Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #14

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Frontline report: Ukraine recaptures part of strategic Chasiv Yar as new French VEB armor doubles combat power

Ukraine has secured fire superiority in Chasiv Yar, forcing Russian units into retreat and weakening their push toward Kostyantynivka.

First-ever Ukrainian drone reaches Russia’s Chuvashia, hits oil depot 970km from border

A drone struck an oil facility in Cheboksary, marking the first attack of its kind in Chuvashia since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
 
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  • Obama traveled to Ukraine with Sen. Dick Lugar in 2005 just seven months after he became a senator, touring surplus weapons stockpiles
  • Most of the small arms and ammunition were left over when Soviets withdrew from Eastern bloc nations, and later dumped in Ukraine
  • The two senators secured U.S. funding to help destroy the weapons instead of leaving them intact
  • Ukraine exported more than 700,000 small arms in 2004-2007, including 101,000 each to Libya and the UK, and 260,000 to the U.S.
  • But most of the ammunition stockpiles – crucial for keeping a standing army battle-ready – were destroyed
  • Ukraine is in a staring match with Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has designs on recapturing portions of the former Soviet nation

And don’t forget.

 
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In response to Musk’s threats to cut off Starlink in Ukraine, Poland is ready to seek an alternative

Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski responded to a post by SpaceX CEO Elon Musk on X, where the billionaire hinted at the possibility of disconnecting Starlink satellites for Ukraine, emphasizing their critical importance to the Ukrainian military:

"The ethics of threatening the victim of aggression apart, if SpaceX proves to be an unreliable provider we will be forced to look for the other suppliers".

<modsnip: Do not bring Fox News National to Websleuths>
 
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Frontline report: Ukraine recaptures part of strategic Chasiv Yar as new French VEB armor doubles combat power

Ukraine has secured fire superiority in Chasiv Yar, forcing Russian units into retreat and weakening their push toward Kostyantynivka.

First-ever Ukrainian drone reaches Russia’s Chuvashia, hits oil depot 970km from border

A drone struck an oil facility in Cheboksary, marking the first attack of its kind in Chuvashia since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Sounds like they're getting intelligence and satellite from somewhere now maybe? :-) JMO
 
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According to the ex KGB guy in the article linked earlier, he was/is an asset. Which is not the same thing as an agent for Russia. But bad enough JMO

This is my gut feeling, too.

In my opinion, Trump is an asset in the sense that his words and actions, due to his personality flaws, make it easier for Putin to obtain his nefarious goals.

Not in the sense that Trump’s an actual dedicated Russian agent.

I know stories about Trump’s involvement in Russia go back decades, well before he was in politics. I’ve heard every kind of rumor—-I stress rumor as I have only links to rumors, not verifiable—-money changing hands to bribe Russia so he can build there, or that Putin has a sex tape of Trump with a Russian prostitute, and other tenuous insinuations.

What I believe is a potentially accurate concern is Trump hanging out with Putin at the Kremlin, like the buddies he thinks they are, and he mentions or shows classified intel to Putin.

I know Trump doesn’t drink alcohol, but maybe over a cup of tea or can of Diet Coke, he will just blab about some military secrets or something similar that will jeopardize America and the West.

I think he’d be motivated either because he’s bragging, (“hey, look what I’ve got”) or because he genuinely trusts Putin to keep a secret.

Just my opinion and guesswork.
 
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In response to Musk’s threats to cut off Starlink in Ukraine, Poland is ready to seek an alternative

Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski responded to a post by SpaceX CEO Elon Musk on X, where the billionaire hinted at the possibility of disconnecting Starlink satellites for Ukraine, emphasizing their critical importance to the Ukrainian military:

"The ethics of threatening the victim of aggression apart, if SpaceX proves to be an unreliable provider we will be forced to look for the other suppliers".

JUST IN: Trump says “Ukraine may not survive anyway”

During a Fox News interview, the U.S. president was asked: “Are you okay with the possibility that Ukraine might not survive if you withdraw support?”

Trump responded: “Well, it may not survive anyway. But we have certain weaknesses with Russia. And secondly, this war should never have happened, so we’re putting an end to it.”
I am speechless about the crud coming out of his mouth. Really why are they meeting Ukrainians in Saudi . It's a useless meeting
 
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Trump wants Ukraine to fail! And he's doing a good job of trying to achieve it. JMO. He is no humanitarian MOO.
 
