Ron C.

[winterrose]

I wonder if what he handed over to LE was a note left by them?And wouldn't bigger dealers know how stupid it would be with all the country's attention to this?Maybe some punks in the area.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I would also like to add,and it's speculation,that this is the reason LE is so tight lipped.And also why RC is angry w/LE,he was helping them and his daughter got taken.This probably stemmed from his charges years ago,to get off of them as he did,he said he would help them.They do not like to let go of informants.He had serious drugs and that would mean it's not a petty drug dealer and they are bad enough they would take a child.The good part of this is she could be held somewhere,it's a matter of finding where and how to get her.

Sadly, it is a very risky business if you have little ones at home. Drug dealers will find you no matter where you go if you have turned one in. After a little while, you would not be useful as these dealers will put two and two together and know who turned them in. JMO

I actually worked with a woman at the jail that had been caught with some small time drugs. She was immediately terminated. She got a fine and probation and was charged with Malfeasance. She went on to make some small buys for the narcotic officers, stopped that, and is now a drug offender herself! That is just one risk. And she no longer has her teenagers. They were taken away. *****In no way am I saying that Ronald would do this.

I would prefer to think that Ronald was not an informant.

 

[radio]

Sadly, it is a very risky business if you have little ones at home. Drug dealers will find you no matter where you go if you have turned one in. After a little while, you would not be useful as these dealers will put two and two together and know who turned them in. JMO

I actually worked with a woman at the jail that had been caught with some small time drugs. She was immediately terminated. She got a fine and probation and was charged with Malfeasance. She went on to make some small buys for the narcotic officers, stopped that, and is now a drug offender herself! That is just one risk. And she no longer has her teenagers. They were taken away. *****In no way am I saying that Ronald would do this.

I would prefer to think that Ronald was not an informant.

Excuse my street ignorance here -- but is an ... and what kids call a .... the same thing or different?

 

[LaLaw2000]

Undercover LE will do drugs w/the dealers,if they don't,they would be suspected.He might just be smoking pot with them,you know,not hardcore.Just enough to not look like he's an informant.He could have been between a rock and a hard place.I think Crystal has really screwed up this weekend.Then again this could be what I thought about before,he turned someone in before,they'll wait a long time before they do something,but why take her?Was it someone totally stupid and just did it without thinking?When I heard dressed in black,I thought it was a planned taking of her,someone younger possibly,not an older RSO as Timothy.

Do you think Ronald was undercover LE? I really don't. But he could have turned in his supplier and even did a 'buy' for LE.

 

[Melanie]

since they are renting the mobile home, maybe the owner has final say as to whether LE can keep it corded off as a crime scene.

Probably on Sun March 1, rent will be due and maybe Ron won't be able to pay the rent on it for another month since he hasn't been working. And since it's been said he'll never live there again anyway, the landlord may just take it back. Course their stuff would still be in there...

Ohhhh...did I miss something? RC said he'll never live there again anyway. Didn't Scott Peterson say the same thing, and even looked into selling the house shortly after Laci went missing? Someone who wants to move on so quickly, KNOWS someone is NOT coming back.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm....

Melanie

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't know where you saw this item about the sheriff, but this is the same answer we got about Haleigh being at school and every other question...so I would say it is his standard answer and it means nothing. Let's not get it started that he is that again! (I believe someone solved that mystery today.)

 

[kidz110]

Oh, FGS! If not, why not just say he was not an informant???? Now, his answer would fit if Ronald was an informant. Just adding more mystery with that comment.

I actually never thought Ronald was an informant, but that he maybe had given up his supplier.

I agree, LaLaw2000. I think if he was an informant and working for LE, Geraldo never would have made it up to the front door. I would think they would have protection for him. JMO

 

[LaLaw2000]

Excuse my street ignorance here -- but is an ... and what kids call a .... the same thing or different?

radio, we cannot use that word here, per JBean. So, maybe it can be termed as an exchange of information in return for not prosecuting.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Ohhhh...did I miss something? RC said he'll never live there again anyway. Didn't Scott Peterson say the same thing, and even looked into selling the house shortly after Laci went missing? Someone who wants to move on so quickly, KNOWS someone is NOT coming back.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm....

Melanie

His mom, TN, said it. We didn't see Ronald say it and it wasn't an exact quote.

 

[kellync]

Excuse my street ignorance here -- but is an ... and what kids call a .... the same thing or different?

In my mind, ***** would be caught with drugs, and would immediately tell LE who he bought them from to escape pending, immedate charges. An informant, IMO would be an ongoing thing, whereas the person would pretend to be a friend/buyer of the drug dealer, but would continue to gather information not only on the supplier, but anyone else involved, such as higher ups, or other dealers, and would routinely report info to LE. I am open for correction here, but that's my take on it..

