Ron C. # 11

[elle1919]

I signed on this afternoon because I was busy last night and could not devote much time to the TES and Negame returning thread. I am very disappointed that the nitpicking and etc got to the point that the thread had to be closed. What is there to nitpick about? Who cares who asked TES to come back. Anyone that is nitpicking over this situation and supporting anyone that wants to take credit for a new search for Haleigh is not at all interested in finding Haleigh in my opinion.

TES is coming back, it is celebration time people not a time to nitpick. Sheesh.

 

[elle1919]

Just went back and read the thread that got closed and I am almost speechless. It is clear to me why it was closed. I was going to come over here and post something that probably would have earned me my first timeout....lol. But I will follow the advice I give to my children and turn the other cheek and say God Bless Haleigh and RC and CS, the grandmothers and granddaddys's and aunts and uncles because that is Haleigh's family and that is who wanted TES to come.

I hope "our" little family here at WS can get it's act together by Monday cause this is the only place I am a member and it would mean a lot to be able to share the press conference and up to the minute news with all of you.

 

[texasmommy39]

Pretty sure that money had to be paid to RC through County...not directly. I hope she had guidance on that.

PURE SPECULATION HERE:

It is still likely RC is on assistance and has been. Haleigh qualified for SSDI and I don't see him passing up on that.

The judge may have had the custody support money and the state support money combined and she was paying for half of the State costs for RC and kids. If he were to have ever retained a job that had benefits, her monthly payments may have been reduced. If she had a good job or marries, her payments increase.....MO.

If he wasn't then he damn well needs them now. Loosing his job because of rumors is going to bite PDM in the rear when all is said and done. Heck he may never have to work again. IMO everything seems to be back firing on Crystal now a days.

 

[Malesherbes]

If he wasn't then he damn well needs them now. Loosing his job because of rumors is going to bite PDM in the rear when all is said and done. Heck he may never have to work again. IMO everything seems to be back firing on Crystal now a days.

I thought he lost his job because he never called PDM after HaLeigh went missing?

 

[texasmommy39]

I thought he lost his job because he never called PDM after HaLeigh went missing?

It has also been reported that Ron and his employer PDM where in agreement that Ron would return to work on the April 6th and was notified the 3rd that he had been terminated for failure to keep in touch with PDM. I am sure that some would feel this was inappropriate behavior for an employer of PDM under normal circumstances, but, would anyone of us had the mindset to worry about a job that you where under the impression was being held and not be focus and consumed with the fact your child had been abducted from her bed in the middle of the night?

 

[MaedchenX]

I thought he lost his job because he never called PDM after HaLeigh went missing?

I recall that too;

Tony McCauley, director of human resources for PDM Bridge, said Cummings' bosses never heard from him following Haleigh's disappearance Feb. 10. McCauley said Cummings could have asked for a leave of absence.

"That never happened," he said from company headquarters in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. "Without that happening, at some point they filled his position. He was released."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...mmings-father-loses-job-story,0,5007318.story

I see that as a very concrete and valid reason for termination.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I thought he lost his job because he never called PDM after HaLeigh went missing?

Yes that is what was reported. PDM is a large company, I'm sure their legal staff was consulted more than once on how to handle Ron's termination with cause.

 

[Malesherbes]

It has also been reported that Ron and his employer PDM where in agreement that Ron would return to work on the April 6th and was notified the 3rd that he had been terminated for failure to keep in touch with PDM. I am sure that some would feel this was inappropriate behavior for an employer of PDM under normal circumstances, but, would anyone of us had the mindset to worry about a job that you where under the impression was being held and not be focus and consumed with the fact your child had been abducted from her bed in the middle of the night?

Well, I would agree with you if Ron had worked at that place for years, but he was still in the probationary period. I just know Ron is an adult and being one entails tying up loose ends no matter what, its not like he was hiding in his home at this time, I mean if he can drive almost 4 hours each way to get ink, he can call his work, but thats a whole other thread.

 

[kamky]

I don't think Ron is at all used to having to make public statments and he is not very good at this. Combined with an unfinished education and heavy use of colloquial speech, no wonder he comes across the way he does. Add the trauma of losing a child and distrust of media on top of that, not to mention possible effects of medications (legal). IMO, Misty and Crystal have similar issues and so also come across very poorly when they speak in public. They all tend to mix up genders, they mix up tenses, they make a zillion grammatical mistakes, and they are obviously uncomfortable so they avoid looking at the cameras. It makes it hard to read much into what they are saying and how they express it.

PS - elle, I agree with you and it is a shame. This incessent nit picking has driven away many good posters.

 

[debs]

If he wasn't then he damn well needs them now. Loosing his job because of rumors is going to bite PDM in the rear when all is said and done. Heck he may never have to work again. IMO everything seems to be back firing on Crystal now a days.

Ronald lost his job because he did not report to work as scheduled. Please allow him to accept responsibility for his actions.

 

[texasmommy39]

Ronald lost his job because he did not report to work as scheduled. Please allow him to accept responsibility for his actions.

Debs, again forgive my ignorance on the subject.
You are so correct, they both have to step up and take responsibility for both of their actions. And again I ask is this finding Haleigh?

 

[debs]

Posted this on the wrong thread because the initial post I'm responding to was there, but it belongs here, so......
Quote:
Originally Posted by texasmommy39
It has also been reported that Ron and his employer PDM where in agreement that Ron would return to work on the April 6th and was notified the 3rd that he had been terminated for failure to keep in touch with PDM. I am sure that some would feel this was inappropriate behavior for an employer of PDM under normal circumstances, but, would anyone of us had the mindset to worry about a job that you where under the impression was being held and not be focus and consumed with the fact your child had been abducted from her bed in the middle of the night?

