Ron C. # 12

[PorcineGranny]

Thankyou Dr.Know. It would seem to me that if I thought I had a baby that needed much help and his mother wasn't too interested in him, I would do anything to take care of him. Amber may not be interested, but Ron who garners so much attention for being so kind and nurturing is sure dropping the ball on this one. For those that the excuse is he may not be the father, listen, he is the father. But whether a test is done or not, he has knowledge, but he doesn't care. JMO

 

[PorcineGranny]

Whispie, how does an unemployed person who has three cars and children manage to pay insurance, buy food and clothing without working? Its mind boggling.

 

[Whisperer]

Kool Look....MO only but, I do believe RC thinks he is the father of Jordan...he said it is very possible that he is on TV. I don't think RC wants this for his image right now. He is working on a caring, loving and thoughtful parent at the moment. He has his hands full. That would be a little much to throw in this innocent seriously disabled child right now out to the media.

Perhaps we will see more of his loving ways after he gets more money and opens up his non-profit...then he may give a large amount of money to Jordan if he decides to pursue paternity...think?

 

[Whisperer]

Whispie, how does an unemployed person who has three cars and children manage to pay insurance, buy food and clothing without working? Its mind boggling.

And buy flat screens, computers, and tats.

 

[PorcineGranny]

But you forgot, his children don't have bedframes, or extra blankets and sheets.

 

[PorcineGranny]

I don't even think the kids had many toys now that I think about it. No stimulation for their minds at all.

 

[Whisperer]

I would say his mom and grandma have always taken care of Ronald....wouldn't you?

RC has never shown any sign of taking on any responsibility on his own. Momma paid his rent and his cell phone. Both GMA most likely bought all the clothes and toys for the children. Medicare paid the health costs. Exactly what did RC pay? Were the utilities in his name? doubt it...IMO.

 

[PorcineGranny]

Good to see you whisp, I saw you brandishing your sword earlier, but you need shields upstairs, lol. I'm going to bed, its 3 oclock here, night .

 

[Whisperer]

But you forgot, his children don't have bedframes, or extra blankets and sheets.

We know Haleigh had a bedframe Porcine, remember, she had a bedrm. We didn't see JR's..I think it was filled with stuff from what was lying around the house. He may have had a bed too....don't know.

RC was the one lacking the bedroom set, as I recall.

.....According to Misty, bedding supplies seemed to be limited....don't know why either. The pillow for Haliegh was tattered, yuck!

 

[atherella]

Whispie, how does an unemployed person who has three cars and children manage to pay insurance, buy food and clothing without working? Its mind boggling.

How do we know all 3 vehicles are registered and being driven?

If they are not registered, there is no need for them to be insured. Many people "own" more than one car/truck, but do not have them "on the road".

 

[Flossie JMO]

You are right, it is an assumption on my part. A mother who can't be bothered to get out of bed for her child's Dr. appt's., continues to ause cocaine while pregnant, and doesn't pay support doesn't strike me as the kind of Mom out buying things for those children, but that is MOO.

jmo I think that's fair

 

[Flossie JMO]

Has their been a DNA/paternity test to confirm whether or not this child belonged to Ronald Cummings? If there has been, I surely haven't seen it. If there is no DNA/paternity test to establish the fact that he is the child's father, then why should he have to pay child support for a child that might not be his to begin with?

bbm, NO

 

[debs]

jmo I think that's fair

....and yet, that video oft shown on NG, Haleigh unwrapping presents, Jr in the background, face blurred......That is Crystal in the video....The children look loved, cared for, and happy.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Has their been a DNA/paternity test to confirm whether or not this child belonged to Ronald Cummings? If there has been, I surely haven't seen it. If there is no DNA/paternity test to establish the fact that he is the child's father, then why should he have to pay child support for a child that might not be his to begin with?

bbm~ No not that I have seen, which is what led into my questions earlier that were ducked and dodged, but never got answered. Why has Ron not had a DNA test done? Forget about the child support that he would have to pay...and keep in mind that Ron said himself that there was a possibility that he WAS the father, so there is a 50/50 chance that he is. So with Ron knowing that, what I would like to know is this:

(1) Do those here who support and believe Ron is such a responsible father really believe that Ron has done right by Jordan?
(2) Does Ron not owe it to that baby boy to find out if he is the father?
(3) Does it not tell you anything about his character that he has not bothered to lift a finger to find out.
(4) Would a responsible father care whether Amber wanted him in Jordans life or not? She can't stop him from finding out IF he really wants to know.
(5) Would a responsible devoted father not move Heaven and Earth to find out whether or not a child, a baby boy that did not ask to be born was his? Especially when we have all heard him say that he may be.
(4) Would a responsible father have no participation in his sons life?
(5) Does it not make you question his priorities in life at the very least?

As I said, I'm not even talking about the financial aspect of the whole thing, I'm speaking to the morality of it. (or lack thereof) Just about everyone on this thread that I have read AGREES that Crystal should have been at the very least making an effort to pay child support, so I don't know why that keeps getting thrown in the mix of this. So for the sake of staying on topic on "Rons thread" for just once, I would love to hear how those who feel that Ron is 'just the best' can justify in their own mind that this is OK. And if you do, how were you able to come to that conclusion? His lack of action regarding Jordan tells me much about Ron's character and I sincerely would like to know how some can square this in their own mind as being acceptable. Any takers? If not, then I guess I'll have my answer. TIA...

