Ron. C. #13

[Busylady]

I understand where you are coming from. I was surprised to see TN post a comment, that is the first time I have had any knowledge that she was posting or reading any forums. I personally hope she does not start posting or reading the forums on a regular basis, there is enough heartache without her reading all the "stuff" put out there about herself and family and her trying to clarify anything is just going to generate a bigger mess IMO.

Busy I agree and disagree with you, lol. The most important thing is Jr's well being and I too hope that he had a funfilled day Turkey Day that was as normal as it could possibly be. It really doesn't matter to me whether Ron spent the holiday with family or friends as long as Jr was with his father. I am only going by what I gathered reading cajun's post and the article quoting GGMS. I just have a feeling that he wasn't with him (aka jmo ) and that is heartbreaking to me if that's the case. I also think right or wrong that since TN and family read and post at different forums that if Jr was with Ron that day, they would have found someway to get that info out because I think it does show Ron in a very bad light, but then again thats' jmho.

What I disagree with is that Jr is only 4 yrs old and doesn't understand all this, I promise you that (speaking from a somewhat similar experience) if he has the intelligence of an average 4 y/o then I believe that he understands WAY more than we realize.

 

[Whisperer]

Goodnight Pondering...sleep well..

 

[Whisperer]

You never heard TN was posting or reading "forums?' How could she not? She seems to be the type that wants/has to be in the know at all times.

It appears to me she is very much around....if not in posting than reading and/or giving information. Look at the info she has put out there. She claims RC was at the bus stop...er...how would she know? This kind of info is repeated over and over by TN.

 

[Whisperer]

Tn also stated what misty was wearing on Green. She stated that they were up all night talking (that's a good one) and also one you have stated yourself. Well, that info comes from a source that wasn't even there. there is plenty more. Almost every piece of info we have on this case has come from TN. TN was not there...or was she?

 

[debs]

So, if I follow the current attempt to spin things, Ron probably had Jr with him, but away from his entire family, instead spending time with friends who would be more inclined to show Ron and Jr a good time, instead of sadness.

When is it a bad thing to show emotions? What lesson would Jr learn about how he might feel missing Haleigh? I want them all to be able to find a measure of peace during the difficult times, but pretending that sadness (which, in my own opinion, was exacerbated more for GGM and TN by Ronald's inability to reach out to them in THEIR time of need for comfort of having him and Jr around) should be shunned completely teaches a child to stuff his emotions and lock them away, building up over years until it explodes at some point in the future.

It would have been much more healthy for Jr and Ronald to spend that day (not every day; THAT day) with their family, giving thanks for the blessings they had, praying for the continued absence of the blessing they love, and demonstrating that the heart is best healed at home.

Oh well. I agree with Whisp that it was a selfish decision. Can't change it. Hope Jr continues to be allowed to know it's okay to be sad that Haleigh is gone, that he doesn't have to pretend it isn't.

 

[Baznme]

I really am not all that concerned how RC spent his day, who he was with or even if Jr. was with him. That's his business IMO. If the grandmothers of Haleigh didn't celebrate the holiday in the traditional fashion, that's obviously their choice and in no way reflects on them as people of this broken family, again, IMO.

What does concern me is their conviction that Haleigh is alive yet they don't stick together like glue especially around the holidays which would be the most difficult of times, I would think, yes, I understand that but where are they all if she should come home? If there was a chance that whoever would have her would be inclined to let her go, I would think it would be around a holiday where "family" would be together if there is one ounce of compassion in them, again, IMO.

Since the grandmothers didn't celebrate, and yes, this is an assumption, they were not together. Add to it that Daddy was not home for Haleigh to come home to. And by the way, where is home now for Haleigh TO come home to, if by some miracle that she was able to? Does anyone really know? Something is not right here.

 

[Busylady]

TN arrived at Green LN that morning and would be able to tell what Misty had on when she arrived which is the questioned she answered when NG asked her. RC originally stated he picked up Haleigh from the bus stop and TN has repeated that when asked. I guess do not see it any different that Marie, KP, AH answering questions asked by reporters when they were not there.

Tn also stated what misty was wearing on Green. She stated that they were up all night talking (that's a good one) and also one you have stated yourself. Well, that info comes from a source that wasn't even there. there is plenty more. Almost every piece of info we have on this case has come from TN. TN was not there...or was she?