PDM's Statement to Orlando Sentinel

"Tony McCauley, director of human resources for PDM Bridge, said Cummings' bosses never heard from him following Haleigh's disappearance Feb. 10. McCauley said Cummings could have asked for a leave of absence.

"That never happened," he said from company headquarters in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. "Without that happening, at some point they filled his position. He was released."

Cummings operated a rolling crane at the plant north of Palatka. He was not a longtime employee. "We still have a great deal of sympathy for Mr. Cummings and his family and certainly hope for the best," McCauley said."

He didn't contact them. Sure, they knew what was happening, but they have a business to run.

Ronald's attorney at the time's perspective

“Ronald agreed to this date and was prepared to go into work when he was told on Friday, April 3, 2009, that the offer to return to work was being withdrawn for ‘abandoning his job,’”

My THEORY, my OPINION, my GUESS is that the abandonment Mr. Kimball speaks of happened the night of Haleigh's disappearance, and he never went back. As we know, we have precedent for thinking that this THEORY has merit, since recently out of Ronald's own mouth, he states he's been waiting for LE to call him.

 

[Flossie JMO]

It has also been reported that Ron and his employer PDM where in agreement that Ron would return to work on the April 6th and was notified the 3rd that he had been terminated for failure to keep in touch with PDM. I am sure that some would feel this was inappropriate behavior for an employer of PDM under normal circumstances, but, would anyone of us had the mindset to worry about a job that you where under the impression was being held and not be focus and consumed with the fact your child had been abducted from her bed in the middle of the night?

Cummings' lawyer, Greg Kimball, released a statement saying Cummings agreed to return to work on April 6. "Ronald agreed to this date and was prepared to go into work when he was told on Friday, April 3, 2009, that the offer to return to work was being withdrawn for 'abandoning his job,'" Kimball said. "Cummings in the last two months has had to deal not only with the disappearance of his daughter Haleigh, but also false muckraking allegations by attorney Kim Picazio, representing Crystal Sheffield."

http://www.news4jax.com/news/19198012/detail.html

 

[TxLady2]

Agree, Debs. Not to mention that to take off for two whole months in this situation, expecting them to hold his job for that long, with no word to them when he 'might' return... seems to be sort of presumptious, IMO. And he has seemingly not made a move to find another job in four months now, that we know of.

 

[debs]

Agree, Debs. Not to mention that to take off for two whole months in this situation, expecting them to hold his job for that long, with no word to them when he 'might' return... seems to be sort of presumptious, IMO. And he has seemingly not made a move to find another job in four months now, that we know of.

No ma'am, he hasn't. The working excuse has been "He's probably working odd jobs."

Okay.

 

[Malesherbes]

Cummings' lawyer, Greg Kimball, released a statement saying Cummings agreed to return to work on April 6. "Ronald agreed to this date and was prepared to go into work when he was told on Friday, April 3, 2009, that the offer to return to work was being withdrawn for 'abandoning his job,'" Kimball said. "Cummings in the last two months has had to deal not only with the disappearance of his daughter Haleigh, but also false muckraking allegations by attorney Kim Picazio, representing Crystal Sheffield."

http://www.news4jax.com/news/19198012/detail.html

So this is probably why PDM had those cops sitting out there, "just in case"

Well, Ron should have sued them if he had a case, and he had lawyers at that time, I guess if a LAWYER doesn't see any kind of money in something, well...

jmo

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

Ronald lost his job because he did not report to work as scheduled. Please allow him to accept responsibility for his actions.

Link please?? Are you saying that if he'd shown up the day he was scheduled to go back they would have let him work? Because from what I heard, they weren't going to let him work....they even called LE in.

In any event, months ago the mods closed this topic off....I'm not sure if we are allowed to re-open the topic, and I'm more confused as to how the repeat posts on this topic are helping find Haleigh.

 

[CrankyPants]

It's been hashed and rehashed about Ron and losing his job. We won't really ever know the exact (or even all of the) reasons. I imagine that his employer did not feel like keeping a probationary employee around was worth the trouble of the media circus surrounding said employee. They managed to use their own rules to their advantage. Ron really didn't have much recourse as he was still in the probationary period of his employment.

People always say that he didn't "bother calling" his employer. I sincerely doubt that. If he hadn't called his employer, how would he have gotten paychecks or received the donated vacation days from other employees in the early days after Haleigh went missing?

Can any of you say that a new job would be your priority when your baby has gone missing and your every breath is being scrutinized by the media? Seriously...I think there are a lot of unreasonable expectations stated about BOTH parents in this case. I honestly believe that both Ron and Crystal have done their best given their realm of experience, their environment, their upbringing, and their individual abilities. I don't know what I would do if my baby was missing. I can guess, though...and it would more likely resemble being horribly depressed and afraid and less likely that I would focus on some of the issues so many here expect RC and CS to do.

MY OPINION

 

[Busylady]

I am really curious where people are getting the info that RC did not work. In 2005 he had a decent job, is there some documentation somewhere of when he lost that job? Is there some documentation that he did not have continous work? Why are people assuming he had the job in 2005 for a short period of time and then did not work until PDM? It appears he has provided for his children, nothing indicates otherwise.

 

[raeann]

Agree, Debs. Not to mention that to take off for two whole months in this situation, expecting them to hold his job for that long, with no word to them when he 'might' return... seems to be sort of presumptious, IMO. And he has seemingly not made a move to find another job in four months now, that we know of.

According to GGM Sykes statement the other day....Ron has not been working at all for the last six months.