Ron C. # 12

[Crosby87]

It is difficult to get a job when you have any convictions on your record. ANY, including deferred adjudication....counseling and pleading no lo. Convictions are convictions and I also believe the question on the application reads..."Have youever been arrested or convicted of a felony". One could lie, I guess.

I know some employers state in job advertisements that those convicted of an crime won't be rejected when applying for a job. In Canada most employers now require employees to obtain and submit a criminal record check within 3 months of the date they were hired which costs the employee around $30 and it remains valid for 6 months - 1 year. I think one with a criminal record can apply for a pardon but I don't know the details because I don't have a criminal record. Based on the number of people with a criminal history, I don't think it is possible to exclude those with a prior record so employers have chosen to include flexiblilty in their hiring practices and offer applicants some leniency. Of course they can lie like you said, but in Canada where I live, most employers require a certified criminal record check which is like a driver's abstract in order to be considered for a job.

 

[Flossie JMO]

But however we do know a lot about Ron's arrest history. This history speaks for itself and needs no interpretation or speculation in order to understand it.

While that had nothing to do with what I posted, I haven't seen anyone lie and say he was never arrested. Convicted is a different story imo

 

[Pondering Mind]

I agree, the arrest records of all these people are public record.

why, yes of course they are and many of them do have records (as is pointed out in every thread) but none as ...eh..'interesting' as Ron's imo and very few, if any as extensive, which is why his is being discussed in the *Ron thread*. HTH!

 

[Flossie JMO]

Really? I find the convictions more "interesting". JMO

 

[Pondering Mind]

While that had nothing to do with what I posted, I haven't seen anyone lie and say he was never arrested. Convicted is a different story imo

That is true Flossie, but as I posted earlier (although I think that it got deleted, so I'll be brief this time :angel What do you really think the odds are of him being arrested so many times and being completely innocent of most charges? Just because he wasn't convicted, certainly doesn't mean that he had done nothing wrong, only that LE may not have had enough evidence to convict. I don't believe for a minute that he was unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people so often. I mean seriously, how many people do you know personally that have been falsely arrested that many times? I know of 0 myself and I have known some 'characters'. Just sayin...

 

[Flossie JMO]

I think the odds are pretty good.

The convictions of other scary characters related to this case are much more worrisome to me.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Really? I find the convictions more "interesting". JMO

I don't know if that was directed at me or not, but I think it was, lol.. so I'll ask. Why is that? When I said 'interesting' I was meaning quite a variety of charges in his arrests. What is it about the convictions that you find interesting?

 

[Flossie JMO]

I answered in the post above

 

[Pondering Mind]

I think the odds are pretty good.

The convictions of other scary characters related to this case are much more worrisome to me.

I'm not talking about convictions tho. Do you really think that all his drug arrests were just 'flukes' for lack of a better word. That he was minding his own business and LE just had it in for him and arrested him each of those times on bogus charges? Or ??? IDK, I can't think of another explanation. Maybe if it was once, I could possibly consider that someone he was with was caught with drugs that Ron had no knowledge of, but that's not the case, he has quite a lists of arrests.

 

[Flossie JMO]

What are your thoughts on why no convictions?

 

[Pondering Mind]

I answered in the post above

:waitasec: I'm not sure what you mean. You just said that you found others convictions more interesting than Ron's but I don't understand. It seems so cryptic and I'm not sure why? Did I miss something?

 

[Flossie JMO]

:waitasec: I'm not sure what you mean. You just said that you found others convictions more interesting than Ron's but I don't understand. It seems so cryptic and I'm not sure why? Did I miss something?

I was using your word of interesting, which is why I put it in quotes. As I posted above, it's the convictions of the scary characters related to this case that I find much more worrisome. Hope that clarifies.

why, yes of course they are and many of them do have records (as is pointed out in every thread) but none as ...eh..'interesting' as Ron's imo and very few, if any as extensive, which is why his is being discussed in the *Ron thread*. HTH!

 

[Flossie JMO]

I wondered what you found interesting about Ron's arrests and what your thoughts are on the lack of convictions.

 

[Pondering Mind]

What are your thoughts on why no convictions?

Honestly I believe..
(1) either that LE didn't have enough evidence that the drugs were his to convict.
(2) Drug charges are tossed out very often on technicalities.
(3) TN had friends to take care of it. Happens ALL the time, especially in small towns. I don't even live in a small town, but had a friend whose mother was a magistrate where I live and I know for a fact he became a junkie and arrested many times on serious drug charges. It would show up in the court records for a day or two and then *poof* ALL GONE, never to rear it's ugly head again. (as well as some of his friends charges)

I could go on Flossie, but suffice it to say that if Ron was arrested that many times whether he was convicted or not, it would be a very safe bet IMO that he was a participant in some kind of drug activity. Would you feel the same way if a neighbor of yours had the same LONG arrest record, but not convictions? Would you assume that he had just been dealt a bad lot in life and just couldn't catch a break OR would it make you wonder?

 

[Flossie JMO]

We can agree to disagree.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I wondered what you found interesting about Ron's arrests and what your thoughts are on the lack of convictions.

I see...I only meant that his charges run the gamut and they don't seem to be related to each other, therefore making it even more unlikely to me that he is being painted in the wrong light. You RARELY see someone with this many charges at different times that can be chalked up to bad timing. When it comes to drugs way more often than not, where there is smoke there is fire, so to speak. JMO tho...

 

[curvecuti]

I think the odds are pretty good.

The convictions of other scary characters related to this case are much more worrisome to me.

I agree. Ron is such a horrible person for his arrest record and yet we have folks involved that have drug charges with intent to sell, no less, who had very young children in a home that was used for maintaining a dwelling. People who very recently had drug paraphenalia found on their property. People who used drugs while pregnant. This is all forgiven and forgotten but RC is crucified over and over on every thread. It boggles the mind.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I agree. Ron is such a horrible person for his arrest record and yet we have folks involved that have drug charges with intent to sell, no less, who had very young children in a home that was used for maintaining a dwelling. People who very recently had drug paraphenalia found on their property. People who used drugs while pregnant. This is all forgiven and forgotten but RC is crucified over and over on every thread. It boggles the mind.

Evidentally, it didn't boggle the Judges mind in the matter of custody. I would like to know what evidence was presented in the custody hearing. Specifically since it's being discussed now, was other family members criminal records presented in the hearings besides Rons and Crystals? TIA

 

[Emeralgem]

What are your thoughts on why no convictions?

IMHO... I would say someone knows someone in high places...JMO

 

[PorcineGranny]

These are old facts since I have not worked in a long time. But in DWI court, it was a given that for a person who was arrested of DWI, they had been on the road at least 200 times drunk or drinking without being arrested. I don't know the statistics for drug use, but I'm thinking its probably similiar. Why are drug charges dismissed, many reasons. Most cases they are convicted of the more serious charge and others are dismissed. But, there are attorneys and judges who because of friendship or family will look the other way. I'm not crucifying Ron , I just think it looks awfully bad when hes caught with so many different drugs. It would indicate that he is selling. I say shame on the police dept. that has let so many charges go unpunished, or maybe he is giving optimum information to law enforcement and that is why they are dismissed. This p.dept needs an investigation.