Ron C. #6

[Ms Suzanne]

I will be taking a look back at that info tonight to get a better prespective of the movie and if in fact it was found to be fact or fiction. The point I am speculating over is it was someone Haleigh knew very well if she allowed them in or to wake her, change her clothes and leave with them and not make any noise. If it was not the parents or misty it had to be someone as close in relationship to have a motive and be so brazen to commit this crime in the first place and turn on lights at the risk of waking Haleigh and her screaming and or waking Misty.

Ok,I would like to know for sure too about the movie.If I remember correctly.I saw MC's mother say it on the news on video.I believe she said there was no movie in the player(I assume the movie Haleigh was supposedly watching)She shrugged it off I believe by saying maybe Haleigh removed the movie.MC her self on news video said Haleigh and JR had a fight and she put them in different rooms to watch two different movies.I believe JR.He said Haleigh never woke up.I don't know why Haleigh did not wake up.That's the part that really bothers me.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Could it be that RC doesnt need assistance in those areas because he is cooperating with LE?

That is not what the attorney stated. His rationale was that criminal charges were not pending.

I don't know about Ron cooperating. We know his attorney has had not contact with LE since April or early May. I would expect that means that Ron has not had contact either. JMO

 

[Busylady]

I might be missing it but where does it state that RC has not had contact with LE at all for 3 out of the 5 months?

BBM

How very, very sad and very telling of what happened in this case....the father of this missing child has made NO CONTACT with LE at all for 3 out of the 5 months that his child has been missing.

 

[raeann]

Do you know for a fact Misty has lied?

Well, she herself admitted that she did lie and said that she "didn't know why". It seems quite obvious, to me at least, that since she has told numerous opposing stories about what went on that night that ALL of them can not be true. NONE of them may be true at all, but at least some of them have to be lies since the stories are completely different and can not possibly all have happened. For example, how is it possible that it is true that she put Haleigh to bed at 8, then at 8:30 or 9, then at 10:00 and then "after she watched two movies" which were not put into the VCR until after 8 p.m.? How is it possible that Haleigh and JR. watched those two movies together in bed, yet one of them was put into the living room VCR for Jr. after an argument between the kids? Well, you are smart, so you get the point. There are a multitude of other examples but they have been reiterated endlessly already.

 

[Peliman]

I might be missing it but where does it state that RC has not had contact with LE at all for 3 out of the 5 months?

I might be missing it too but where does it state RC has had contact with LE?
Not to mention he was invited with his attorney.

 

[raeann]

I might be missing it but where does it state that RC has not had contact with LE at all for 3 out of the 5 months?

It states clearly in the link posted a quote from officer Greenwood that they have had no contact with the law firm since April or early May. Both RC and that law firm have clearly stated on camera and in print and in online statements that he ONLY will speak through the law firm about any issue regarding the case, and that is what has happened for months now.

 

[crwofter1]

I might be missing it but where does it state that RC has not had contact with LE at all for 3 out of the 5 months?

According to this Article, LE states they've not talked to Rc's Attorney's since late April/Early May.
http://www.staugustine.com/stories/071709/news_1754651.shtml

 

[Busylady]

I understand RC was not speaking to the media except thru the law firm. I do not believe talking to LE was an issue. IMO

It states clearly in the link posted a quote from officer Greenwood that they have had no contact with the law firm since April or early May. Both RC and that law firm have clearly stated on camera and in print and in online statements that he ONLY will speak through the law firm about any issue regarding the case, and that is what has happened for months now.

 

[lil momma]

Well, she herself admitted that she did lie and said that she "didn't know why". It seems quite obvious, to me at least, that since she has told numerous opposing stories about what went on that night that ALL of them can not be true. NONE of them may be true at all, but at least some of them have to be lies since the stories are completely different and can not possibly all have happened. For example, how is it possible that it is true that she put Haleigh to bed at 8, then at 8:30 or 9, then at 10:00 and then "after she watched two movies" which were not put into the VCR until after 8 p.m.? How is it possible that Haleigh and JR. watched those two movies together in bed, yet one of them was put into the living room VCR for Jr. after an argument between the kids? Well, you are smart, so you get the point. There are a multitude of other examples but they have been reiterated endlessly already.

BBM

ITA raeann: not to mention that out of MC's own mouth, when she walked out of the interview with the new detective, that he called here a liar... Yeah, she walked out b/c she didn't like being called a liar, but come on if LE is calling her that, it must be for some reason.

