RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

[nhmemorymaker]

The talented professor in Boston who was killed was from Portugal too. This change in policy seems like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

jmopinion

of course it does. The program has worked for decades.

 

[TexLil]

Going through all the surveillance photos in the affidavit... I always found it interesting that during the press conferences, officials repeatedly asked for surveillance footage, including any Tesla dashcam footage. I always thought it was interesting that they specifically mentioned Teslas.

Well, at 4:06PM the day of the shooting, it looks there was nearly an accident with CV and a dark colored Tesla that nearly hit him. Maybe the police were hoping that Tesla driver would come forward? Try and pull a license plate from the dashcam? Why not ask for that specifically, though?

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I'm behind but i always thought police said this because nearly all Teslas have dash cams? Or Tesla has the most vehicles with dash cams? MOO

 

[justtrish]

From the affidavits and press conferences (I forget which had what) we know that he was enrolled in the same physics program in Portugal as the MIT victim, from 1995-2000. They were there at the exact same time, and are believed to have known one another.

Following that, he was enrolled at Brown from the fall of 2000 to the spring of 2001, took a leave of absence in April 2001, and formally withdrew in July 2003.

I'm not sure we know what he had been doing since then.

As to your first part, I do tink he probably completed his list. Following the murder of the professor, he headed straight to the storage unit and never left. He was likely dead 3 days ago.

I wonder what happened in his life in the spring of 2001? We all know what happened in the US in September of 2001. I wonder if that contributed to him offically withdrawing in 2003. Maybe a family situation or even a mental health situation for him in the spring caused the leave of absence and he fully intended to return, but many people struggled after 9/11.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Sometimes, what's not being said is more interesting than what is. What has Claudio Valente been doing for the last 25 years? There doesn't seem to be anything on any media source, which seems rather strange, because you would think that the entire news media would be looking for background info on his past, but nobody has published anything. No former colleagues seem to have contacted the press about him. Nothing.

Even after dropping out of Brown, he still had a good degree from a good university back in Portugal. He should have been able to use that to get a foot in the door somewhere. So, what has he been doing?

It certainly does feel like a huge vacuum, doesn't it?
It will be interesting to see what all drops in over the next days.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

The talented professor in Boston who was killed was from Portugal too. This change in policy seems like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

jmopinion

Agreed. Clearly an ulterior motive is at play if you're willing to prohibit brilliant minds like Dr. Loureiro from coming to this country to engage in scientific research.

 

[Elley Mae]

Neves Valente and Loureiro previously attended the same academic program at a university in Portugal between 1995 and 2000, U.S. attorney for Massachusetts Leah B. Foley said. Loureiro graduated from the physics program at Instituto Superior Técnico, Portugal’s premier engineering school, in 2000, according to his MIT faculty page. The same year, Neves Valente was let go from a position at the Lisbon university, according to an archive of a termination notice from the school’s then-president in February 2000.

Man suspected in Brown University shooting and MIT professor’s killing is found dead, officials say

Officials say a man who is suspected in last weekend’s mass shooting at Brown University and in the fatal shooting of a Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor has been found dead in a New Hampshire storage facility.

apnews.com

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He was let go from his job at lisbon university,

 

[TexLil]

Not caught up but IF CV's strongest/most direct grudge was with the MIT professor it's surprising to me that he committed the atrocity at Brown first. IMO the vast majority of active shooters don't make it out which would have prevented him from going to MIT for his next target. MOO

 

[Megnut]

Not caught up but IF CV's strongest/most direct grudge was with the MIT professor it's surprising to me that he committed the atrocity at Brown first. IMO the vast majority of active shooters don't make it out which would have prevented him from going to MIT for his next target. MOO

Maybe Brown is the job he thought he should have so he was intent on taking out a whole classroom, regardless of who was teaching it.

Such utter disregard for life.

JMO

 

[m00c0w]

Agreed. Clearly an ulterior motive is at play if you're willing to prohibit brilliant minds like Dr. Loureiro from coming to this country to engage in scientific research.

That is objectively the wrong type of visa for students or highly skilled workers. Both CV and Loureiro came in on F-1 student visas. When CV dropped out of school, he became ineligible to stay in the country on the visa. The diversity visa program was probably his only shot at staying in the US without an advanced degree. In contrast, Loureiro probably transitioned directly to an employment visa within his field of research and was able to stay with zero issues and not much luck or chance involved.

It’s honestly probably part of CV’s resentment.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Neves Valente and Loureiro previously attended the same academic program at a university in Portugal between 1995 and 2000, U.S. attorney for Massachusetts Leah B. Foley said. Loureiro graduated from the physics program at Instituto Superior Técnico, Portugal’s premier engineering school, in 2000, according to his MIT faculty page. The same year, Neves Valente was let go from a position at the Lisbon university, according to an archive of a termination notice from the school’s then-president in February 2000.

Man suspected in Brown University shooting and MIT professor’s killing is found dead, officials say

Officials say a man who is suspected in last weekend’s mass shooting at Brown University and in the fatal shooting of a Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor has been found dead in a New Hampshire storage facility.

apnews.com

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He was let go from his job at lisbon university,

But we do still have this huge vacuum between 2001 and 2017. AND 2017 til now!!

Big puzzle. Missing pieces.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

That is objectively the wrong type of visa for students or highly skilled workers. Both CV and Loureiro came in on F-1 student visas. When CV dropped out of school, he became ineligible to stay in the country on the visa. The diversity visa program was probably his only shot at staying in the US without an advanced degree. In contrast, Loureiro probably transitioned directly to an employment visa within his field of research and was able to stay with zero issues and not much luck or chance involved.

