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  • #241
This is O/T, but I for the life of me can't figure out what "tia" means.

and Thank You for your time!
 
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  • #243
This is O/T, but I for the life of me can't figure out what "tia" means.

and Thank You for your time!
I always thought it meant "Thought I'd Ask," LOL:doh:
Thanks for asking:o
 
  • #244
Great! So you have proof he did something to his daughter instead of being at work like LE said he was!!
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One more time: LE is satisfied with eight hours of Ron time, that is all. Nowhere does it state by anyone that he clocked in at the beginning of the shift. People saw him at sometime during the shift. No one has offered that they saw him at the beginning of the shift. He has not been cleared and for good reason. Except for the "story" by GGS that she saw Haleigh about the 7:00 pm, which she told a week after Haleigh's disappearance, no one has made a statement that they actually saw her. Have you seen one from Misty's brother saying that he saw her? Misty just states that her brother and children came over. We have not seen a statement from the AC man either. A neighbor stated that they saw children running around the yard. This is one of the reasons no one is cleared. It would be wonderful if LE could clear someone at this last date.
 
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She said she has dreaded the day when she would have to step foot inside the home. She went in to help straighten up the home from the way police left it after their search.

"The things that she played with the most are left out there right where they were. Her favorite stuff is there where she had it," Sykes said.


Though a painful task, she said she wants the home to look like the last time she saw Haleigh, at 7 p.m. before the night the child disappeared.

"They put their plates down and came and gave me a hug and a kiss. I gave Misty the clean clothes and she carried them in the house. Then, I left. I kissed her goodbye, and I left," Sykes said.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18864675/detail.html


Excuse me, but as I see it, you didn't quote her statement in its entirety. The video reveals the contradiction.
 
  • #247
Common sense should not tell you that he saw Haleigh.
1. AC men often do not enter a house as the ac unit is outside.
2. We do not know if he saw Haleigh
3. You cannot conclude that Haliegh was alive at the time even if he was in or out of the MH.

But I do agree, if he were cleared, that he had solid evidence of his whereabouts that day and evening.l

The ac/heating unit is both inside and out and of course the thermostat in inside also.
 
  • #248
There is no link where they give a direct answer on what time he arrived. You saw the link saying he was at work and the one stating they are satisfied that he was was at work during the 8 hour timeline LE has in question. You have seen the link Atherella posted showing the shift hours for PDA.

Thank you. It appears then that in no link is there a statemnet that Ronald Cummings was seen working the entire 10.5 hour shift at PDM. That is the issue that has been in question. He was at work..he was seen...no one was with him the entire time...at least we have no link stating so...LE has not said what crime was committed or when it was committed.
 
  • #249
I would absolutely love it if Sherriff Hardy would state for the record that RC was at PDM for each and every minute of the 4:30-3:00 shift. That would clear up that question. Now if they could just figure out what crime was committed and when it was committed we may be able to ascertain exactly who had the means to do it.


It would be great to have their confirmation, but it seems that LE has avoided making a definitive statement for a good reason. Irregardless, RC himself makes a huge issue of the time he spent with Haleigh after school, a story that has been contradicted by witnesses. Any interaction that he had with Haleigh, even prior to 4:30 that afternoon gives ample time for him to have struck her in anger causing serious injuries, or to have accidentally injured her with the car or any number of scenarios that would still leave him as the responsible party whether he went to work at 4:30, 6:00 or even later. His being at work for ANY amount of time proves NOTHING at all, in terms of his responsibility for her being missing. Therein lies the reason that LE has REFUSED to clear him in this case.
 
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It would be great to have their confirmation, but it seems that LE has avoided making a definitive statement for a good reason. Irregardless, RC himself makes a huge issue of the time he spent with Haleigh after school, a story that has been contradicted by witnesses. Any interaction that he had with Haleigh, even prior to 4:30 that afternoon gives ample time for him to have struck her in anger causing serious injuries, or to have accidentally injured her with the car or any number of scenarios that would still leave him as the responsible party whether he went to work at 4:30, 6:00 or even later. His being at work for ANY amount of time proves NOTHING at all, in terms of his responsibility for her being missing. Therein lies the reason that LE has REFUSED to clear him in this case.

Agreed!
 
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It would be great to have their confirmation, but it seems that LE has avoided making a definitive statement for a good reason. Irregardless, RC himself makes a huge issue of the time he spent with Haleigh after school, a story that has been contradicted by witnesses. Any interaction that he had with Haleigh, even prior to 4:30 that afternoon gives ample time for him to have struck her in anger causing serious injuries, or to have accidentally injured her with the car or any number of scenarios that would still leave him as the responsible party whether he went to work at 4:30, 6:00 or even later. His being at work for ANY amount of time proves NOTHING at all, in terms of his responsibility for her being missing. Therein lies the reason that LE has REFUSED to clear him in this case.

That's true, raeann. IMO, two events happened. In the first event, Haleigh is injured - perhaps fatally (I'm so hoping I'm wrong on that). In the second event, the injury to Haleigh is covered up. The events happen in sequence. All the participants do not necessarily have to be involved in both events.
 
  • #252
We have been over the bed thing a million times. Ronald didn't know where she was sleeping because he was at work. Misty was talking about being in the same room when she made the statement that both kids were sleeping with her, IMO.

Exactly! So explain this - when MC was asked where Haleigh was sleeping she answered "about 3-4 inches away from me" She even followed it up with - GVS asked her "Show me about how far with your hands", MC said "about how far me and Ronald are right now" (which was side by side). THEN RC say "No". MC asked him "No?" and he said it was a few feet in a different bed. How would he know, right? RC is the reason she changed her story about where they were all sleeping. He did it right on national tv. When he changed it for her, she responded with "Well, I wasn't measuring". SORRY, but no one needs to measure to know whether someone is sleeping a few inches away or a few feet in a different bed.