 

[Busylady]

I agree with some of what you are saying. Personally I would want to be with family I think in the situation, but I have not been in their shoes so I am not completely sure how I would handle the holidays. I have no doubt that JR feels sadness everyday because he misses his Sissy and I do understand wanting to also have some normalcy for him. My point was there is nothing out there that states RC left JR and went out and had a great time, yet there are pages and pages of post stating how awful RC was to abandon his son on Thanksgiving.

So, if I follow the current attempt to spin things, Ron probably had Jr with him, but away from his entire family, instead spending time with friends who would be more inclined to show Ron and Jr a good time, instead of sadness.

When is it a bad thing to show emotions? What lesson would Jr learn about how he might feel missing Haleigh? I want them all to be able to find a measure of peace during the difficult times, but pretending that sadness (which, in my own opinion, was exacerbated more for GGM and TN by Ronald's inability to reach out to them in THEIR time of need for comfort of having him and Jr around) should be shunned completely.

It would have been much more healthy for Jr and Ronald to spend that day (not every day; THAT day) with their family, giving thanks for the blessings they had, praying for the continued absence of the blessing they love, and demonstrating that the heart is best healed at home.

Oh well. I agree with Whisp that it was a selfish decision. Can't change it. Hope Jr continues to be allowed to know it's okay to be sad that Haleigh is gone, that he doesn't have to pretend it isn't.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Maybe it is late and I am missing something. I read TN post on BNN about JR having a wonderful holiday and that she herself stayed home. GGMS stated that she might go by her daughters house but wasn't sure had no definite plans. I just can't find anywhere that says RC didn't have JR with him. People seem so positive that he didn't so I have reread and reread and can't find anything that indicates that.

There is nothing out there that states Jr wasn't with Ron, it's just some people making assumptions again.

 

[debs]

There is nothing out there that states Jr wasn't with Ron, it's just some people making assumptions again.

I understood those posts to be discussing Jr not being with family, which includes more than just his father.

 

[Emeralgem]

I really am not all that concerned how RC spent his day, who he was with or even if Jr. was with him. That's his business IMO. If the grandmothers of Haleigh didn't celebrate the holiday in the traditional fashion, that's obviously their choice and in no way reflects on them as people of this broken family, again, IMO.

What does concern me is their conviction that Haleigh is alive yet they don't stick together like glue especially around the holidays which would be the most difficult of times, I would think, yes, I understand that but where are they all if she should come home? If there was a chance that whoever would have her would be inclined to let her go, I would think it would be around a holiday where "family" would be together if there is one ounce of compassion in them, again, IMO.

Since the grandmothers didn't celebrate, and yes, this is an assumption, they were not together. Add to it that Daddy was not home for Haleigh to come home to. And by the way, where is home now for Haleigh TO come home to, if by some miracle that she was able to? Does anyone really know? Something is not right here.

Something is not right due to the fact they ALL know Haleigh will not be coming home ever again and I highly suspect all of them have known this to be the TRUTH since last February 9, 2009.
They need to tell the TRUTH about what really happened to Haleigh but no, they have chosen to protect his rear end and now their own because they know they are up to their eyeballs in deep... you know what for lying and obstructing justice..
So what do they do? They continue to play the pretense game, attempting to garner sympathy for Ron C and themselves with their lies...
Personally, I don't want to hear how much they love Haleigh or how hard it is for any of them with her being gone until they come forth and tell the truth...
Then and ONLY then will I ever have sympathy for any of them and what they
are experiencing... which I am certain is a hellacious nightmare...But since lying to cover the truth has taken precedence over the truth as to what really happened to Haleigh their attempts to seek sympathy and support isn't working for me...It just makes me angry.. Haleigh deserved so much more...JMO

 

[Baxter]

There is nothing out there that states Jr wasn't with Ron, it's just some people making assumptions again.

Teresa was talking about Jr. having a big feast and having fun playing games.
IMO, she tried to keep things as normal as possible for Jr., by having Thanksgiving at "Popa Jeff's". Her post was thanking everyone for their prayers and letting everyone know that Jr. was ok.

Now, if you add that to the interview with AS, stating that Ronald was spending Thanksgiving with friends, my logical conclusion would be that JR spent Thanksgiving with TN.

Why must everyone make excuses for Ron. He chose his friends over family.

 

[Novice Seeker]

Yeah, kinda like how MG talks for CS, but I don't think that means CS isn't woman enough to do it herself, imo.

