Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #15

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"Well, you don't trust the word of the president of the United States?" Lavrov said when pressed by journalists to confirm if Russian President Vladimir Putin is meeting U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff.
Ummmmm…Nope. We don’t trust Trump’s word at all. Was that a joke?

JMO
 
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Very interesting article by history professor Heather Cox Richardson on the U.S. “plan” for peace between Russia and Ukraine. You know, the one where Russia gets everything it wants. It’s actually not a new plan. It goes back to the 2016 election campaign.


Ravid [Axios] notes that the U.S. drafted the plan after envoy Steve Witkoff met for more than four hours last week with Putin. But the plan has deeper roots.

This U.S.-backed plan echoes almost entirely the plan Russian operatives presented to Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort in exchange for helping Trump win the White House. Russia had invaded Ukraine in 2014 and was looking for a way to grab the land it wanted without continuing to fight.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s 2019 report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election explained that Manafort in summer 2016 “discussed a plan to resolve the ongoing political problems in Ukraine by creating an autonomous republic in its more industrialized eastern region of Donbas, and having [Russian-backed Viktor] Yanukovych, the Ukrainian President ousted in 2014, elected to head that republic.”

The Mueller Report continued: “That plan, Manafort later acknowledged, constituted a ‘backdoor’ means for Russia to control eastern Ukraine.”
 
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"Russia sets conditions.

Moscow wants Ukrainian territory.


  • Dmitry Peskov in an interview with the French magazine 'Le Point' emphasized that the end of the war is possible only after the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from Donbas and Novorossiya.
  • Donbas and Novorossiya were recognized by Russia as its integral parts, which is enshrined in the Russian constitution.
  • Peskov argues that some of these areas are 'still occupied by Ukrainian forces', which is an obstacle to achieving peace.
The four regions mentioned by the Kremlin spokesman are:
Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhia regions.

Why are Donbas and Novorossiya crucial?

Peskov recalled
Donbas and Novorossiya were incorporated into Russia by referendum,
which is written into the constitution of the Russian Federation.

'From our perspective,
this is both a de jure and de facto situation',

the spokesman emphasized."

More in the link


Looking at the map of the areas mentioned, the plan seems to follow the initial problem with the annexation of Crimea, namely, absence of independent energy or fresh water in Crimea.
 
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If Russia ends up getting any part of Ukraine ,any neighboring country like Poland will never be safe no other country will be ever be safe again because Putin will have won and will go after the next parcel of land they want. And if USA thinks they will be safe think again Putin still wants Alaska .Putin and Trump are cut from the same cloth.i blame Trump for Ukrainian blood spilt the last couple of months. Jmo
 
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Son of CIA Deputy Director Joined Russian Army and Was Killed in the War in Ukraine:​


A 21-year-old American, Michael Alexander Gloss, signed a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense and was killed in the war with Ukraine in 2024, IStories has found out. His mother, Julianne Gallina Gloss, is the Deputy Director for Digital Innovation at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

IStories discovered that Gloss had signed a contract with the Russian Armed Forces by analyzing data from the unified medical information and analytical system (EMIAS), which became publicly available as a result of a leak. Employees at the Moscow military contract recruitment center entered Gloss’s name into the database on September 5, 2023. As his place of residence — just like for hundreds of other foreign recruits — they listed the address of the recruitment center in Moscow: 5 Yablochkova Street, Building 1, apartment number 302. The medical examination room at the recruitment center has the same number.

According to an IStories source who was well acquainted with Gloss, the American was sent to assault units in December 2023. At that time, units of the 137th Regiment were operating northwest of Soledar in Donetsk Oblast. Gloss was killed on April 4, 2024 — his family confirmed the information in an obituary. The exact circumstances of his death are unknown. According to the funeral home’s website, he was buried in the U.S. eight months after he was killed. Read the full story of Michael Gloss at the link.
 
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Russian forces launched a drone attack on Pavlohrad, Dnipro Oblast, on the morning of 25 April.

3 people are killed, including 1 child; 10 others are injured. Emergency workers rescued 10 people, including 2 children.
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Final tally: 12 fatalities, 87 injuries in yesterday's deadly Russian strike on Kyiv residential area

Search and rescue operations have ended, and Kyiv has declared a day of mourning.
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Son of senior CIA official died fighting for Russian forces in Ukraine

A young American who called himself an anti-fascist and criticized the US “military-industrial complex” died fighting for Russia in Ukraine

21-year-old Michael Gloss was the son of CIA Deputy Director Juliann Gallina Gloss. The family's obituary omits Russian service, only mentioning "tragic death in Eastern Europe."

The report said Michael signed a contract with the Russian military in September 2023.
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APR 25, 2025
On 24 April in Washington, Ukrainian Finance Minister Serhii Marchenko told Reuters that despite progress, he does not expect the signing of a US President Donald Trump-proposed minerals deal between Ukraine and the United States this week. The two sides are still working through some unresolved issues, not detailed by Marchenko, Ukrainian representatives are working to seal a deal “as fast as we can.

In addition to the minerals pact, Marchenko and US officials have also discussed the issue of frozen Russian assets, which Ukraine wants to be transferred to Ukraine to cover war damages and losses caused by the ongoing war. Marchenko says Bessent has indicated that the resolution of this issue should be part of broader negotiations between the two countries.

The Prime Minister emphasized that Ukraine must determine the terms of any peace agreement with Russia, challenging recent proposals from US President Donald Trump.