I don't know that i wouldn't call her a liar, i am just saying all the info she has given to LE has been half truth, so imo if the shoe fits.....

 

[Busylady]

I understand that I have not seen anything stating that RC has not spoken to LE.

According to this Article, LE states they've not talked to Rc's Attorney's since late April/Early May.
http://www.staugustine.com/stories/071709/news_1754651.shtml

 

[raeann]

I understand RC was not speaking to the media except thru the law firm. I do not believe talking to LE was an issue. IMO

LE has stated numerous times over the last several months that no meeting has occurred, that "they are still waiting for that meeting", etc. Since that is the number one reason that the law firm listed on what they represented him for, I doubt that they sent him in to a meeting with LE without them being present as counsel. If they did, they are liable for malpractice!

Quote:
1. The Law Office of Kimball & Snider P.A. will assist Ronald Cummings in his continuing cooperation with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, and all other police agencies in their investigation into Haleigh’s disappearance.

 

[Busylady]

"If anything comes up to be of assistance - of course, that's what everyone's hoping for, that she will be found - if there's anything we can do, fine, but all of the family law issues and all of that is really over with," Kimball said. "Therefore our part of the case is over, and everything is in the hands of the police at this point. There is nothing more that we can do."

An investigation by the Department of Children and Family Services into abuse allegations involving Ronald Cummings has been closed.

No factual findings of abuse against Cummings were found, Kimball said.

"It was their job to do the investigation and I respect their decision," Picazio said.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/07/17/news/news02.txt

 

[Busylady]

I am sorry we will just have to agree to disagree - AH sources close to the investigation don't mean much to me at all. The last statement directly from LE stated that RC and Misty were cooperating.

LE has stated numerous times over the last several months that no meeting has occurred, that "they are still waiting for that meeting", etc. Since that is the number one reason that the law firm listed on what they represented him for, I doubt that they sent him in to a meeting with LE without them being present as counsel. If they did, they are liable for malpractice!

 

[raeann]

I am sorry we will just have to agree to disagree - AH sources close to the investigation don't mean much to me at all. The last statement directly from LE stated that RC and Misty were cooperating.

I don't read Art Harris for information on this case. The quote from Officer Greenwood is directly from an article in the St. Augustine newspaper. The link is posted several times in other posts above.

 

[Peliman]

I am sorry we will just have to agree to disagree - AH sources close to the investigation don't mean much to me at all. The last statement directly from LE stated that RC and Misty were cooperating.

What date is the statement you refer. Can you provide a link please?

 

[crwofter1]

I understand that I have not seen anything stating that RC has not spoken to LE.

Are you serious?? I thought everyone in their right mind knew if a person has Lawyered Up, then the Attorney does the talking for their client, and if Rc's Attorney hasn't had contact with LE, then I guess that means RC surely hasn't either.

 

[Busylady]

I was responding to your comment about LE stating several times that the meeting had not taken place.

I do understand what you are saying, I just don't take the statement as fact that RC has not spoken to LE. Just as Crystal and Marie have spoken to LE without KP present. I don't believe RC would need an attorney to contact LE and ask the status of the investigation type thing. If they wanted to question RC and he refused they would of taken the necessary legal steps to bring him in for questioning.

I don't read Art Harris for information on this case. The quote from Officer Greenwood is directly from an article in the St. Augustine newspaper. The link is posted several times in other posts above.

 

[Busylady]

Just as Crystal and Marie have spoken to LE without KP present, I am sure RC has done the same to follow up and check the progress of things. I see nothing reported from LE that states they have not spoken to RC in 2-3 months is my point.

Are you serious?? I thought everyone in their right mind knew if a person has Lawyered Up, then the Attorney does the talking for their client, and if Rc's Attorney hasn't had contact with LE, then I guess that means RC surely hasn't either.

 

[atherella]

Are you serious?? I thought everyone in their right mind knew if a person has Lawyered Up, then the Attorney does the talking for their client, and if Rc's Attorney hasn't had contact with LE, then I guess that means RC surely hasn't either.

Everyone in the their "right mind", huh? Nice.

Sorry, that's not how it works in real life. In real life - an attorney accompanies his or her client to the police station and is present while the client is being interviewed. If there is a question the attorney does not want the client to answer, the attorney stops the client from answering, or they confer briefly. An attorney does not stop a client from speaking to LE.

 

[Busylady]

Let me finish up something else first and I will go look. There is one on Sky93 which is an audio conversation with LE, in addition there is also a news article I will search for.

What date is the statement you refer. Can you provide a link please?