Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #14

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Dagestan, Chechnya block Telegram messaging app.

Authorities in Russia’s Dagestan and Chechnya have blocked the Telegram messaging app, Russian state media TASS reported on March 8.

The ban was implemented in response to “security concerns,” as authorities warned that groups could use the app to coordinate unrest.

The Russian government has been escalating attempts to control online communications in recent months, blocking the messaging app Signal, reportedly planning to block WhatsApp, and curbing access to YouTube.
 
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I’d forgotten that March 8th is International Women’s Day. I recall being surprised when I was a new teacher, because the students would bring us flowers and gifts on a day that has no real significance in American culture.

What an extremely atrocious “gift” to hand to a Russian mother who didn’t want her son killed in war, any more than do the Ukrainian mothers.

Perhaps if there were no war, a meat-grinder might actually be a practical gift for those who need one. But in fact it is a war, and a meat-grinder in lieu of a son is not going to assuage any mother.

@LovesPeace2 please double-check me——

Since the attack on Ukraine, I’ve had to train myself to write Kyiv rather than Kiev. My grandfather was born there and once he came to America always called it the Russian way.

I’ve since learned, at the outset of the war, that Ukrainians do not use the Russian terminology. It’s quite important to differentiate themselves from Russia’s influence.

For the same reason, I try to always write “Volodymyr Zelenskyy,” rather than Vladimir Zelensky, because the latter is Russian.

@poppyquiche Thank you for adding your voice! As a quarter Ukrainian and a quarter Belorussian on my maternal grandparents’ side, I feel this deeply as well.

JMO

Happy International Women’s Day to those who celebrate it.

🌸🌸🌼🌼🌷🌷🌺🌻
 
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I am so sorry. This is brutal for those of us who are removed and I cannot imagine what it's like for you.
Thank you. (And thank you everyone. You’re very kind. 🩷)

It’s…well, it’s not a good feeling when you have a moment of “do I WANT to look at these pictures, or is there a chance I am going to see anyone I know in them and therefore this might be a BAD idea” before looking at the news.

Bucha broke me. At the time I couldn’t get confirmation of the safety of one of my friends and even though I knew she’d have had no reason to be over near, say, Bucha, I genuinely had no idea WHAT she’d had to do or what was going on. The idea of seeing her in one of those photos was traumatizing (it was horrific enough to know that it happened to people I don’t personally know.)

They’re such lovely people with absolutely SAVAGELY sharp senses of humor, and they are trying SO HARD to be the light in the darkness right now. But it is so, so scary. I know they’d all choose to be nowhere else right now (and yes they do know exactly what that could carry with it), and I respect and admire the absolute hell out of every last one of them. Has it ever been a horrible, horrible and heartbreaking time, though.
 
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I don't have any personal links with Ukraine, but I live in a very rural part of the Uk which is quiet and peaceful and I think about all those people living under the invasion - and think of all the Mothers and children as well. MOO
 
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Thank you. (And thank you everyone. You’re very kind. 🩷)

It’s…well, it’s not a good feeling when you have a moment of “do I WANT to look at these pictures, or is there a chance I am going to see anyone I know in them and therefore this might be a BAD idea” before looking at the news.

Bucha broke me. At the time I couldn’t get confirmation of the safety of one of my friends and even though I knew she’d have had no reason to be over near, say, Bucha, I genuinely had no idea WHAT she’d had to do or what was going on. The idea of seeing her in one of those photos was traumatizing (it was horrific enough to know that it happened to people I don’t personally know.)

They’re such lovely people with absolutely SAVAGELY sharp senses of humor, and they are trying SO HARD to be the light in the darkness right now. But it is so, so scary. I know they’d all choose to be nowhere else right now (and yes they do know exactly what that could carry with it), and I respect and admire the absolute hell out of every last one of them. Has it ever been a horrible, horrible and heartbreaking time, though.
I hear you. And while I don't know Ukrainians, I have friends in other European countries, and also in Argentina. We are all wonderful humans who are friends - humanity is the same everywhere but some people are unfortunate to live under awful regimes and have leaders who make awful decisions. And some, like Ukrainians, were living peacefully and were invaded. Terrible.