“In the end, I’m always mindful of the fact that it is Ukraine that must decide on those issues – it’s not for other people to decide on behalf of Ukraine. It is for Ukraine to decide. And Russia must come to the table for that unconditional ceasefire,” Starmer said.

Starmer contradicted Trump’s statements by asserting that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy was not responsible for the failure to reach a peace agreement.

“No. Russia is the aggressor,” Starmer said when asked if Zelensky was to blame. “Never forget that Zelensky was offered safe passage out of his country in the first week of the conflict.”

Lavrov went on to praise US President Donald Trump, calling him “probably the only leader on Earth who recognized the need to address the root causes” of the war.

Previously, Russian officials and propagandists repeatedly defined the so-called “root causes” – the excuses for Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine – as NATO’s alleged violation of obligations not to expand eastward and Ukraine’s alleged violations of the rights of Russian-speaking minorities in Ukraine. Both claims are false propaganda narratives.

Ukraine’s Commissioner for the Protection of the State Language, Taras Kremin, rejected recent statements by US Special Representative for the Middle East Steve Witkoff suggesting Russia could maintain control over certain Ukrainian regions based on their Russian-speaking status.

“I want to caution that discussions about language, especially by our allies, do not align with our international agreements and the treaties we actually have,” Taras Kremin said during an appearance on Svoboda. Live, Radio Liberty reports.
 
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APR 25, 2025
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The incident occured while US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff arrived in Moscow earlier on 25 April to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin for peace talks.

“According to preliminary information, the explosion killed the Deputy Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Lieutenant General Yaroslav Moskalik,” Russia’s Investigative Committee reported. “Available data indicates the explosion occurred due to the detonation of an improvised explosive device filled with shrapnel.”

Important Stories media outlet reported that the directorate where Moskalik worked serves as the main link in planning operations in Ukraine.


Chairs of the foreign affairs committees of eight European parliaments on April 25 urged U.S. President Donald Trump to end "the policy of appeasement" towards Russia, and called for a "resolute stance" against Moscow, according to a document seen by the Kyiv Independent.

"We strongly warn against yielding to its blackmail and deception," the statement read.

"Negotiating with the war criminal Putin is evidently futile; his main objective is to undermine and humiliate our ally, the United States. We call upon all states to ensure that Vladimir Putin and all those complicit in his crimes are brought to justice."

"We must not repeat the mistakes of Munich in 1938," they said.

A copy of the peace proposal given to the U.S. by Ukrainian and European officials earlier this week includes "robust security guarantees" including from Washington, and no talks on territorial concessions until a "full and unconditional ceasefire in the sky, on land and at sea" has been implemented, Reuters reported on April 25.

The Trump administration has so far refused to offer Kyiv any security guarantees, but the Ukrainian proposal calls for an "Article 5-like agreement" backed by the U.S. while NATO membership for Kyiv remains off the table.

U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff is in Moscow where he met with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on April 25.

Witkoff has visited Russia several times this year and met with Putin on at least three occasions.

The envoy has drawn criticism from both U.S. and Ukrainian officials for promoting Kremlin-aligned positions, including the idea of trading Ukrainian territory for peace.
 
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APR 25, 2025
Ukraine’s Main Intelligence Directorate (HUR) reports the destruction of a Russian Su-30SM fighter jet following what it described as a “successful sabotage operation.”

In a video posted on Telegram, the agency showed the jet burning in the distance, accompanied by the message: “An enemy Su-30SM fighter jet was destroyed in Russia – resistance to putinism is growing.”

According to the intelligence agency, saboteurs successfully infiltrated the site and destroyed the plane. The jet bore the tail number “35” and is estimated to be worth around $50 million.

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte on Thursday ruled out the United States withdrawing from Ukraine-Russia peace discussions, after closed-door meetings with President Donald Trump and his cabinet members at the White House.

“There is something on the table now, I think, where the Ukrainians are really playing ball, and I think the ball is clearly in the Russian court now,” Rutte emphasized, without offering further details.

“This is really a NATO which is stronger, which is fairer, which is also more lethal… We all agree in NATO that Russia is a long-term threat to NATO territory, to the whole of the Euro-Atlantic territory.”

The statement, made in an interview with TIME magazine published on Friday, is a reiteration of Trump’s similar remark on Wednesday on his Truth Social platform, where he questioned Ukraine’s sovereignty over Crimea and blamed Obama and Ukrainians for not winning it back in 2014 when Russia annexed the peninsula.

“Well, Crimea went to the Russians. It was handed to them by Barack Hussein Obama, and not by me. With that being said, will they be able to get it back? They’ve had their Russians,” Trump said when asked by TIME if Moscow should, or could, keep occupied Crimea.

Kyiv Mayor Vitaliy Klitschko has suggested Ukraine might need to give up some territory to secure a “temporary” peace with Russia.

“One of the scenarios is... to give up territory. It’s not fair. But for the peace, temporary peace, maybe it can be a solution, temporary,” Klitschko said in an interview with the BBC published Friday.

He stressed that he had clearly stated in the interview that “the Ukrainian people will never accept the occupation of their country by Russia.”
 
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Negotiating with the war criminal Putin is evidently futile; his main objective is to undermine and humiliate our ally, the United States. We call upon all states to ensure that Vladimir Putin and all those complicit in his crimes are brought to justice."

I agree with this statement.

To Putin, Ukraine is just the appetizer. An amuse-bouche.

For Ukraine to cede territory is not peace, it’s surrender.

But the main course for Putin is conquering more of Europe, and for dessert, have America bow to his wishes.

He learned his KGB lessons very well.

IMO
 
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Please move on over to Thread #16.

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