Ron & Timmy connection?

[cyberborg]

I'll break some news here, right after Hank and Lisa were arrested I got a telephone call from a crying Chelsea Croslin, where she was basically pimping Timmy for money. Timmy would agree to an interview, as long as I paid for their transportation to Florida to see Hank/Lisa.

She laid on the tears thick! Told a sad story about the family, I mean this woman is a good actor. Very manipulative.

Needless to say, I'm a little suspicious of her. I've always been interested in interviewing her after she went on NG and was discussing the pills laying all over the trailer, but I'm not interested in talking with her or Timmy if they want money in exchange for the interview.

Interesting! Maybe Chelsea both needs the money AND needs to talk. I think that her conscience is eating her up and she wants some assurance that Timmy and herself are off the hook. Finality. She is in a catch-22 because she wants relief from the stress but NOT to turn Misty (and/or Ron) in. IMHO.

 

[grace60]

It would be interesting to see how quick they would be arrested for drugs if they did come down here. I have a pretty good gut feeling at least one of the 2 could not do without drugs.

 

[LoveEndsWar]

The truth always finds a way out......

I think those are the strongest theories, either Misty was partaking of drugs again after her 3-day binge and HaLeigh got into them while Misty was spaced out or, Misty lashed out in frustration and spite.

It was an unusual night, the first night back together with LOTS of friction between Misty and Ron. We don't need to add other players into the mix and make it complex. It is not.

It is as simple as an accidental O.D., with both caregivers being druggies or an un-intended death as an outcome of drugs --- e.g., overly vicious smack and a cover-up.

If true Misty would call Timmy and Chelsea for help and this is something they are more likely to unite and cover-up and support Misty/Ron on.

It makes me wonder by Chelsea's actions ... the tattoo, the anonymously providing tips to the dump site, calling into NG, talking about drugs laying everywhere .... whether Chelsea has more of a conscience than Misty and Ron and wants this to come out (safely) both to ease her conscience of guilt but also take the constant pressure off them -- which is literally destroying the extended family and keeping them in limbo.

It'd drive me crazy to watch my back everyday, check the news, see if something is coming down, etc --- it is a storm over their heads that haunts them and they are not free to move on and live life. In many ways it is worse than the actual punishment ..... like those on the run who are relieved to be caught and back in jail.

I got the chills reading this. I keep thinking about the "I know what you did last summer" movie. and I agree the tattoo and those wild statements, how she threw that out there was "interesting". Shes desperate for money and wants the answers out. I get this impression as well.
If this was an accident, well its too far now.
I swing between Misty being there on drugs..(not really there huh?)
Misty raging and tired.
and
Misty sneaking out...(either drugging Haleigh (KC much..? so close to Caylee case timeframe-) or Haleigh getting into something)
I definitely sense a cover up
and of course abduction lingers there...
Thanks for sharing Levi. interesting indeed! I can't blame you!
Man!
They dont want to talk to them on the phone because everyone knows whats said, same with a letter with all of them in jail.
This is why they need a face to face? They need to get down and get that car too Im sure. Say what they CAN say. If it was just I love you, well they could say that without seeing each other.
I hope something happens.
I take comfort in knowing how its not all forgotten in Mass. Outta sight but not outta mind. I always thought her part from the beginning when she said that she got a phone call and found out Haleigh was missing...and what did she do? Oh thats right, she went to sleep...was a way bit off.

Excuse me for a minute, Yo Lenny! Alright Im back, forgive me and my tourettes! Seriosly though, I wish we could get her or him on JVM and you could holler at em. Lol.
Its sad they wont talk for free, for the record, and set it straight because it is the right thing to do. I hope they will though, and I think they know. JMO. I think Lindsay should take interviews too. Why not? All JMO.

 

[tehcloser]

I'll break some news here, right after Hank and Lisa were arrested I got a telephone call from a crying Chelsea Croslin, where she was basically pimping Timmy for money. Timmy would agree to an interview, as long as I paid for their transportation to Florida to see Hank/Lisa.

She laid on the tears thick! Told a sad story about the family, I mean this woman is a good actor. Very manipulative.

