

The 'after' sightings make me doubt the reddit tip somewhat. If his car was really parked where they say it was, then he would have had to circle back around to get to it. And that should have put him on some of the cameras that captured him before the shooting. But LE apparently doesn't see him on any of those cameras after the shooting.

Someone else might have moved it though.