Ron C.

[alwaysonmymind]

Ron's Dropped/abandoned Drug Charges

This is how it can be done under Florida law...

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Options to Resolve Drug Possession Cases

Pretrial Diversion
Pretrial Diversion is a diversionary program run by the State Attorney's Office and is usually reserved for first time, nonviolent offenders. The diversion program is similar to probation, in that once you are accepted into the program you must report once a month to a supervising officer, undergo random drug testing, complete community service hours, and refrain from being involved in any criminal activity. Additionally, Pretrial Diversion requires the permission of the victim of the crime you are accused of committing. Your charges will be dropped upon successful completion of Pretrial Diversion.
http://www.richardhornsby.com/criminal/drugs.html


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Successful Completion of Pretrial Diversion


"...These procedures should be followed when the defendant successfully completes pretrial
diversion and the state attorney subsequently drops the charge(s):
C
The Prosecutor Final Decision Date (page 78) should be changed to reflect the date the
paperwork is filed which dismisses the case;
C
The Final Action by the Prosecutor (page 79) should be changed to reflect code "O"
(nolle prosequi) or "L" (dropped/abandoned) depending upon the type of dismissal filed"

http://www.flcourts.org/gen_public/pubs/bin/srsmanual/OBTS_2002.pdf

<insert clappping hands here> Way to sleuth, Indigo!

DEFENDANT NOT INTERESTED IN DRUG COURT,

2003-02-04 9 DEFT DECLINED DRUG COURT, DEFT WILL FOLLOW TRADITIONAL

2003-02-04 9 COURT DOCKET

2003-04-08 22 SUBSTANCE ABUSE OFFENDER REFERRAL AGREEMENT

http://www1.putnam-fl.com/live/clkmain.asp

I HOPE this is what happened...

 

[Indigo]

Everyone has my most humble apology. I went back and corrected it. I made a mistake. I meant nothing at all by it.

I did the same thing when I started posting on this case, LaLaw2000. Put a "y" where there was none in Haleigh's name. (family member--similar name) I felt horrible about it.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I did the same thing when I started posting on this case, LaLaw2000. Put a "y" where there was none in Haleigh's name. (family member--similar name) I felt horrible about it.

Thank you for that, Indigo. I appreciate it. I have followed Haleigh's case since a couple of hours after the Amber alert broke. In fact, I was maybe the 4th poster on the Amber Alert thread. I have also been following the similiar name case going between both forums here.

We are only human and we do make mistakes. Thanks.

 

[blubuni99]

Monday, detectives re-interviewed Haleigh's dad, Ronald Cummings. They also talked to Haleigh's mother's fiance, Chad Griffis, again.

Cummings gave police a piece of paper during his interview.

Detectives told First Coast News the paper was notes of information Cummings had been keeping.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132046&catid=3

Aww, thanks! I was just wondering if it had been confirmed or not.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Bravo, Indigo!! Great job in researching! It would make sense this is what happened.

I saw the clip of Misty's father in the driveway in his wheelchair. I didn't notice a funny look, but maybe he is in a lot of pain. Poor fella.

It isn't that I feel that Ronald is a Saint here. I never said that at all. Maybe I am finally relieved to see a parent acting like they give a damn instead of like in the "other" case. TN is acting like I would expect a grandparent to act, too.

I am not seeing it from the other side of Haleigh's family and with the tirades...it makes me very suspicious. It could be a carry over from my anger towards the callousness and indifference I feel was offered to Caylee, but my heart tells me there is more behind those tirades. I started completely over on my list of suspects here and this is where it takes me.

ETA: LaLaw and Indigo, I did the same thing. I put a y in Haleigh's name for the longest time without thinking.

 

[winterrose]

If the camera time hadn't been changed in the Fall, wouldn't RC actually been seen at 1AM ?

Well,you're right,duh,we were talking at like 3am,my brain was fried. It just came in my head about the camera not having the right time and I just put it out there.I'm not really that stupid,really.LOL :crazy:

 

[TxLady2]

This is what I mean by the double standard of judgment here I don't understand. These sorts of smears against Haleigh's mother are rampant and unchallenged. But saying the same sorts of things about Ron evokes accusations of "berating a victim" and/or making assumptions without proof.

Seriously, I don't understand why it's seen as "kicking a man when he's down" when it's the daddy, but A-OK when it's the mother?

I agree. Crystal is judged because she lost custody of her kids. I've seen pundits on t.v. saying "there has to be more to this... custody is most always given to the mother." That is simply not true anymore. Judges often decide on who has a better job making more money, and then they slap child support on the non-custodial parent, which is not fair, IMO.
Crystal has been up-front about her past drug use, Ron has not. He denied even being arrested, and we have seen the arrest reports. Maybe that was several years ago, doesn't matter, he LIED about it.
I cannot understand the animosity towards the bio mom, yet giving Ron a free pass when he is guilty of statutory rape, by moving a then-16 y.o. girl in with him. He doesn't get a pass from me. There is more to this story that will come out, sooner or later, and I think a lot of people will be shocked.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Bravo, Indigo!! Great job in researching! It would make sense this is what happened.

I saw the clip of Misty's father in the driveway in his wheelchair. I didn't notice a funny look, but maybe he is in a lot of pain. Poor fella.

It isn't that I feel that Ronald is a Saint here. I never said that at all. Maybe I am finally relieved to see a parent acting like they give a damn instead of like in the "other" case. TN is acting like I would expect a grandparent to act, too.