 

[Leila]

I think that Captain just answered the question if Ron was an informant,he just said he would not answer one way or the other.IMO Why would he not say,no he is not.Just saying..They did confirm with JO that he was not a suspect,so why not say that RC was not an informant?

I saw that and wondered too, why the captain wouldn't say one way or the other. If RC isn't an informant, why not just say "no, he isn't." The only conclusion, from what the captain said, is that RC may very well be an informant.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I agree, LaLaw2000. I think if he was an informant and working for LE, Geraldo never would have made it up to the front door. I would think they would have protection for him. JMO

The usefulness to LE of someone in a small area is limited. They will be found out after a few times. JMO

 

[Busylady]

I wouldnt put much into LE not stating one way or the other if Ron was an informant. They would not verify something as simple as Haleigh was in school that day. I just think LE is not verifying a darn thing.

I personally think the 911 call would of gone very different if Ron as an informant. I think the early post explaining how Florida handles drug charges explains why Ron did not do any time and charges appear to have been dropped or dismissed.

 

[kellync]

radio, we cannot use that word here, per JBean. So, maybe it can be termed as an exchange of information in return for not prosecuting.

I was under the impression we could not use the word in accusatory terms to a specific individual. To use the word wouldnt be against the rules, IMO, unless it is used to describe someone..

 

[radio]

radio, we cannot use that word here, per JBean. So, maybe it can be termed as an exchange of information in return for not prosecuting.

La - thanks for the heads up.:silenced:
I edited my post ... please edit
it on your response!!!
Thanks Bud!!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

To nip this in the bud:

Originally Posted by Indigo
Ron's Dropped/abandoned Drug Charges

This is how it can be done under Florida law...

<snipped>

Options to Resolve Drug Possession Cases

Pretrial Diversion
Pretrial Diversion is a diversionary program run by the State Attorney's Office and is usually reserved for first time, nonviolent offenders. The diversion program is similar to probation, in that once you are accepted into the program you must report once a month to a supervising officer, undergo random drug testing, complete community service hours, and refrain from being involved in any criminal activity. Additionally, Pretrial Diversion requires the permission of the victim of the crime you are accused of committing. Your charges will be dropped upon successful completion of Pretrial Diversion.
http://www.richardhornsby.com/criminal/drugs.html


<snipped>

Successful Completion of Pretrial Diversion


"...These procedures should be followed when the defendant successfully completes pretrial
diversion and the state attorney subsequently drops the charge(s):
C
The Prosecutor Final Decision Date (page 78) should be changed to reflect the date the
paperwork is filed which dismisses the case;
C
The Final Action by the Prosecutor (page 79) should be changed to reflect code "O"
(nolle prosequi) or "L" (dropped/abandoned) depending upon the type of dismissal filed"

http://www.flcourts.org/gen_public/pubs/bin/srsmanual/OBTS_2002.pdf

 

[winterrose]

Sadly, it is a very risky business if you have little ones at home. Drug dealers will find you no matter where you go if you have turned one in. After a little while, you would not be useful as these dealers will put two and two together and know who turned them in. JMO

I actually worked with a woman at the jail that had been caught with some small time drugs. She was immediately terminated. She got a fine and probation and was charged with Malfeasance. She went on to make some small buys for the narcotic officers, stopped that, and is now a drug offender herself! That is just one risk. And she no longer has her teenagers. They were taken away. *****In no way am I saying that Ronald would do this.

I would prefer to think that Ronald was not an informant.

Smaller dealers will hook up with new bigger dealers,wind up owing alot and I can see going in to get what they think is owed,but to take a child,this is not understandable.More than a threat or hold the child till they get what's owed.Seems they would be smart enough they wouldn't get anything,LE and media would be all over it.Unless these are big guys and they're making a statement to alot of area dealers that would screw them over or owe them.Like a cartel in the region,this is all just spectulation,but want to throw it out there.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I wouldnt put much into LE not stating one way or the other if Ron was an informant. They would not verify something as simple as Haleigh was in school that day. I just think LE is not verifying a darn thing.

Thank you! My thoughts exactly!!

 

[Leila]

Would an informant also be a drug user as his x wife suggests?
And, has anyone learned anything about why Child Services has a file on Ron and his kids?

Last night on Greta, her reporter there in Satsuma, confirmed that DCF has been involved with RC at that address on Green Lane within the past year. The reporter pointed out that RC has only lived at that address for about 5 months, and that would mean that DCF has been involved sometime in the past 5 months. So the file is recent.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I don't know where you saw this item about the sheriff, but this is the same answer we got about Haleigh being at school and every other question...so I would say it is his standard answer and it means nothing. Let's not get it started that he is that again! (I believe someone solved that mystery today.)

What item about the sheriff, SS? TIA