RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

[Charlot123]

one of the portuguese articles said this



bbm, sbm

assuming that means romantically (and this isn't just some translation issue), this is the only reference i've seen to that side of his life. throughout this, i've had the impression he was mostly or entirely unsuccessful with intimate partners, was probably bitter about it, and i'm guessing it played a role here, at least indirectly.

Could be the opposite: as a young person, he found an older partner. We don’t know his interests, but let’s assume, straight. A 23-year-old guy dating a 43-year-old woman, with experience, already with kids, who does not require that much time and could be thankful for some support. That could last for very long, you know. I sometimes wonder if he took time off Brown because he missed the person and wanted to get back.

BTW, his different presentations at Brown and back home could be due to precisely this: away and frustrated or “back with someone”, satisfied and not mean.

His dad is 91. Mom is likely younger; she is being interviewed. I suppose, dad’s second wife? Or did parents simply marry in older age? Dad was 43 when Claudio was born.

It is not implausible that lack of contact with the parents had to do with Claudio being in a relationship that they didn’t expect for him. For example, same-sex, or a woman from another social circle, or an older woman (no grandchildren for them in the cards), or someone else that they won’t accept.

In short, I am not so sure that he used to be alone all these years. The person could have died and he moved to the US then, this is highly possible.

One more thing; his parents are older and alive, meaning, he has good genes. Yet he looked older than his age on all photos. I thought it was biology but I am not so sure now. Claudio looks two decades older than Nuno. Yet he was 48 with dad who is 91.

Thoughts?

 

[Sundog]

dbm

 

[wibbleflea]

Paywalled article, just brief descriptions available under the title.

Fox News rewrite that’s not behind a paywall:

Brown University custodian told security suspicious man was ‘casing’ building weeks before shooting: report

Derek Lisi told Boston Globe he saw Brown University shooting suspect "casing" engineering building about 10 times since early January.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Arkay]

occasionally infatuated with someone

one of the portuguese articles said this



bbm, sbm

assuming that means romantically (and this isn't just some translation issue), this is the only reference i've seen to that side of his life. throughout this, i've had the impression he was mostly or entirely unsuccessful with intimate partners, was probably bitter about it, and i'm guessing it played a role here, at least indirectly.

Yes, perhaps he was an incel, or perhaps his infatuation was with other men, and I don’t know but I imagine Portugal is perhaps conservative on that issue.

Something locked this man into 20 years of self-exile, from his parents and eventually from Portugal as well.

Maybe he truly did see Brown as where he’d fit in, and yet though he had a decent IT job, he was not the nuclear physicist that Loureiro became.

It’s all very strange. Burning hatred, clearly. Two disparate targets. Then suicide.

JMO and speculation.

 

[Charlot123]

Fox News rewrite that’s not behind a paywall:

Brown University custodian told security suspicious man was ‘casing’ building weeks before shooting: report

Derek Lisi told Boston Globe he saw Brown University shooting suspect "casing" engineering building about 10 times since early January.

www.foxnews.com

Bureaucracy. Now Brown will spend a lot of money on external consultants, while all they needed to do was to listen in November-December to their own janitor.

 

[Lusitana]

one of the portuguese articles said this



bbm, sbm

assuming that means romantically (and this isn't just some translation issue), this is the only reference i've seen to that side of his life. throughout this, i've had the impression he was mostly or entirely unsuccessful with intimate partners, was probably bitter about it, and i'm guessing it played a role here, at least indirectly.

Yes, that means romantically interested. A crush, being interested in someone, etc.

Could be the opposite: as a young person, he found an older partner. We don’t know his interests, but let’s assume, straight. A 23-year-old guy dating a 43-year-old woman, with experience, already with kids, who does not require that much time and could be thankful for some support. That could last for very long, you know. I sometimes wonder if he took time off Brown because he missed the person and wanted to get back.

BTW, his different presentations at Brown and back home could be due to precisely this: away and frustrated or “back with someone”, satisfied and not mean.

His dad is 91. Mom is likely younger; she is being interviewed. I suppose, dad’s second wife? Or did parents simply marry in older age? Dad was 43 when Claudio was born.

It is not implausible that lack of contact with the parents had to do with Claudio being in a relationship that they didn’t expect for him. For example, same-sex, or a woman from another social circle, or an older woman (no grandchildren for them in the cards), or someone else that they won’t accept.

In short, I am not so sure that he used to be alone all these years. The person could have died and he moved to the US then, this is highly possible.

One more thing; his parents are older and alive, meaning, he has good genes. Yet he looked older than his age on all photos. I thought it was biology but I am not so sure now. Claudio looks two decades older than Nuno. Yet he was 48 with dad who is 91.

Thoughts?

The average life expectancy in Portugal is 81,17 years old. So while 91 is a great age, it's not that shocking. In the US the average life expectancy is 77,6 years old for reference.

Yes, perhaps he was an incel, or perhaps his infatuation was with other men, and I don’t know but I imagine Portugal is perhaps conservative on that issue.

Something locked this man into 20 years of self-exile, from his parents and eventually from Portugal as well.

Maybe he truly did see Brown as where he’d fit in, and yet though he had a decent IT job, he was not the nuclear physicist that Loureiro became.

It’s all very strange. Burning hatred, clearly. Two disparate targets. Then suicide.

JMO and speculation.

Portugal is not a conservative country, not about same-sex relationships or much of anything else, actually. Same sex marriage has been legal in Portugal since 2010, 5 years earlier than the US. So, while I don't know if his parents were very conservative, the country generally really isn't and same sex couples are usually fine to live their lives freely.

 

[Sundog]

Fox News rewrite that’s not behind a paywall:

Brown University custodian told security suspicious man was ‘casing’ building weeks before shooting: report

Derek Lisi told Boston Globe he saw Brown University shooting suspect "casing" engineering building about 10 times since early January.

www.foxnews.com

According to this article -

"A Brown University custodian claims he saw the shooting suspect almost a dozen times in the weeks before the Dec. 13 attack on campus and even alerted a campus security guard."

Does that mean he reported the sightings to campus police? Is that who he is referring to when he says he alerted a campus "security guard? " It would be good to know more about these sightings and how the custodian reported them, if he reported them to campus police.

ETA: The custodian also says that the sightings of CV go back as early as January 2025, according to this article.

 

[Charlot123]

Yes, perhaps he was an incel, or perhaps his infatuation was with other men, and I don’t know but I imagine Portugal is perhaps conservative on that issue.

Something locked this man into 20 years of self-exile, from his parents and eventually from Portugal as well.

Maybe he truly did see Brown as where he’d fit in, and yet though he had a decent IT job, he was not the nuclear physicist that Loureiro became.

It’s all very strange. Burning hatred, clearly. Two disparate targets. Then suicide.

JMO and speculation.

That we don’t know. He was in Portugal. How do we know if he was alone? He made good money. A socially awkward man who can provide has chances, unless he is a miser. It is possible that he had some kind of a relationship. Maybe not what his parents wanted, but he was not a total loser there.

I traveled to Portugal. It is a Catholic country for Catholics, but many people there are atheist/agnostic. Especially in large cities. It appears very safe. People are quiet. Food, indeed, is good, much better than in Spain IMHO. Not only fish. Bread, too.

It didn’t seem conservative to me. Just polite and quiet. Beautiful buildings. A normal European country.

So I won’t bet on “self-imposed exile”.