Needless to say, I'm a little suspicious of her. I've always been interested in interviewing her after she went on NG and was discussing the pills laying all over the trailer, but I'm not interested in talking with her or Timmy if they want money in exchange for the interview.

lol. Is there anything this family won't do for money besides a hard days work at an honest job? :snooty:

 

[titanfan62702]

Thank you, borg. I've been feeling like the Lone Ranger lately.

Hank was in the hospital after suffering severe injuries in an accident that occurred just days earlier. That was an additional stressor contributing to Misty's mood that night. Regardless of whether or not he was a wonderful parent, he is her father and they're a close family.

Somehow I have a hard time picturing Misty thinking of anyone but Misty, and maybe Ron.

 

[Emeralgem]

Levi, I've thought for sometime now Chelsey's main concern is protecting herself and Timmy.. I believe Misty called her when the incident occurred or either she was there when the incident happened...Since Ron and Timmy are so close and Timmy is Misty's favorite too.. I believe Misty is protecting Ron, Timmy and Chelsey...And Chesley is protecting Timmy, Misty and herself.. And Chelsey doesn't really care IF Tommy and Jo are implicated, just as long as she and Timmy aren't...JMHOOTS

 

[Donjeta]

I wonder how much money it would take for one of them to roll over and tell everything.

 

[nomad]

Thank you Levi-
I wonder why Chelsea would be crying over Timmy's going to see Lisa and Hank in jail? It's not like they're laid up in the hospital or anything..If they don't have travel money, why is it that important that they go? Why do they need to visit them in jail? Just wondering out loud

 

[KSH352]

I wish we knew WHY Timmy thinks if he comes back to Florida he'll be arrested.
- Drug-related?
- Haleigh-related?
- Other?
I would have to think if it was something serious or significant, though, Florida LE would go through a process with MA LE to get him back to FL.

While you are talking about Timmy here:

I heard this statement (in red above) from Timmy on an audio tape. He is talking to Tommy.''

Can anyone help me find that tape. I have listened to the audios over and over until I am sick of a the special four letter adjectives they use. And You know what they are..ugh

It IMPORTANT that I find it.

Help Please?
I really would appreciate it.

Thank you!

 

[TobyWong*]

I wonder how much money it would take for one of them to roll over and tell everything.

Why do I picture "cannonball run"? And how sad.

I really wish I had a flat million to give. I can't imagine it take long.

 

[Crosby87]

While you are talking about Timmy here:

I heard this statement (in red above) from Timmy on an audio tape. He is talking to Tommy.''

Can anyone help me find that tape. I have listened to the audios over and over until I am sick of a the special four letter adjectives they use. And You know what they are..ugh

It IMPORTANT that I find it.

Help Please?
I really would appreciate it.

Thank you!

I couldn't get a copy of the audio but in this CNN transcript, Tommy asks Timmy to come visit him in jail.

TOMMY CROSLIN: All I know is if she keeps making up all these lies, I`m not going to have nothing to do with her. It`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) she`s trying to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) to put me in the middle of something I don`t know nothing about.

They ain`t got nothing to get you on, you can come up, dude. (INAUDIBLE)

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know but it`s just bad timing, dude, because Chelsea`s cleared of suspect, I`m not.

TOMMY CROSLIN: Oh well, you didn`t do nothing wrong, they can`t nothing to you. They can`t. They got to have proof, dude, and you didn`t do nothing anyway because they ain`t never going to be any proof.

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know, but look, do you think any of this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) would have happened to you if this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) wasn`t going on in our lives about Haleigh?

TOMMY CROSLIN: No. Hell no. How long did I do stuff before that and nothing happened?

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know. That`s what I`m saying so. I just think they`re just out to get us. That`s what I mean. You know what I mean?

TOMMY CROSLIN: I know they are. But I think this time -- this time all this entrapment and stuff, they weren`t after me. They were after Misty and Ronald. I just got caught up in the middle of it because of my damn sister.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

http://edition.cnn.hu/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/15/ng.01.html

 

[KSH352]

I couldn't get a copy of the audio but in this CNN transcript, Tommy asks Timmy to come visit him in jail.

TOMMY CROSLIN: All I know is if she keeps making up all these lies, I`m not going to have nothing to do with her. It`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) she`s trying to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) to put me in the middle of something I don`t know nothing about.

