Ron C.

[tiredofthis]

I have no side to be on. I don't like or believe any of them!

I certainly don't believe them.

 

[mydailyopinions]

I still think it was simply to get him away from other people so they could speak freely instead of sitting in the car or driving several miles to the command center.

I hope so SS! I have always felt this is all on Misty and she put Haleigh in that river.
I would hate the thought that LE may feel the same way and have took him there to talk..the thought of it just fires me up.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Good, I hope he proves us all right and keeps up the good work!

If he doesn't, I will let G'ma Sykes handle him. LOL

 

[Indigo]

I know,that's what I'm saying.But,I also want to look at reasons behind what happened.I don't know these people,I'm so sad a child is missing.What we should be doing is looking at this with the facts we have instead of emotionally and taking sides.It's like we've all fallen into to this family feud.This has become more of a support forum for either side instead of sleuthing and this is what we do.

Excellent post, winterrose. Over the years I've come to realize that we won't always have the same point of view on this forum, but that's good--because there's always somebody covering the other track for us. I've never seen a group of people who care so much. Granted, WS passion can be skeery at times ha, ha! But without it, how would we keep our eyes propped open at 2 AM?

Whenever these cases come up, I admit a personal bias. My first thought is usually--'pedophile.' From there, I start with statement analysis to get my clues. It doesn't always lead where I expect.

 

[CeeKer]

Regarding LE being tight lipped. What I find "interesting" is the willingness of the family to let it play out the way LE is letting it play out. Not one word of criticism. No protestations of "clear us". No lawyering up. No PR representation. I read an article yesterday (although I couldn't find it today) that said the Sheriff "himself" went to the Cummings house to physically put up the No Trespass signs. I don't know if it's true, but if it is, I think it's a very "telling" action by LE.

 

[CeeKer]

Ah Ha,I wish she had of,I would loved that.

THAT, I think, is something we can all agree on!!! LOL!

 

[scandi]

The only reason I can think of why LE won't clear anyone is because they don't want anyone to lawyer up yet. They surely have a good idea of a POI by now. Why they feel it is in their best interest or Haleigh's not to name the POI is beyond me?! They need to start applying some REAL pressure in this case where it needs to be applied or they are going to end up with nothing.

Your thought would explain why Ron hasn't been cleared if he does indeed have a solid alibi at work.

Maybe another reason not to name a POI now is they don't want to jeopardize that person splitting the scene. If the person is either a hot-head, drinks allot or does drugs, who knows what they could do. I think they want all their i's dotted before they name someone publicly.


Kiki, I so agree with your post about going back and concentrating on the crime scene and the people known to be there at the time and before she went missing. That is an old standard in police work and is how they solve COLD CASES.

I also think Pat Brown's take on the crime is spot on. It was someone who was familiar with the family, their lifestyle and the inside of that trailer. And I learned this morning they moved into that place in November so had only lived there a little over 3 months.

The exception which I also can not rule out is it was a tragic accident causing her death and for some reason a decision was made to hide the body and cover up the crime.

 

[harleysnana]

I agree. Crystal is judged because she lost custody of her kids. I've seen pundits on t.v. saying "there has to be more to this... custody is most always given to the mother." That is simply not true anymore. Judges often decide on who has a better job making more money, and then they slap child support on the non-custodial parent, which is not fair, IMO.
Crystal has been up-front about her past drug use, Ron has not. He denied even being arrested, and we have seen the arrest reports. Maybe that was several years ago, doesn't matter, he LIED about it.
I cannot understand the animosity towards the bio mom, yet giving Ron a free pass when he is guilty of statutory rape, by moving a then-16 y.o. girl in with him. He doesn't get a pass from me. There is more to this story that will come out, sooner or later, and I think a lot of people will be shocked.

Are you saying that a Judge would look at both sides criminal history,
and then give custody to the parent who made more money?

IMO there is a reason that Ron was given custody and it wasn't because he
made more money than her!

Look at her myspace.... it shows how much she cared about Haleigh and her
brother!
Also if she had a problem with Misty babysitting why did she not do something
about it BEFORE Haleigh went missing?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I have to agree with the passion of WSers. We are a very dedicated group who do tend to burn the midnight oil and stay on cases like no other group I have ever seen. And bumping heads is a good thing! I know more than a few times, I have had my eyes opened by other posters' views which I would never have seen.