What is the difference between these mothers? Haleigh was a victim in a crime while under Ronalds care, whose girlfriend is suspected to have been involved which LE also believe. Ronald hasn't been working with LE and said at one time he wasn't talking to LE anymore b/c he felt they were looking at him and Misty. Well, duh. Why would it matter if it could help find Haleigh?

IMO most of us wouldn't have straightened out the false statements when they were given when the police first arrived. I also think most of us would be more than willing to have anything about ourselves scrutinized by LE if it would find our child.

Novice Seeker

 

[Flossie JMO]

Teresa was talking about Jr. having a big feast and having fun playing games.
IMO, she tried to keep things as normal as possible for Jr., by having Thanksgiving at "Popa Jeff's". Her post was thanking everyone for their prayers and letting everyone know that Jr. was ok.

Now, if you add that to the interview with AS, stating that Ronald was spending Thanksgiving with friends, my logical conclusion would be that JR spent Thanksgiving with TN.

Why must everyone make excuses for Ron. He chose his friends over family.

I'm not making excuses for Ron. You don't know where Junior was.

 

[Novice Seeker]

I have read all the articles and I even went over and read the messages posted at that BNN place. Nowhere in anything I read did I see where it stated that Jr was not with his father. Why is everyone assuming Ronald and Jr were not together?

Because we read the part about Jr not being there. Is there an article where Ronald explained where he and Jr went for Thanksgiving together that contradicts the other articles?

Novice Seeker

 

[Novice Seeker]

I'm not making excuses for Ron. You don't know where Junior was.

What is there to excuse? Ronald was not with his family. TN provided Thanksgiving for Jr. It seems quite clear Jr wasn't with his daddy since daddy didn't go to TN's house for dinner but instead went with some friends. Pretty clear where who was where. :banghead:

Wonder who these friends are that Ronald chose to spend time with instead of his family.:tsktsk:

Novice Seeker

 

[Whisperer]

Unlikely to hear from rc...he is once again in protect his azz mode. Mommy and Granny are on the duty to get him out of bad press once again. When is the enabling going to stop?

I have my suspicions where he was and I think he moved on with his life. No grass to grow under his feet. Makes ya wonder where he moved on to and with. If what was written is true, we should all know where he is now.

rc is a con, but I think most of us know that about him. If he didn't pick up Haleigh at that bus stop on that day, I think we will ALL know the truth of what really happened to Haleigh. rc has been deceiving LE on so many levels and for such a long time.

Hey, the guy's a mover and a shaker.
1. Leaves Amber and his son j.
2. moves on to Buchanen
3. meets Misty
4. leaves Buchanen and moves in with Misty on Green
5. looses his daughter
6. leaves Green Lane
7. Abandons or gets fired from his job
8. Marries misty
9 Moves to Welatka
10 Gets Arrested for assault
12.Puts headless rat in person's mailbox who told on him
131.divorces misty
14. meets new girl is the rumor and seems to have legs.
15.spends holiday with "new" friends. I will speculate and say they drop the "s" on friends and leave it with just one....a female.

Yes, he does a lot in one short year.....Amazing...and disgusting!

 

[LillieBelle]

How much you wanna bet TN read Websleuths or was called about bad press and she put out that message. How are things in Fruitland Park anyway TN? Papa Jeff cooking again this year? Glad you could take Butterbean off your son's hands and give your ronald a break for the day so he doesn't have to with family because you all remind him of Haleigh....What a croc!!

.......I wonder who called in her words for damage control...

You know, I thought that was one of the reasons for the parking lot rumor thread,- so only registered users (I know anyone can register, but TN might not, she is more likely to lurk) can view comments there. I can believe 100% that TN is reading these (and other internet comments) to decide how to proceed in her damage control for her one and only (I mean son). jmho

 

[Whisperer]

IMO...she has been doing this from the beginning with help. She has done with her address, The balloon ralley, and now she responds with the "holier than thou" Thanksgiving comment.....you betcha.

 

[azwriter]

There is nothing out there that states Jr wasn't with Ron, it's just some people making assumptions again.

Morning Flossie, you might want to check the Anntte Sykes thread. There's a link to an interview she gave to Fox News. I think it's in post #40. Sykes claims Ron was with friends for the holiday. She adds that he stayed away from the family because being with them brought sad memories of Haleigh. If, according to her, Ron was with friends instead of family, by all indications that must mean he wasn't with his son on Thanksgiving.
Hope that helps.