Ron C.

[kiki the parrot]

There is more than one level of culpability, and more than one angle that LE must continue working. Clearly their chief concern is finding the perpetrator responsible for snatching her in order to locate Haleigh and get this off the streets before he can harm anyone else. But in order to do this it's equally necessary for LE to investigate HOW this occurred because the primary CAUSE of this puzzle is WHO exactly was WATCHING Haleigh and her brother, HOW perp got INTO the home, and WHERE were the *adults* charged w their care and supervision. While personally I am not directly implicating dad, we can not afford to ignore his record or minimize his history because it's from HIS home, from HIS appointed caregiver and from HIS court-awarded custody that Haleigh went "missing." Agree w/ TxLady2 that bio mom has been 100% more forthright about her past drug involvement than dad (who did deny even a history), which decreases his, and increases her, credibility w me. Also agree w/ Jholi that "bandwagons" and one-sided "campaigning" are hindering, and not helping, this case. And agree 100% w both Jholi and TxLady2 that no one deserves to get a pass or a carte blanche endorsement--and would add that it should go w/out saying that it is especially pertinent to explore the history, parenting, associations and lifestyle of the person entrusted w custody from whose care and home this child vanished. As for any "alibi" dad hasn't been cleared, all that's been confirmed by LE is that dad did in fact report to work at some point, for some period but not what time he reported, for how long he stayed, whether any breaks were taken, nor at what time he left. In the meantime LE continues on a dual track investigation--as well they should--because in order to determine who took Haleigh the only real clues that can lead them there are WHO if anyone is claiming to have been there protecting her, HOW perp gained entry into the home or could have "stolen" a child purportedly being "watched" four feet from her caregiver, and WHAT were the risks to which Haleigh was being exposed. JMO

arrot:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree parenting does boil down to sacrifices and priorities. Ron works a solid job, sought and obtained custody (having shown up to court prepared), deals with DCF scrutiny, and yet maintained custody. His priority wasn't quit the job, let the state take care of my kids while I sit around and play on Myspace. We have no indication he currently spends his money on drugs. From the photos, he clothed his children nicely. He was able to afford a three bedroom home. They look well feed. I'll give him points in the sacrifice and priority category.

I agree. :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[Littleone48]

I agree. Crystal is judged because she lost custody of her kids. I've seen pundits on t.v. saying "there has to be more to this... custody is most always given to the mother." That is simply not true anymore. Judges often decide on who has a better job making more money, and then they slap child support on the non-custodial parent, which is not fair, IMO.
Crystal has been up-front about her past drug use, Ron has not. He denied even being arrested, and we have seen the arrest reports. Maybe that was several years ago, doesn't matter, he LIED about it.
I cannot understand the animosity towards the bio mom, yet giving Ron a free pass when he is guilty of statutory rape, by moving a then-16 y.o. girl in with him. He doesn't get a pass from me. There is more to this story that will come out, sooner or later, and I think a lot of people will be shocked.

Bold by me. If this is true then why not make Ron pay child support and provide Health Insurance for the children? No, IMO the judge gave the custody of the children to the better parent, period.

 

[Littleone48]

I agree. :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Me too! People DO grow up and DO change.

 

[winterrose]

Most constructions workers will run grab a sandwich and drink at a convenience store on their lunch breaks unless they brought their own. Even then, they may run to get a soda, ciggies, etc. If he were to do that...it would have to be very close to the job site as he was 27 minutes away from the house one way. (If he did have an hour for lunch...there would not be enough time to run home, take his child or help cover up, and return on time.) His employer's records are key along with witness statements from the other workers.

Yes,he does smoke and LE already verified he was at work.

 

[CHICANA]

Bold by me. If this is true then why not make Ron pay child support and provide Health Insurance for the children? No, IMO the judge gave the custody of the children to the better parent, period.

The child who lives with CS isn't missing, the child RC had complete custody and control of is.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I agree parenting does boil down to sacrifices and priorities. Ron works a solid job, sought and obtained custody (having shown up to court prepared), deals with DCF scrutiny, and yet maintained custody. His priority wasn't quit the job, let the state take care of my kids while I sit around and play on Myspace. We have no indication he currently spends his money on drugs. From the photos, he clothed his children nicely. He was able to afford a three bedroom home. They look well feed. I'll give him points in the sacrifice and priority category.

Was responding to a post defending and excusing dad's unlawfulness (ie hunting and firearms violations) on the basis he was forced to do so in order to feed his children. Addressing the fact that it isn't justifiable or necessary to break laws, it's hard to "feed your children" from behind bars... JMO

arrot:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

ther_beatingA_Dead We can beat the horse until it is dust, but we can't provide anything to link it to Haleigh's disappearance. The same thing applies to Ronald's, Crystal's, her parents', or their significant others' past histories.

None of them have pretty rap sheets which makes them all look like horrible people! Crystal was charged with filing false reports to LE before which legally makes her known to have lied to police (goes directly to her credibility now). Her father was responsible for maintaining the vicious business of animal fighting plus various charges of Assaults (one with a deadly weapon) and Battery. Her mother was charged with running a drug house. Her current bf was charged with cocaine possession. The list goes on and on and on...

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The child who lives with CS isn't missing, the child RC had complete custody and control of is.

All the more reason to look at the noncustodial parent.

