Ron C. #6

[texasmommy39]

If Ron is in need of an Attorney in the near future it will not be a Family Law Attorney and the same thing can be said for Crystal or Misty.
Who else aside from these three could of came into ( NO FORCED ENTRY)that MH,prop the screen door,turn on kitchen light, remove HaLeigh from bed, change her clothes and leave no other trace? Does this sound like a SO?
Who would want Haleigh this bad? To take her away from everyone?
Who would have the nads and criminal inteligence to pull this off and obviously get away with it.
What about JS? I am not saying he did do it, but, if the glove fits........
We need to take a second look at him having Motive, Ability, and Oportunity. Tennesse seems to be an intrest of his and a possible location for a hidden HaLeigh.

 

[raeann]

BBM Problem is, I don't believe they have ANY evidence, one way or another, on ANYONE. Therefore, everyone remains under the umbrella of possible/implied guilt, public scrutiny, whatever anyone wants to fling at them. LE either threw out their own case when the bedding hit ramp, or there is a reason why they don't appear to be moving forward. I hope and pray the reason is a good one. . .

My opinion only

Unfortunately, the bedding was irrelevant from the "get-go", due to Misty's lies, inconsistencies and flat out incoherence, no one knows whether Haleigh had ever even TOUCHED any of that bedding! If we are to believe one of the latest stories Misty told, she had washed ALL of the bedding and just "made up" the bed right before she herself got into it to sleep. All while Jr. was already asleep in that bed and Haleigh was never even near it.

It seems likely that they have evidence that points in a specific direction, as they can't clear the AC man without some evidence pointing in another direction. They didn't need to come back for the door if there was no evidence regarding it, and they wouldn't keep requesting (and being denied) to speak with RC and MC regarding further information that they need to provide. You can bet on the fact that every LE request and every Cummings delay and denial of a meeting is being duly recorded for future legal procedures! For absolute certainty, there is evidence somewhere, because the prime players who won't give out information must have something they are hiding. JMO, IMOO and all that!

 

[lil momma]

I think the DCF investigation would have turned out completely different had RC, MC & JR not moved in with GGMA. (i think that is where he is living) I am also wondering if this is the same DCF investigator that investigated them before, i wonder this b/c wasn't that a neighbor of his, or he knew the son of the DCF investigator? (i thought i read that somewhere) almost like a conflict of intrest?

as far as the parenting class is concerened, they should have to take it, i know in the article it states they agreed to take the class, but the next line states "that it is standard precaution that DCF seeks" IMO, if it standard precaution, then in my mind DCF is telling them they need to take these classes.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

They also mention a little matter of communication with LE regarding HaLeigh's case. A fact that Ronald and others conveniently forget. I wonder why they do not want to help him with that any longer?? Hmmmmm...

Didn't they state it was because there was no need for them to be there for that reason since there was no pending criminal charges or something to that effect? It wasn't due to them not being willing to help him. He simply doesn't need them.

 

[texasmommy39]

]Unfortunately, the bedding was irrelevant from the "get-go", due to Misty's lies, inconsistencies and flat out incoherence, no one knows whether Haleigh had ever even TOUCHED any of that bedding[/B]! If we are to believe one of the latest stories Misty told, she had washed ALL of the bedding and just "made up" the bed right before she herself got into it to sleep. All while Jr. was already asleep in that bed and Haleigh was never even near it.

It seems likely that they have evidence that points in a specific direction, as they can't clear the AC man without some evidence pointing in another direction. They didn't need to come back for the door if there was no evidence regarding it, and they wouldn't keep requesting (and being denied) to speak with RC and MC regarding further information that they need to provide. You can bet on the fact that every LE request and every Cummings delay and denial of a meeting is being duly recorded for future legal procedures! For absolute certainty, there is evidence somewhere, because the prime players who won't give out information must have something they are hiding. JMO, IMOO and all that!

BBM
Good Morning raeann,
IMO It was the responding officer that made that decision. The responding officer was possibly under the impression that Haleigh wondered off (door open kitchen light on) not Misty's inconsistancies.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

If Ron is in need of an Attorney in the near future it will not be a Family Law Attorney and the same thing can be said for Crystal or Misty.
Who else aside from these three could of came into ( NO FORCED ENTRY)that MH,prop the screen door,turn on kitchen light, remove HaLeigh from bed, change her clothes and leave no other trace? Does this sound like a SO?
Who would want Haleigh this bad? To take her away from everyone?
Who would have the nads and criminal inteligence to pull this off and obviously get away with it.
What about JS? I am not saying he did do it, but, if the glove fits........
We need to take a second look at him having Motive, Ability, and Oportunity. Tennesse seems to be an intrest of his and a possible location for a hidden HaLeigh.