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Eughhh I have a cousin who won Ukraine x factor in 2012, she moved to the USA a couple years ago got married there a few months ago , they are trying to figure their future and where they are going to go they don't want to be there now and she married a American . There's so much uncertainty with Ukrainian immigrants about where they would be wanted. Everything is just a mess. Jmoo
 
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I am sure Trump is making remarks like that to lower Ukrainian morale. The Ukrainian troops really need to hear positive things and morale boosting things. JMO
 
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  • Obama traveled to Ukraine with Sen. Dick Lugar in 2005 just seven months after he became a senator, touring surplus weapons stockpiles
  • Most of the small arms and ammunition were left over when Soviets withdrew from Eastern bloc nations, and later dumped in Ukraine
  • The two senators secured U.S. funding to help destroy the weapons instead of leaving them intact
  • Ukraine exported more than 700,000 small arms in 2004-2007, including 101,000 each to Libya and the UK, and 260,000 to the U.S.
  • But most of the ammunition stockpiles – crucial for keeping a standing army battle-ready – were destroyed
  • Ukraine is in a staring match with Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has designs on recapturing portions of the former Soviet nation

Super important to note that article is from 2014, citing something that happened in 2005. The world has changed considerably in 20 years and the blame game isn't going to overshadow what is taking place in real time.

MOO.
 
  • #571
Also from that link quoted above

"Kremlin propagandist on Russian state TV: “We support everything Trump is doing. We love how he is behaving”“These are the traditional values!”
 
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Super important to note that article is from 2014, citing something that happened in 2005. The world has changed considerably in 20 years and the blame game isn't going to overshadow what is taking place in real time.

MOO.
Respectfully, what’s happening today didn’t happen in a vacuum.

ETA - It’s also important to note that this was printed today, March 9th. Some things or worth repeating.
 
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"Russian TV’s talking heads boast of Trump’s lack of peace demands
Presenters have gloated about Putin’s new alignment with the US on Ukraine, with one hoping for an alliance against ‘satanic Europe’"

Link is behind a paywall. Archived link underneath

Presumably Trump is happy with this relationship with Russia and leaving all of Europe vulnerable to Russia. JMO

 
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What nasty people to go after Melania, First Lady of the U.S. But I would expect that from creepy people like this.
It wasn't Melania. It was "Meloni," who is the prime minister of Italy. But agreed - nasty! MOO

 
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It seems both Musk and Vance are having a child with them these days for protection JMO!

"“Today while walking my 3 year old daughter a group of ‘Slava Ukraini’ protesters followed us around and shouted as my daughter grew increasingly anxious and scared,” Vance wrote on X."

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But protesters say Vance’s account is a fabrication, and that they had spontaneously passed by the vice president on their way to a nearby protest.

A nearly three-minute video from the incident appears to show Vance surrounded by Secret Service while protesters ask him about Russia’s war in Ukraine and the withdrawal of U.S. support."

Shameful behavior by protestors toward a three year old child made fearful and anxious. But doesn't surprise me.
 
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Shameful behavior by protestors toward a three year old child made fearful and anxious. But doesn't surprise me.
Except it was video's and apparently an untrue claim JMO
 
  • #577
Respectfully, what’s happening today didn’t happen in a vacuum.

But what about Obama!!!!

IMO, Trump would be fully supporting Ukraine in that case. He likes to be the anti-Obama.
 
  • #578
Also from the Times Link

"Russia has demanded that Ukraine surrender four regions in its east and south, as well as Crimea, before there can be any peace. It also wants Ukraine to become a “neutral” country and prevent it from joining Nato. Putin and other officials in Moscow have questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state."


"Dmitry Medvedev, the former Russian president, said yesterday that Russia’s main war aim remained the “maximum defeat” of Ukraine."


"Putin said on Wednesday that Moscow had provided Russian passports to almost all the residents of the regions in Ukraine under the Kremlin’s control."


"Ukrainians in the occupied territories who refuse to accept Russian passports face restrictions on their movement as well as limited access to healthcare and other public services. They are also at greater risk of arrest by the Russian security services. "
 
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I am speechless about the crud coming out of his mouth. Really why are they meeting Ukrainians in Saudi . It's a useless meeting
No one is forcing them to go, they can choose otherwise. Lots going on with other world leaders if they want to take a chance with that.
 
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