 

[Pondering Mind]

....and yet, that video oft shown on NG, Haleigh unwrapping presents, Jr in the background, face blurred......That is Crystal in the video....The children look loved, cared for, and happy.

debs, she made the horrible mistake of being honest about her drug use Shame on her...People seem to forget that she and Ron were together at that time too, (and his employment wasn't exactly, shall we say steady? ..don't guess he shared any responsibility for HaLeigh not making her Dr. appts. though. IIRC, Crystal didn't have her drivers license at the time either. ...Go figure...

 

[Whisperer]

Pondering....I'll be waiting and watching with you....kinda like being on Jury Watch..lol

 

[Whisperer]

Crystal is always in the wrong. She is honest and doesn't have a mean bone in her body, despite the fact some keep trying to insert them.

May I suggest that you will get a response to your post just like I did when I posted Crystal's letter to Haleigh.........................ZERO!

 

[Pondering Mind]

Don't hold your breath Whisperer, I would miss you!

 

[Whisperer]

bbm~ No not that I have seen, which is what led into my questions earlier that were ducked and dodged, but never got answered. Why has Ron not had a DNA test done? Forget about the child support that he would have to pay...and keep in mind that Ron said himself that there was a possibility that he WAS the father, so there is a 50/50 chance that he is. So with Ron knowing that, what I would like to know is this:

(1) Do those here who support and believe Ron is such a responsible father really believe that Ron has done right by Jordan?
(2) Does Ron not owe it to that baby boy to find out if he is the father?
(3) Does it not tell you anything about his character that he has not bothered to lift a finger to find out.
(4) Would a responsible father care whether Amber wanted him in Jordans life or not? She can't stop him from finding out IF he really wants to know.
(5) Would a responsible devoted father not move Heaven and Earth to find out whether or not a child, a baby boy that did not ask to be born was his? Especially when we have all heard him say that he may be.
(4) Would a responsible father have no participation in his sons life?
(5) Does it not make you question his priorities in life at the very least?

As I said, I'm not even talking about the financial aspect of the whole thing, I'm speaking to the morality of it. (or lack thereof) Just about everyone on this thread that I have read AGREES that Crystal should have been at the very least making an effort to pay child support, so I don't know why that keeps getting thrown in the mix of this. So for the sake of staying on topic on "Rons thread" for just once, I would love to hear how those who feel that Ron is 'just the best' can justify in their own mind that this is OK. And if you do, how you were able to come to that conclusion? His lack of action regarding Jordan tells me much about Ron's character and I sincerely would like to know how some can square this in their own mind as being acceptable. Any takers? If not, then I guess I'll have my answer. TIA...

BUMPINB POST....*tapping foot*

 

[Adrienne37]

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bbm~ So with Ron knowing that, what I would like to know is this:

(1) Do those here who support and believe Ron is such a responsible father really believe that Ron has done right by Jordan?
(2) Does Ron not owe it to that baby boy to find out if he is the father?
(3) Does it not tell you anything about his character that he has not bothered to lift a finger to find out.
(4) Would a responsible father care whether Amber wanted him in Jordans life or not? She can't stop him from finding out IF he really wants to know.
(5) Would a responsible devoted father not move Heaven and Earth to find out whether or not a child, a baby boy that did not ask to be born was his? Especially when we have all heard him say that he may be.
(4) Would a responsible father have no participation in his sons life?
(5) Does it not make you question his priorities in life at the very least?


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I'm going to answer your question because I have had a very personal experience with a situation just like this. My brother was awarded custody of my niece and nephew from their mother when they were 5 and 2. That situation is very very similar to that of Ron and Crystal's with the exception being that their mother was not a drug abuser. My brother worked his a$$ off over the years to provide the very best for the children with both mine and my mother's help. He was briefly involved in a relationship with another woman who subsequently became pregnant. She said that the child was his but didn't want a paternity test nor did she want any support for him. He never was fully convinced that he was the child's father and had questions about her faithfulness during their relationship. He also knew that the mother did not want him involved and that she wanted to raise the child as her own so he didn't try to find out. DNA tests are very expensive and he didn't have the money to pay for it. That being said, my brother is an excellent man of wonderful character and a wonderful father to his children. His children are now 29 and 23, both college graduates with excellent careers and children of their own. This child is now 18 years old and has no desire to find out if my brother is her father. Maybe she will as she grows older but my brother respected the wishes of the child's mother and stayed away. So in response to your questions, if Amber has been insistent that Ronald not be involved in Jordan's life, then he is honoring her wishes. Maybe he suspects that Jordan is not his child and would you honestly expect him to invest the time and the money into providing for this child who might turn out not to be his? I would have hated to know that my brother paid support and became emotionally attached to a child only to find out by DNA testing that the child wasn't his after all.

This may or may not be relevant to the case of who is raising Jordan right now because I know nothing at all about these people nor do I care to know anything about these people but in the state of Florida if there is any sort of assistance (such as food stamps, TANF, WIC, medicaid, etc.) provided to the person caring for a child by the state of Florida, then DCF will order a DNA test and they will forward the case to the Florida Department of Child Support Enforcement. Be sure that the state of Florida will enforce the orders and you will abide by them else you will be held in contempt of court.