It sounds like an inside job.Someone that was in the house or someone that was let in the house.No one has gotten away with any thing.The person who took Haleigh will be found.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Didn't they state it was because there was no need for them to be there for that reason since there was no pending criminal charges or something to that effect? It wasn't due to them not being willing to help him. He simply doesn't need them.

Were there pending criminal charges when they stated this ?

1. The Law Office of Kimball & Snider P.A. will assist Ronald Cummings in his continuing cooperation with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, and all other police agencies in their investigation into Haleigh’s disappearance.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

BBM Problem is, I don't believe they have ANY evidence, one way or another, on ANYONE. Therefore, everyone remains under the umbrella of possible/implied guilt, public scrutiny, whatever anyone wants to fling at them. LE either threw out their own case when the bedding hit ramp, or there is a reason why they don't appear to be moving forward. I hope and pray the reason is a good one. . .

My opinion only

Yes, you are probably right there. When you botch a case as badly as I believe they have botched this one...the evidence is already gone due to their mishandling of it. However, they need to look at solid alibis and everything else they have gathered (surely, they have gathered something!). They need to clear the ones who they know with reasonable certainty did not take Haleigh. Teresa, the mailman, and others would fall into this category. It is ridiculous for them to maintain still that it could be just anyone. It makes them look as badly as they really appear to be at this point.

 

[Flossie JMO]

If Ron is in need of an Attorney in the near future it will not be a Family Law Attorney and the same thing can be said for Crystal or Misty.
Who else aside from these three could of came into ( NO FORCED ENTRY)that MH,prop the screen door,turn on kitchen light, remove HaLeigh from bed, change her clothes and leave no other trace? Does this sound like a SO?
Who would want Haleigh this bad? To take her away from everyone?
Who would have the nads and criminal inteligence to pull this off and obviously get away with it.
What about JS? I am not saying he did do it, but, if the glove fits........
We need to take a second look at him having Motive, Ability, and Oportunity. Tennesse seems to be an intrest of his and a possible location for a hidden HaLeigh.

Oh don't get me started. Imo, definitely not a stranger!

And re custody. Everyone has the right to have the screamin meemies and to create all kinds of drama about their opinion. Bringing it back to reality, one's opinion doesn't matter obviously, it was solely up to DCF, they decided, end of story. I am thrilled they found no abuse, and honestly, I never doubted them. Anything more than an opinion would be best served by venting your spleen in a letter directly to DCF with all of the concerns addressed, copy the press, maybe one of them will be interested.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Were there pending criminal charges when they stated this ?

1. The Law Office of Kimball & Snider P.A. will assist Ronald Cummings in his continuing cooperation with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, and all other police agencies in their investigation into Haleigh’s disappearance.

I wasn't quoting them. I don't know exactly how they put it and frankly...what does it matter? They are not needed to help Ronald cooperate with LE anymore. Bottom line.

 

[texasmommy39]

It sounds like an inside job.Someone that was in the house or someone that was let in the house.

I agree!!!
But, we have to look at who else aside from Ron and Misty for the moment, please and I would bet Crystal DID NOT come into that MH and take HaLeigh either. Who would be let in ( by Haleigh herself? She was watching a movie and there was mention of a different movie found in the player) or had found access to a key?


ETA: At this point my opinon is the issue of custody between Ron and Crystal is over, but, a new theory is brewing on who really did want custody of this child. Will post in theory thread.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Oh don't get me started. Imo, definitely not a stranger!

And re custody. Everyone has the right to have the screamin meemies and to create all kinds of drama about their opinion. Bringing it back to reality, one's opinion doesn't matter obviously, it was solely up to DCF, they decided, end of story. I am thrilled they found no abuse, and honestly, I never doubted them. Anything more than an opinion would be best served by venting your spleen in a letter directly to DCF with all of the concerns addressed, copy the press, maybe one of them will be interested.

I had no idea when that report came out yesterday that it would grow into this kind of drama. I honestly thought people would get a grip on the situation and move on.

I am ready to move on and get off the custody issue. I hope Ronald and Crystal are ready to do the same. It is long overdue for them to work together to find Haleigh.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I agree!!!
But, we have to look at who else aside from Ron and Misty for the moment, please and I would bet Crystal DID NOT come into that MH and take HaLeigh either who would be let in ( by Haleigh herself? She was watching a movie and there was mention of a different movie found in the player) or had found access to a key?