They ain`t got nothing to get you on, you can come up, dude. (INAUDIBLE)

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know but it`s just bad timing, dude, because Chelsea`s cleared of suspect, I`m not.

TOMMY CROSLIN: Oh well, you didn`t do nothing wrong, they can`t nothing to you. They can`t. They got to have proof, dude, and you didn`t do nothing anyway because they ain`t never going to be any proof.

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know, but look, do you think any of this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) would have happened to you if this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) wasn`t going on in our lives about Haleigh?

TOMMY CROSLIN: No. Hell no. How long did I do stuff before that and nothing happened?

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know. That`s what I`m saying so. I just think they`re just out to get us. That`s what I mean. You know what I mean?

TOMMY CROSLIN: I know they are. But I think this time -- this time all this entrapment and stuff, they weren`t after me. They were after Misty and Ronald. I just got caught up in the middle of it because of my damn sister.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

http://edition.cnn.hu/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/15/ng.01.html

Thank you for the transcript.

What I heard and others listened to it also was:

Timmy: I want to come down but I'm afraid I'll be arrested
Tommy: there is no evidence it is gone.

They could be talking about drugs or whatever.

I can't find that darn tape

 

[dodie20]

I wonder how much money it would take for one of them to roll over and tell everything.

well, obviously, more than 35 thou.

 

[dodie20]

I couldn't get a copy of the audio but in this CNN transcript, Tommy asks Timmy to come visit him in jail.

TOMMY CROSLIN: All I know is if she keeps making up all these lies, I`m not going to have nothing to do with her. It`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) she`s trying to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) to put me in the middle of something I don`t know nothing about.

They ain`t got nothing to get you on, you can come up, dude. (INAUDIBLE)

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know but it`s just bad timing, dude, because Chelsea`s cleared of suspect, I`m not.

TOMMY CROSLIN: Oh well, you didn`t do nothing wrong, they can`t nothing to you. They can`t. They got to have proof, dude, and you didn`t do nothing anyway because they ain`t never going to be any proof.

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know, but look, do you think any of this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) would have happened to you if this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) wasn`t going on in our lives about Haleigh?

TOMMY CROSLIN: No. Hell no. How long did I do stuff before that and nothing happened?

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know. That`s what I`m saying so. I just think they`re just out to get us. That`s what I mean. You know what I mean?

TOMMY CROSLIN: I know they are. But I think this time -- this time all this entrapment and stuff, they weren`t after me. They were after Misty and Ronald. I just got caught up in the middle of it because of my damn sister.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

http://edition.cnn.hu/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/15/ng.01.html

'I just got caught up in the middle of it because of my damn sister'. Well well welll....he wishes. & what did he mean by, 'But I think this time'? What other time is he comparing it to? My interpretation of this, is that he is directing listeners, (LE), towards Misty & Ronald. I think he's casually, throwing them under the bus, while alibing himself & Timmy.

 

[kamky]

While you are talking about Timmy here:

I heard this statement (in red above) from Timmy on an audio tape. He is talking to Tommy.''

Can anyone help me find that tape. I have listened to the audios over and over until I am sick of a the special four letter adjectives they use. And You know what they are..ugh

It IMPORTANT that I find it.

Help Please?
I really would appreciate it.

Thank you!

I'm still looking. Per this article in First Coast News on Feb 8, 20 10 "Seven phone calls between Tommy Croslin and his brother Timmy have been released." http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=151759&catid=3

 

[KSH352]

I agree with some posters here that
Misty would call Timmy before Tommy. And back when all this was going on I thought it odd it was just how fast Timmy and family left town. Very quietly also. Why would he leave his sister when she was in such a mess?

 

[Kimster]

I've always thought the issue with the van being used that night was hinky. Why wouldn't they have questioned Joe more? The way Timmy and Chelsea reacted made NO sense to me.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I'm still looking. Per this article in First Coast News on Feb 8, 20 10 "Seven phone calls between Tommy Croslin and his brother Timmy have been released." http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=151759&catid=3

Timmy left town, how is this affecting his life? He tells Tommy in one of the calls that any of this [expletive] would've happened to you if this [expletive] wasn't going on in our life about Haleigh? Why would he say OUR life?

Timmy Croslin: You think this, any of this [expletive] would've happened to you if this [expletive] wasn't going on in our life about Haleigh?