 

[cajun]

Regarding LE being tight lipped. What I find "interesting" is the willingness of the family to let it play out the way LE is letting it play out. Not one word of criticism. No protestations of "clear us". No lawyering up. No PR representation. I read an article yesterday (although I couldn't find it today) that said the Sheriff "himself" went to the Cummings house to physically put up the No Trespass signs. I don't know if it's true, but if it is, I think it's a very "telling" action by LE.

You're right. the sheriff,himself, came out with the no trespass order for Geraldo, which he refused to sign.

 

[kellync]

Regarding LE being tight lipped. What I find "interesting" is the willingness of the family to let it play out the way LE is letting it play out. Not one word of criticism. No protestations of "clear us". No lawyering up. No PR representation. I read an article yesterday (although I couldn't find it today) that said the Sheriff "himself" went to the Cummings house to physically put up the No Trespass signs. I don't know if it's true, but if it is, I think it's a very "telling" action by LE.

If I could CeeKer, what do you think about LE putting up the no tresspass signs? I am having a hard time trying to wrap my head around this one. Is it to keep the peace between families and media, or is it to keep the peace with the family and LE? I'd like to "hear" your thoughts. TIA

 

[cajun]

Your thought would explain why Ron hasn't been cleared if he does indeed have a solid alibi at work.

Maybe another reason not to name a POI now is they don't want to jeopardize that person splitting the scene. If the person is either a hot-head, drinks allot or does drugs, who knows what they could do. I think they want all their i's dotted before they name someone publicly.


Kiki, I so agree with your post about going back and concentrating on the crime scene and the people known to be there at the time and before she went missing. That is an old standard in police work and is how they solve COLD CASES.

I also think Pat Brown's take on the crime is spot on. It was someone who was familiar with the family, their lifestyle and the inside of that trailer. And I learned this morning they moved into that place in November so had only lived there a little over 3 months.

The exception which I also can not rule out is it was a tragic accident causing her death and for some reason a decision was made to hide the body and cover up the crime.

If Misty was the cause of the accident, I can't see Ron ever covering up for her. Now her family is another story.

 

[LaLaw2000]

These are the exact reasons why I think they know what happened and are waiting on labs to come back so that they can gather as much information from those in that home first, before they make that arrest that will cut their chances of questioning out.
I truly believe if LE felt this was an abduction, they would make a plea to the public to call in information during that time line. They are not doing that.
One thing that bothers me is the detectives taking Ron down to the docs to talk to him. That isn't normal at all. I don't think he had anything to do with it myself, but what was the purpose of taking him there?

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I agree with you, mydailyopinions. There have been no appeals on TV for anyone to call in with any information regarding a stranger in the area or for seeing anyone behaving suspiciously, or a strange vehicle in the area. Well, not that I have seen anyway! I could be wrong.

Maybe LE took Ronald to the dock to see if he was uncomfortable there and also to see where his eyes might dart to. Wouldn't be a bad idea to give Misty and Crystal a little walk around the dock for that matter! I really do not know. I wish I did. I am saying that because the dogs went to the dock the morning Haleigh disappeared, and I do not believe it was because of the wind direction as someone has stated.

I saw on the video where Ronald was going to the unmarked detectives vehicle yesterday. Next thing I knew, they were at the dock.

This just beats all I have ever seen. To me, this is a very unorthodox investigation. JMO

 

[mydailyopinions]

If Misty was the cause of the accident, I can't see Ron ever covering up for her. Now her family is another story.

I can't see that happening either. I know what I would do.

 

[CeeKer]

Originally Posted by TxLady2 View Post
I agree. Crystal is judged because she lost custody of her kids. I've seen pundits on t.v. saying "there has to be more to this... custody is most always given to the mother." That is simply not true anymore. Judges often decide on who has a better job making more money, and then they slap child support on the non-custodial parent, which is not fair, IMO.
Crystal has been up-front about her past drug use, Ron has not. He denied even being arrested, and we have seen the arrest reports. Maybe that was several years ago, doesn't matter, he LIED about it.
I cannot understand the animosity towards the bio mom, yet giving Ron a free pass when he is guilty of statutory rape, by moving a then-16 y.o. girl in with him. He doesn't get a pass from me. There is more to this story that will come out, sooner or later, and I think a lot of people will be shocked.