I believe there was no movie in the player.I don't feel she ever watched it.Who else?some one MC knew and let in the house.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I wasn't quoting them. I don't know exactly how they put it and frankly...what does it matter? They are not needed to help Ronald cooperate with LE anymore. Bottom line.

BBM

You're probably right about the sentence I bolded. I'm not sure how much cooperation they fostered.

Thursday, Sheriff's Office spokesman Johnny Greenwood said detectives had not received any "credible information" from the law firm and had not had contact with them since April or early May.

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/071709/news_1754651.shtml


However, you were pretty much right on in your recap of the reason they stated for ending their involvement. And that reason does not correlate with the reasons they stated for beginning that involvement. Does it matter ? Yeah, it does to me - I'd like to be confident that there are no other issues in the attorney's withdrawal.

 

[raeann]

BBM
Good Morning raeann,
IMO It was the responding officer that made that decision. The responding officer was possibly under the impression that Haleigh wondered off (door open kitchen light on) not Misty's inconsistancies.

The responding officer made that decision because he had no choice due to the urgency of the situation and he had to believe the story that Misty was telling at that time. IF SHE HAD TOLD THEM THE TRUTH about who was sleeping where and when or who was NOT sleeping, then they would have KNOWN that they needed to get some clothing instead of the bedding. The FACT that she/they misled them regarding the bedding issues meant that LE missed the best opportunity to actually follow Haleigh's trail as opposed to the scents of whoever else might have more recently touched that bedding. The facts are there to be clearly seen, from the 911 call hangups and lack of information to the first morning when the bedtime "stories" started to be spun, RC and MC were throwing roadblocks at LE and preventing them from finding Haleigh, just as they continue to do to this day. IMOO

 

[Flossie JMO]

ITA re inside job, IMO it was totally family/friends that kidnapped, and continue to hide HaLeigh. Again, I don't think Crystal was involved initially. Think about it.

 

[texasmommy39]

I believe there was no movie in the player.I don't think she ever watched it.Who else?some one MC knew and let in the house.

I will be taking a look back at that info tonight to get a better prespective of the movie and if in fact it was found to be fact or fiction. The point I am speculating over is it was someone Haleigh knew very well if she allowed them in or to wake her, change her clothes and leave with them and not make any noise. If it was not the parents or misty it had to be someone as close in relationship to have a motive and be so brazen to commit this crime in the first place and turn on lights at the risk of waking Haleigh and her screaming and or waking Misty.

 

[raeann]

BBM

You're probably right about the sentence I bolded. I'm not sure how much cooperation they fostered.

Thursday, Sheriff's Office spokesman Johnny Greenwood said detectives had not received any "credible information" from the law firm and had not had contact with them since April or early May.

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/071709/news_1754651.shtml


However, you were pretty much right on in your recap of the reason they stated for ending their involvement. And that reason does not correlate with the reasons they stated for beginning that involvement. Does it matter ? Yeah, it does to me - I'd like to be confident that there are no other issues in the attorney's withdrawal. Is the discrepancy between the statements significant ? I'm not sure - still pondering that.

BBM

How very, very sad and very telling of what happened in this case....the father of this missing child has made NO CONTACT with LE at all for 3 out of the 5 months that his child has been missing.

 

[texasmommy39]

The responding officer made that decision because he had no choice due to the urgency of the situation and he had to believe the story that Misty was telling at that time. IF SHE HAD TOLD THEM THE TRUTH about who was sleeping where and when or who was NOT sleeping, then they would have KNOWN that they needed to get some clothing instead of the bedding. The FACT that she/they misled them regarding the bedding issues meant that LE missed the best opportunity to actually follow Haleigh's trail as opposed to the scents of whoever else might have more recently touched that bedding. The facts are there to be clearly seen, from the 911 call hangups and lack of information to the first morning when the bedtime "stories" started to be spun, RC and MC were throwing roadblocks at LE and preventing them from finding Haleigh, just as they continue to do to this day. IMOO

Do you know for a fact Misty has lied?

 

[Busylady]

Could it be that RC doesnt need assistance in those areas because he is cooperating with LE?

Were there pending criminal charges when they stated this ?

1. The Law Office of Kimball & Snider P.A. will assist Ronald Cummings in his continuing cooperation with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, and all other police agencies in their investigation into Haleigh’s disappearance.