I was once with some Argentinians and one of them (only one) suddenly aggressively said to me "Falklands War". I just said - not me - it's politicians. He calmed down and was ok. JMO
 
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You are also quite right to say they fully deserve every ounce of admiration and respect - and they have it - from most people on here 🙏
 
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The world's largest Ukrainian flag has been unfurled on the White House ellipse by US supporters of Ukraine 😍 There's a video in the link.... Americans speak.

"WASHINGTON (7News) — Ukrainian-Americans and their allies gathered Saturday in front of the White House for the “Don’t Abandon Ukraine” rally.

Officals unfurled the "world’s largest Ukrainian flag" to demonstrate ongoing U.S. support for Ukraine amid concerns over paused aid."
 
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An even better video on this link

"Chanting 'Stand with Ukraine' and 'Russia must pay', a crowd of roughly a thousand unfurled a massive, 172 foot by 110 foot, 330 pound (150 kilogram) flag on The Ellipse, a large field near the White House and the site of President's Trump's January 6th rally."

 
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I’d forgotten that March 8th is International Women’s Day. I recall being surprised when I was a new teacher, because the students would bring us flowers and gifts on a day that has no real significance in American culture.

What an extremely atrocious “gift” to hand to a Russian mother who didn’t want her son killed in war, any more than do the Ukrainian mothers.

Perhaps if there were no war, a meat-grinder might actually be a practical gift for those who need one. But in fact it is a war, and a meat-grinder in lieu of a son is not going to assuage any mother.

@LovesPeace2 please double-check me——

Since the attack on Ukraine, I’ve had to train myself to write Kyiv rather than Kiev. My grandfather was born there and once he came to America always called it the Russian way.

I’ve since learned, at the outset of the war, that Ukrainians do not use the Russian terminology. It’s quite important to differentiate themselves from Russia’s influence.

For the same reason, I try to always write “Volodymyr Zelenskyy,” rather than Vladimir Zelensky, because the latter is Russian.

@poppyquiche Thank you for adding your voice! As a quarter Ukrainian and a quarter Belorussian on my maternal grandparents’ side, I feel this deeply as well.

JMO

Happy International Women’s Day to those who celebrate it.

🌸🌸🌼🌼🌷🌷🌺🌻
Thank you kindness . I've always used kyiv . I'm honestly not a stickler on spelling names tbh no one on my dad's side of the family has their names spelled the same including me my dad and brother lol our last names are either missing a letter or have a extra when my grandparents landed in Saskatchewan the govt sounded out our last name and spelled it how it sounded to them. Lol last 4/5 letters could be chuk chuck orrrr choek . This is a rough war that now is just disgusting a little human kindness goes a long way . Thank goodness most people are compassionate human beings In websleuth . I do have to apologize to a few people for some of my comments but the drama between trump and Ukraini and Canada have really hit me some sort of way. So for those I've offended sorry
 
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Thank you kindness . I've always used kyiv . I'm honestly not a stickler on spelling names tbh no one on my dad's side of the family has their names spelled the same including me my dad and brother lol our last names are either missing a letter or have a extra when my grandparents landed in Saskatchewan the govt sounded out our last name and spelled it how it sounded to them. Lol last 4/5 letters could be chuk chuck orrrr choek . This is a rough war that now is just disgusting a little human kindness goes a long way . Thank goodness most people are compassionate human beings In websleuth . I do have to apologize to a few people for some of my comments but the drama between trump and Ukraini and Canada have really hit me some sort of way. So for those I've offended sorry
I can be the Ukrainian spelling bully if you want. 😂 I’m annoying about it (in a joking way; I’m just being silly here) but it also just bugs me because “Kyiv” is simply much much closer to how it’s actually pronounced in the language of the country itself, because that’s the romanization of Київ.

But hey. I’m also just glad there seems to have MOSTLY been an end to “THE Ukraine”, so. 😩

Все буде Україна, друже. Hang in there. I’m so sorry about…well, all of this. 💙💛
 
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I can be the Ukrainian spelling bully if you want. 😂 I’m annoying about it (in a joking way; I’m just being silly here) but it also just bugs me because “Kyiv” is simply much much closer to how it’s actually pronounced in the language of the country itself, because that’s the romanization of Київ.