Crystal is judged because she lost custody of her kids.
I honestly don't judge Crystal for not having custody. Although I find myself talking about it often as a rebuttal to a variety of arguments.

I cannot understand the animosity towards the bio mom, yet giving Ron a free pass
I don't give Ron a free pass and the only real problem I have with Bio Mom was the GR stunt (although logically I believe they "acted out" in frustration), but I'm hesitant to saying anything negative about Ron because of the bias towards him here as a male who has a dominate personality.

he is guilty of statutory rape, by moving a then-16 y.o. girl in with him.
And yet her own father was quoted as follows:

Croslin said his daughter and Cummings have been together for several months, and at first he did not like the arrangement. He did not initially like that Cummings first said he was 19, then 21.

As he has watched the couple, his opinion has changed, he said.

"I'd rather see my daughter with someone like him," he said. "You don't see too many 25-year-old men take care of two kids."

He said his daughter and Cummings were dedicated to Haleigh and Cummings' son.

"I've never seen that girl without a smile," he said of Haleigh. "Both of those kids were happy."

http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher...87600&start=20

The same article makes it sound as if DCF put the care of the children ahead of a legal technicality.

 

[mydailyopinions]

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I agree with you, mydailyopinions. There have been no appeals on TV for anyone to call in with any information regarding a stranger in the area or for seeing anyone behaving suspiciously, or a strange vehicle in the area. Well, not that I have seen anyway! I could be wrong.

Maybe LE took Ronald to the dock to see if he was uncomfortable there and also to see where his eyes might dart to. Wouldn't be a bad idea to give Misty and Crystal a little walk around the dock for that matter! I really do not know. I wish I did. I am saying that because the dogs went to the dock the morning Haleigh disappeared, and I do not believe it was because of the wind direction as someone has stated.

I saw on the video where Ronald was going to the unmarked detectives vehicle yesterday. Next thing I knew, they were at the dock.

This just beats all I have ever seen. To me, this is a very unorthodox investigation. JMO

I think they should just take Misty down to the docks myself. Give her the same talk that detectives give Casey when they talked to her about accidents, and then the horrible monsters scenario. Maybe they could get some kind of reaction.

 

[CeeKer]

If I could CeeKer, what do you think about LE putting up the no tresspass signs? I am having a hard time trying to wrap my head around this one. Is it to keep the peace between families and media, or is it to keep the peace with the family and LE? I'd like to "hear" your thoughts. TIA

I think LE wants to keep "peace" with the family so they can continue their investigation unhindered, and/or, they really feel sorry for the Cummings family and didn't think this attack was deserved. I would think that if they wanted to "crack" the Cummings, they would have welcomed the added pressure and let them get/put up their own signs.

Or maybe their resources are so thin they just plain didn't want to deal with investigating the murder of GR!! JUST KIDDING (sort of!)

 

[LaLaw2000]

I think they should just take Misty down to the docks myself. Give her the same talk that detectives give Casey when they talked to her about accidents, and then the horrible monsters scenario. Maybe they could get some kind of reaction.

Good idea!

 

[CeeKer]

Originally Posted by mydailyopinions View Post
I think they should just take Misty down to the docks myself. Give her the same talk that detectives give Casey when they talked to her about accidents, and then the horrible monsters scenario. Maybe they could get some kind of reaction.
Good idea!

Good idea!

YES! And without her pack of cigarettes (and I say that as a smoker LOL)

 

[scandi]

Hi LA Law, I have a question about the dogs.

They were tracker dogs I assume. The trail of scent they followed was an exceptionally long one IMO. All the way down to the pond, back up and over to make that circle and then back past the trailer area to another roadway. I don't know where on that map they went to the river dock.

Does that mean Haleigh covered that whole track? It is a long ways, and I don't think a little girl could walk that far. Maybe she was carried and her skin cells shed along the way, but still, why would a perp walk her around like that?

I know we don't know the answers, but maybe you have some ideas about it.