I am not seeing it from the other side of Haleigh's family and with the tirades...it makes me very suspicious. It could be a carry over from my anger towards the callousness and indifference I feel was offered to Caylee, but my heart tells me there is more behind those tirades. I started completely over on my list of suspects here and this is where it takes me.

ETA: LaLaw and Indigo, I did the same thing. I put a y in Haleigh's name for the longest time without thinking.

(bolded by me)

I certainly agree with you about the 'tirades' from the other side. Actually, it is almost as if they 'doth protest too much' that all things bad are on Ronald's side of the family and we know that is not the case here.

Thanks! I know Haleigh's name very well.................don't know why I misspelled it.

 

[Kat]

None of them get a pass from me.

But I must say this, I do not have a problem whatsoever with a biological mother who does not have physical custody of her own children paying child support to those children.

Every child born at the very minimum deserves and should recieve financial support from both of their parents. Period.

But that IMHO a very strong opinion I will admit. But one that I feel very strongly about.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Ron did not lie about his prior record or his drug use. When asked by Geraldo...he answered in present tense. "I do not do drugs!" and when he was saying "no" while Geraldo was peppering questions at him...I believe he wasn't answering that specific question. If you watch the video...you can see it.

Crystal being upfront about past use does not make it better, imo. I wish someone would ask her point blank if she and Chad are currently doing drugs. I would like to see the response.

 

[Kat]

Here's how strongly I feel about it. Any parent that refuses for whatever reason to pay child support to their own child is a deadbeat. Regardless of the gender of that parent. IMHO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Well,you're right,duh,we were talking at like 3am,my brain was fried. It just came in my head about the camera not having the right time and I just put it out there.I'm not really that stupid,really.LOL :crazy:

I wish we knew what time he was supposed to be at work for certain so we could figure out when he got a lunch break. It probably is only 30 minutes long, but could account for being in a convenience store. (I think people are talking about the rumor that someone saw Misty in the store after I thought about it tho and it has "changed" to Ronald. Remember the ciggies rumor?)

It is standard for the custodial parent not to pay child support because they are providing the bulk of the care and money. The double standard comes in when people do not expect a mother to pay support. If it were the man...he would be another deadbeat dad to rail on. It is a two way street and should not be decided by the sex of the parent to pay or not.

 

[krimekat]

Here's how strongly I feel about it. Any parent that refuses for whatever reason to pay child support to their own child is a deadbeat. Regardless of the gender of that parent. IMHO

I agree with you, Kat. If you breed, please pay for your offspring! Our economy has crashed due to many social programs that do little to support families.

 

[kljohnson0458]

I've not suspected RC in this from the beginning. BUT last night when they started talking about the reward money growing. This is really just talking out loud and wondered if it has been discussed. Could RC need money and possibly be in cahoots with someone who has the child, keeping her hid, until the reward money gets a little higher. they possibly have an arrangement between them on how its divided. I can't see it being pulled off but it sure makes me wonder given his past and possibly present history.

 

[winterrose]

I wish we knew what time he was supposed to be at work for certain so we could figure out when he got a lunch break. It probably is only 30 minutes long, but could account for being in a convenience store. (I think people are talking about the rumor that someone saw Misty in the store after I thought about it tho and it has "changed" to Ronald. Remember the ciggies rumor?)

It is standard for the custodial parent not to pay child support because they are providing the bulk of the care and money. The double standard comes in when people do not expect a mother to pay support. If it were the man...he would be another deadbeat dad to rail on. It is a two way street and should not be decided by the sex of the parent to pay or not.

There wouldn't be much open but a convenience store to grab a drink,coffee or something to eat on a break.It just depends on where the store was and there's so many rumors,but LE would have looked at any sightings on tapes.

 

[winterrose]

Well,anything is possible,but I am leaning more towards either owing someone or old associations payback.Whoever took her is evil and no amount of anything would be more important than a child.So,if either is the case,they are dangerous.

 

[winterrose]

Maybe if there were people on that list Ronald had,he didn't want to turn over,because he felt he could have someone or himself get her without LE doing it.Maybe he felt it could be handled in a different way than swat or something.But,it might not be anyone he is suspecting,but it's a RSO,either way,I don't think Misty was there when Haleigh was taken.

 

[CeeKer]

If one is going to defend breaking the law on the basis of feeding one's children it should also be pointed out much of parenting boils down to sacrifices, and priorities. Money spent on cigarettes, alcohol and drugs eg is money that won't be available to spend on children's food, housing, clothing or other basic needs. That's not morality--it's doing the math. Better to make the needed sacrifices, find an honest way to put food on the table, and stay out of jail. JMO

arrot:

I agree parenting does boil down to sacrifices and priorities. Ron works a solid job, sought and obtained custody (having shown up to court prepared), deals with DCF scrutiny, and yet maintained custody. His priority wasn't quit the job, let the state take care of my kids while I sit around and play on Myspace. We have no indication he currently spends his money on drugs. From the photos, he clothed his children nicely. He was able to afford a three bedroom home. They look well feed. I'll give him points in the sacrifice and priority category.

 

[winterrose]

I actually took it to his credit he doesn't have a myspace,ms takes up hours of time.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Most constructions workers will run grab a sandwich and drink at a convenience store on their lunch breaks unless they brought their own. Even then, they may run to get a soda, ciggies, etc. If he were to do that...it would have to be very close to the job site as he was 27 minutes away from the house one way. (If he did have an hour for lunch...there would not be enough time to run home, take his child or help cover up, and return on time.) His employer's records are key along with witness statements from the other workers.