But hey. I’m also just glad there seems to have MOSTLY been an end to “THE Ukraine”, so. 😩

Все буде Україна, друже. Hang in there. I’m so sorry about…well, all of this. 💙💛
I think you'll be pleased to know that even UK supermarkets changed the wording to Chicken Kyiv at the start of the Ukraine war :-) MOO
 
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I think you'll be pleased to know that even UK supermarkets changed the wording to Chicken Kyiv at the start of the Ukraine war :-) MOO
Respect!
 
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I grew up hearing our national broadcaster say "the Ukraine".

Then I read an article that said that's what Russia called it and that it was really Ukraine.
And that the Russians were trying to make out it was one of their areas, like a province or something.
Sneaky devils...
So I changed to saying Ukraine and that same day a friend corrected me saying it was "The Ukraine"
I corrected him, but he said he'd check it out and that maybe I was wrong :rolleyes:

That same day the ABC, our national broadcaster changed to Ukraine.
 
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Thank you. (And thank you everyone. You’re very kind. 🩷)

It’s…well, it’s not a good feeling when you have a moment of “do I WANT to look at these pictures, or is there a chance I am going to see anyone I know in them and therefore this might be a BAD idea” before looking at the news.

Bucha broke me. At the time I couldn’t get confirmation of the safety of one of my friends and even though I knew she’d have had no reason to be over near, say, Bucha, I genuinely had no idea WHAT she’d had to do or what was going on. The idea of seeing her in one of those photos was traumatizing (it was horrific enough to know that it happened to people I don’t personally know.)

They’re such lovely people with absolutely SAVAGELY sharp senses of humor, and they are trying SO HARD to be the light in the darkness right now. But it is so, so scary. I know they’d all choose to be nowhere else right now (and yes they do know exactly what that could carry with it), and I respect and admire the absolute hell out of every last one of them. Has it ever been a horrible, horrible and heartbreaking time, though.
About a sense of humor. I loved Zelenskyy's retort to that overbearing White House reporter from Real Amerika's Voice:

"Why don't you wear a suit?" Glenn asked. "You're at the highest level in this country's office, and you refuse to wear a suit.
"Do you own a suit?" he continued. "A lot of Americans have problems with you not respecting the dignity of this office."

"I will wear costume after this war will finish," Zelensky replied. (The word "suit" can be translated into Ukrainian as "kostyum".)
"Maybe something like yours, yes. Maybe something better, I don't know," he said, to laughter in the room. "Maybe something cheaper."
 
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France to provide $211 million in military aid to Ukraine backed by frozen Russian assets.

France will provide Ukraine with 195 million euros ($211 million) in military aid using the interest accrued from frozen Russian assets, French Defense Minister Sebastien Lecornu told La Tribune in an interview published March 8.https://kyivindependent.com/france-to-provide-211-million-in-military-aid-to-ukraine-using-interest-from-frozen-russian-assets/
 
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NEW: The extent of the US suspension of intelligence sharing with Ukraine remains unclear.

Western and Ukrainian officials indicated that the US suspension of intelligence sharing is generating battlefield effects. More European states continue efforts to supplement intelligence sharing with Ukraine following the US suspension.

Russian forces intensified their multi-directional campaign to eliminate the remaining Ukrainian salient in Kursk Oblast on March 7 and 8.Russian forces appear to be destroying bridges in Kursk Oblast and along the international border, likely as part of efforts to prevent Ukrainian forces from withdrawing from Kursk Oblast into Ukraine.

The Russian Ministry of Defense's (MoD) Main Military-Political Directorate Deputy Head and Akhmat Spetsnaz Commander, Major General Apti Alaudinov, announced the intensified Russian effort in Kursk Oblast on March 8.Russian forces conducted a series of missile and drone strikes against Ukrainian rear and near rear areas on the night of March 7 and 8 and during the day on March 8, and Ukrainian forces notably did not shoot down any Russian ballistic missiles.

Kremlin continues to promote the false narrative that European Union (EU) member states and Ukraine seek to protract and escalate the war in Ukraine in order to distract from Russia's own long-term preparations for a war with the West.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated on March 8 that Ukrainian Presidential Administration Chief of Staff Andriy Yermak, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andriy Sybiha, Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov, and Deputy Head of the Ukrainian President's Office Colonel Pavlo Palisa will participate in the US-Ukrainian talks on March 11 in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

2/ Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Toretsk and Pokrovsk, and Russian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast and near Toretsk and Pokrovsk.

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 8, 2025: https://isw.pub/UkrWar030825
 
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