 

[suspicious1]

I couldn't get a copy of the audio but in this CNN transcript, Tommy asks Timmy to come visit him in jail.

TOMMY CROSLIN: All I know is if she keeps making up all these lies, I`m not going to have nothing to do with her. It`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) she`s trying to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) to put me in the middle of something I don`t know nothing about.

They ain`t got nothing to get you on, you can come up, dude. (INAUDIBLE)

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know but it`s just bad timing, dude, because Chelsea`s cleared of suspect, I`m not.

TOMMY CROSLIN: Oh well, you didn`t do nothing wrong, they can`t nothing to you. They can`t. They got to have proof, dude, and you didn`t do nothing anyway because they ain`t never going to be any proof.

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know, but look, do you think any of this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) would have happened to you if this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) wasn`t going on in our lives about Haleigh?

TOMMY CROSLIN: No. Hell no. How long did I do stuff before that and nothing happened?

TIMMY CROSLIN: I know. That`s what I`m saying so. I just think they`re just out to get us. That`s what I mean. You know what I mean?

TOMMY CROSLIN: I know they are. But I think this time -- this time all this entrapment and stuff, they weren`t after me. They were after Misty and Ronald. I just got caught up in the middle of it because of my damn sister.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

http://edition.cnn.hu/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/15/ng.01.html

It sounds to me like Tommy is trying to convince Timmy that LE has nothing on him (Timmy) so he can come back to Florida. But Timmy is not buying it because he is seeing everybody else connected to the Haleigh case getting locked up, those that are "in the know". So he fears that he will be arrested too. WHy? Is it because he fits in that category too? IMO, that's what Timmy meant by "bad timing". And Timmy feels it's "bad timing" because not only are the others being locked up, he himself have not been cleared as a suspect. He admits that Chelsea has but he has not. So my gut tells me that Chelsea is definitely trying to protect her husband, the father of her children. Tommy tells Timmy "Oh well...you didn't do nothing wrong", it sounds like Tommy is saying that, regardless of LE still considering Timmy suspect, that his part in all this mess is so small that he shouldn't get into trouble for it. But Timmy is still worried. I think Tommy slips up when he talks about LE needing proof, he then reassures Timmy that there will never be any proof. I take that to mean that all evidence connected to what happened to Haleigh has been destroyed completely. And as we stand 18 months later, still with no answers as to what happened to Haleigh, I think Tommy was absolutely right about there not being proof. IMO, Tommy is implying to Timmy that although he played a small part in this, there will never be any proof that anything ever happened, so therefore, Timmy's small part in it will not come to the light. If you think about it, we have Tommy admitting that there will never be any proof, probably because he helped get rid of it. And then we hear other players connected to this case talking about needing PROOF. Annette, Teresa, and Ron have talked about needing proof that something bad as happened to Haleigh. IMO, they come off kinda cocky because they too know that the evidence has been destroyed, so there is no proof. NO Proof NO case. So they continue to pitch the "Haleigh is still alive" BS. Everyone seem too confident, KWIM?

Thank you for the transcript.

What I heard and others listened to it also was:

Timmy: I want to come down but I'm afraid I'll be arrested
Tommy: there is no evidence it is gone.

They could be talking about drugs or whatever.

I can't find that darn tape

KSH, I don't think they are talking about drugs...we see how careless they are with their drugs. IMO, they are talking about Haleigh. We have the Cummings begging for proof and we have Tommy admitting that there is none. IMO, Tommy, Annette, Teresa, and Ron are the ones so confident about there not being any evidence...Timmy is not so sure. So the ones so confident, IMO, knows exactly what happened to Haleigh. JMO of course

Haleigh, SWEETIE WHERE ARE YOU?

 

[suspicious1]

'I just got caught up in the middle of it because of my damn sister'. Well well welll....he wishes. & what did he mean by, 'But I think this time'? What other time is he comparing it to? My interpretation of this, is that he is directing listeners, (LE), towards Misty & Ronald. I think he's casually, throwing them under the bus, while alibing himself & Timmy.

Dodie, I interpreted that to mean all the other times he was arrested he was the target but "this time" Ron and Misty were the targets and he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think he is trying to let the listeners know that Ron and Misty is who LE really wanted. And looking at their enormous bonds, he may be right. JMO of course