If every parent who has had a child go missing is going to be held responsible for the actions of another person coming in and stealing their child...the Smarts and the rest would be to blame. Were they to blame? I don't think so. Did they make a mistake by not turning on their alarm that night? Yes.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

ther_beatingA_Dead We can beat the horse until it is dust, but we can't provide anything to link it to Haleigh's disappearance. The same thing applies to Ronald's, Crystal's, her parents', or their significant others' past histories.

None of them have pretty rap sheets which makes them all look like horrible people! Crystal was charged with filing false reports to LE before which legally makes her known to have lied to police (goes directly to her credibility now). Her father was responsible for maintaining the vicious business of animal fighting plus various charges of Assaults (one with a deadly weapon) and Battery. Her mother was charged with running a drug house. Her current bf was charged with cocaine possession. The list goes on and on and on...

So you're saying none of this important, yet go on to bring up bio-mom and family?? You're beating the horse yourself....

 

[tehcloser]

The fact remains that LE has NOT cleared any of these people. They are looking at them so we should be. I refuse to stand behind any of them, until they are cleared. It would be a disservice to Haleigh.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

The fact remains that LE has NOT cleared any of these people. They are looking at them so we should be. I refuse to stand behind any of them, until they are cleared. It would be a disservice to Haleigh.

I agree. Haleigh IS the victim here.

 

[CeeKer]

Well,do the FBI in Florida have certain agents that would go on big cases like missing children?I'm saying if these are the same agents or dept that were on KC's case,and the LE worked w/them,maybe they said they should keep the trailer as crimescene so they don't run into the same mess as the A house?They had to keep getting warrants and so many things could have been taken away and dumped,etc.They've not found any evidence they've released,maybe just a new policy?

Regarding the trailer not being released: Or maybe the answer is a simple one since LE takes every opportunity to stress that the family is extremely cooperative... the family doesn't have a problem with LE holding on to the scene as long as they want so it's a moot point.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

They are being extremely cooperative and no one has "lawyered up" which says a lot. I expect Misty to be the first, but it hasn't happened that we are aware of yet.

 

[CeeKer]

Was responding to a post defending and excusing dad's unlawfulness (ie hunting and firearms violations) on the basis he was forced to do so in order to feed his children. Addressing the fact that it isn't justifiable or necessary to break laws, it's hard to "feed your children" from behind bars... JMO

arrot:

I was addressing the part in your post starting with "it should also be pointed out" which had nothing to do with unlawful hunting and it wasn't in reference to not being able to provide for family because of a jail term. It was, IMO, a reference directly going to parenting. Which is what I addressed.

Originally Posted by kiki the parrot View Post
If one is going to defend breaking the law on the basis of feeding one's children it should also be pointed out much of parenting boils down to sacrifices, and priorities. Money spent on cigarettes, alcohol and drugs eg is money that won't be available to spend on children's food, housing, clothing or other basic needs. That's not morality--it's doing the math. Better to make the needed sacrifices, find an honest way to put food on the table, and stay out of jail. JMO

 

[Littleone48]

The child who lives with CS isn't missing, the child RC had complete custody and control of is.

I was posting that in response to the reason why RC got custody of the kids is because he had the means to support them (job) and Health Insurance would be available in the future. The judge could've given the custody to CS and order RC to pay child support and supply health insurance. IMO there was a reason the Judge didn't do this.

FYI I DO NOT think that CS had anything to do with this.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

So you're saying none of this important, yet go on to bring up bio-mom and family?? You're beating the horse yourself....

If you are going to look at one...you have to look at both sides. Now...out of that mess...where are you going to narrow it down? Who has motive? The list is endless if you go buy rap sheets.

If you start with the inner circle...the one with the most motive and benefit here would be the Bio mom. Ronald doesn't have a motive to take his child that I can see yet. Misty could have a motive and was the last person to be seen with Haleigh which does put her in the other column.

 

[RoseRed]

Better to make the needed sacrifices, find an honest way to put food on the table, and stay out of jail. JMO

Who has been in jail? Cigarette smoking, purchasing is not against the law.

 

[CeeKer]

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
We can beat the horse until it is dust, but we can't provide anything to link it to Haleigh's disappearance. The same thing applies to Ronald's, Crystal's, her parents', or their significant others' past histories.

None of them have pretty rap sheets which makes them all look like horrible people! Crystal was charged with filing false reports to LE before which legally makes her known to have lied to police (goes directly to her credibility now). Her father was responsible for maintaining the vicious business of animal fighting plus various charges of Assaults (one with a deadly weapon) and Battery. Her mother was charged with running a drug house. Her current bf was charged with cocaine possession. The list goes on and on and on...

So you're saying none of this important, yet go on to bring up bio-mom and family?? You're beating the horse yourself....

IMO the dead horse is being beaten because some continue to crucify with supposition, speculation, and down right bias and prejudice. And some people are having to continually bring up facts to rebutt the slant that is being put out there.

 

[winterrose]

ther_beatingA_Dead We can beat the horse until it is dust, but we can't provide anything to link it to Haleigh's disappearance. The same thing applies to Ronald's, Crystal's, her parents', or their significant others' past histories.

None of them have pretty rap sheets which makes them all look like horrible people! Crystal was charged with filing false reports to LE before which legally makes her known to have lied to police (goes directly to her credibility now). Her father was responsible for maintaining the vicious business of animal fighting plus various charges of Assaults (one with a deadly weapon) and Battery. Her mother was charged with running a drug house. Her current bf was charged with cocaine possession. The list goes on and on and on...

Her mother was charged with running a drug house?Dang,I thought when they were talking about charges with her,it was like bad traffic tickets or something.WTH When was this charge?