It’s honestly probably part of CV’s resentment.

We really DO have to keep the visa information straight and clear.... so thanks for this post.
Clearly the F-1 would expire for CV. And clearly Loureiro would easily get an employment visa.

But where in the H has CV been for the past 25 years?
As I say... Big puzzle, missing pieces! ha.

@m00c0w ... I hope you do keep us on our toes regarding visas!

 

[Elley Mae]

But we do still have this huge vacuum between 2001 and 2017. AND 2017 til now!!

Big puzzle. Missing pieces.

Hoping some info on him from florida comes to light

 

[Inthedetails]

That is objectively the wrong type of visa for students or highly skilled workers. Both CV and Loureiro came in on F-1 student visas. When CV dropped out of school, he became ineligible to stay in the country on the visa. The diversity visa program was probably his only shot at staying in the US without an advanced degree. In contrast, Loureiro probably transitioned directly to an employment visa within his field of research and was able to stay with zero issues and not much luck or chance involved.

It’s honestly probably part of CV’s resentment.

Good point. Thanks.

 

[Telltale]

Not caught up but IF CV's strongest/most direct grudge was with the MIT professor it's surprising to me that he committed the atrocity at Brown first. IMO the vast majority of active shooters don't make it out which would have prevented him from going to MIT for his next target. MOO

Makes no sense.

He spends two weeks lurking around Brown, that was his big showpiece. He couldn't have reasonably expected to escape after the attack, but by pure luck he gets away clean and unidentified. But he didn't kill himself at that point. He waits two whole days, pops out to kill NL, almost like it's an afterthought... or a bonus. He gets away clean and unidentified that time as well. No significant connection made between the killings yet. But (it seems) he went back to his unit and killed himself shortly after. As if his work was done.

It makes NL seem both an afterthought and the final task.

Maybe I'm the crazy one expecting rational thought from this guy.

 

[Elley Mae]

Authorities said Neves Valente left the United States, but did not disclose when. He returned in September 2017 at JFK airport in New York. He was issued a diversity immigrant visa a few months prior, and attained permanent legal residency.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article313823019.html

 

[Curiousobserver]

I'm behind but i always thought police said this because nearly all Teslas have dash cams? Or Tesla has the most vehicles with dash cams? MOO

Tesla have dashcams that run while you're driving and while parked many user turn on Sentry mode. Sentry mode records all the exterior cameras and is activated by motion, such as when someone walks past your car. If I had parked my Tesla on one of those side streets, I would have had video of every time that perp walked past my car.

 

[Elley Mae]

The custodian recalled seeing a suspicious person with a surgical mask, wearing the same clothing shown in released images of the suspect, and walking with a limp twice, on Nov. 28 and Dec. 1.

Claudio Neves Valente: What to know about the Brown, MIT shooter

The 48-year-old Portuguese national was a student at Brown 25 years ago and was seen at the Barus & Holley building as early as Nov. 28.

www.providencejournal.com

According to the affidavit, the custodian said that the suspicious person had entered the Barus & Holley building on the Hope Street side on one occasion and immediately entered a ground-level bathroom across from Room 166.

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More at link.

 

[m00c0w]

Authorities said Neves Valente left the United States, but did not disclose when. He returned in September 2017 at JFK airport in New York. He was issued a diversity immigrant visa a few months prior, and attained permanent legal residency.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article313823019.html

Very interesting. So I wonder if he did return to Portugal after dropping out of Brown, and it took him at least 15 years to get back to the US.

 

[cujenn81]

I believe distributing reward money, and who gets what amount of reward money, is a formal process and isn't something that can be decided by one person. And it has to meet specific requirements in order to be doled out.

For example, during the Luigi Mangione case, the Mcdonalds Worker who called him in didn't get any of the $10,000 reward money offered by the NYPD because he called 911, NOT the tipline, to report the tip.

I agree. And the reward specifically said $50K for information that leads to the identification, arrest, and conviction of the suspect. It’s incredibly frustrating and BS if you ask me.

I believe distributing reward money, and who gets what amount of reward money, is a formal process and isn't something that can be decided by one person. And it has to meet specific requirements in order to be doled out.

For example, during the Luigi Mangione case, the Mcdonalds Worker who called him in didn't get any of the $10,000 reward money offered by the NYPD because he called 911, NOT the tipline, to report the tip.

I agree. And the reward specifically said $50K for information that leads to the identification, arrest, and conviction of the suspect. It’s incredibly frustrating and BS if you ask me.

 

[CLGM]

Surmising based on working in academic/student services in the university world for many years, my suspicion is that he was put on probation at Brown or perhaps asked to leave (if there was problematic behavior or something) -- that was the genesis of long-harbored animosity towards Brown, specifically the department he was in. Shooting up a classroom, to him, became a way to extract revenge. And then the other piece with the MIT professor -- I wonder if he and the shooter had conflict of some kind when in school together, which resulted in CV being terminated from his position.... which contributed to that long held hatred. Maybe CV only realized recently that both of the targets who he blamed failure to achieve in his career on were in the same area. Maybe he had a marriage that had failed also in this interim period. Severe untreated mental health issues plus inadequate availability of treatment plus unchecked access to guns = bad outcome. We've done this experiment so many times...

(ETA: my son was in the shooting at MSU in 2023, so these always bring back that night. He was in an adjacent building and was safe. The shooter was mentally ill and walked in off the street; he died by suicide just before the police apprehended him a couple of hours later. In this case at Brown, the building should not have been unlocked to the public.)