YouTube - Haleigh Cummings father Ronald Cummings Interview by Greta Van Susteren

About 8 min in
 
  • #253
Common sense should not tell you that he saw Haleigh.

1. AC men often do not enter a house as the ac unit is outside.
2. We do not know if he saw Haleigh
3. You cannot conclude that Haliegh was alive at the time even if he was in or out of the MH.

But I do agree, if he were cleared, that he had solid evidence of his whereabouts that day and evening.l

When the A/C repairman comes to a home that has central air conditioning, one of the first things they do is come inside the house and go directly to the thermostat. They set the thermostat at 75 or somewhere in there and then go out to the A/C unit, remove the cover and do whatever it is they do.

They come back in and check the temperature at the register the furthest away from the AC unit to see what temp the register is blowing cold air.

They then turn off the AC and turn on the heat pump and go to the register the furthest away from the AC unit to check how hot the air is blowing out of the registers.

They also check the intake filter and duct work to make sure it looks clean inside etc.

Normally the AC repairman is in the house 10 minutes during a routine maintenance check and outside at least 30 minutes or more.
 
  • #254
So, I did not read through all the posts this afternoon, but I just want to clarify something --

When I said earlier LE had stated the last time Haleigh was seen was [7pm (as when RC went to work)], I didn't mean to suggest RC had something to do with her disappearance. I thought it had been clarified RC went to work at 7, thats why I backed up that time with that info.

My interest in LE stating the last time Haleigh was seen was 7pm was to point out the fact MC said she put her to bed at 8:30 AND saw her in bed when she went to bed at 10pm. SO, it's interesting LE STILL views her last time seen as 7pm. I would think if LE meant "seen by someone other than Misty", they would say that - not "last time seen"
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About a week after Haleigh disappeared, Great Grandmother Sykes came forward and said that she went by the mobile home at around 7:00 pm to take some clothes and saw the children on the front porch eating supper. Her statement actually says: We went by and saw the children on the front proch eating. Misty, when asked by LE to name everyone who may have gone by the home that night, did not say anything about Great Grandmother Sykes coming by. There is a lot of speculation on this board tthat some of the posters think that GGS's story is bogus because it was not stated until a week later and not mentioned by Misty. This is the only story that would collaborate the 7:00 pm time.
 
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When the A/C repairman comes to a home that has central air conditioning, one of the first things they do is come inside the house and go directly to the thermostat. They set the thermostat at 75 or somewhere in there and then go out to the A/C unit, remove the cover and do whatever it is they do.

They come back in and check the temperature at the register the furthest away from the AC unit to see what temp the register is blowing cold air.

They then turn off the AC and turn on the heat pump and go to the register the furthest away from the AC unit to check how hot the air is blowing out of the registers.

They also check the intake filter and duct work to make sure it looks clean inside etc.

Normally the AC repairman is in the house 10 minutes during a routine maintenance check and outside at least 30 minutes or more.
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Has anyone seen any statement from the AC man stating who he saw while at the Cummings' residence that afternoon? I'm very interested in what he has to say.
 
  • #256
Misty is the one who stated at first that Haleigh and Jr. were in the bed with her.. Ron C also stated this to be FACT..
I doubt the scent on those sheets or that blanket had Haleigh's scent on them..
Misty did alot of washing that night.

I'm thinking this was done purposely..
Since then Ron C and Misty have both changed their story as to where Haleigh was sleeping. Ron C and Misty mislead LE.. Imagine that
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In the police report it states that they were all in the same bed. I realize I need the link. I'll find it and amend my post. I think when Ron realized that in this case, Misty would have been sleeping on the outside side of the bed facing the doorway and that the children would have been on the far side away from the doorway so the "kidnapper" would have had to reach over a sleeping adult (Misty) and maybe even over Jr. too if he were in the middle to get to Haleigh. Since this looked to be nearly impossible, Ron came up with the revised story that Haleigh was on the toddler mattress on the floor. That would have been easier to access her.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/ima.../13/putnam.pdf
 
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In the police report it states that they were all in the same bed. I realize I need the link. I'll find it and amend my post. I think when Ron realized that in this case, Misty would have been sleeping on the outside side of the bed facing the doorway and that the children would have been on the far side away from the doorway so the "kidnapper" would have had to reach over a sleeping adult (Misty) and maybe even over Jr. too if he were in the middle to get to Haleigh. Since this looked to be nearly impossible, Ron came up with the revised story that Haleigh was on the toddler mattress on the floor. That would have been easier to access her.



Excellent sleuthing... Thank you
 
  • #258
The ac/heating unit is both inside and out and of course the thermostat in inside also.

That is true, Cajun. Our a/c unit was outside, and the heating unit inside, and each had separate thermostats, although the newer ones use the same thermostat. But a technician would have to go inside to check the thermostat, after servicing the unit.
 
  • #259
Excellent sleuthing... Thank you
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To add to the bed story: Just my suspicions here, but I also have my doubts that the mattress was on the floor in the master bedroom before LE responded to the 911 call. Maybe the mattress usually sat on the bedframe in Haleigh's room. Who knows?
 
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In the police report it states that they were all in the same bed. I realize I need the link. I'll find it and amend my post. I think when Ron realized that in this case, Misty would have been sleeping on the outside side of the bed facing the doorway and that the children would have been on the far side away from the doorway so the "kidnapper" would have had to reach over a sleeping adult (Misty) and maybe even over Jr. too if he were in the middle to get to Haleigh. Since this looked to be nearly impossible, Ron came up with the revised story that Haleigh was on the toddler mattress on the floor. That would have been easier to access her.
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Just wanted to add the link I referenced in my post earlier.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf
 
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