S.A. Concerned Defense will Sell Pics of Caylee's Remains

[Chilly Willy]

for all of those here that say they don't ever want to see photos of caylee's "body" (only bones really), i think back to ridiculous amout of photoshop work that was done in the crime scene photo's thread in order to point out and make it clearer that caylee's skull was in the photo.

i'm not saying the people in this thread are the same ones that searched so hard in the crime scene photo's thread, but comments like "why would anyone want to see photo's of her body?" seem quite hypocritical to me, especially in a forum like this one.

I agree.

 

[Mom of Five]

I would respectfully disagree with you. Caylee was just another "possession" and nothing more in that family. I am sure they loved her in their own evil way, but they did not exhibit proper diligence for a grandparent who had a mentally deranged daughter.

They KNEW KC was not mentally right for years. They knew she was a pathological liar, that she was a thief, was promiscuous, did not have a job (even GA said that in the FBI interview) They knew Caylee was "at risk" and because of their own self preservation issues, they did nothing to protect her in my opinion. They did not "do the deed", but in reality they set Caylee up to be killed.

Just because they fed her and dressed her well that does not mean she was ever a precious child to them. She was just another secret in that family and another possession to fight over.

Then when they knew KC killed or was the reason Caylee was killed they LIED, hid things, and tried to deceive LE themselves. They did everything to run the investigation off track and to hide all of their family secrets.

I feel their lies and cover up have now sentenced KC to LWOP. If they had not gone along with the lies in the beginning, she might could have plead it as an accident and been out of jail in a few years, but they compounded the lies and now she will never walk out of that jail alive. So in reality they sentenced them both to their fate and Lee will not ever be the same.

ITA, This is precisely the truth. The A's are just like my family only my parents have four children instead of two. Two of us siblings see our sister and our parents for what they are. My other brother doesn't. All decisions made by my parents regarding my sister are all about their own peace and quiet and self preservation. They also hide from their friends and other family members many of the horrific actions of my sister. It's bizarre to witness from the outside, and hard for people on the outside to understand.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

for all of those here that say they don't ever want to see photos of caylee's "body" (only bones really), i think back to ridiculous amout of photoshop work that was done in the crime scene photo's thread in order to point out and make it clearer that caylee's skull was in the photo.

i'm not saying the people in this thread are the same ones that searched so hard in the crime scene photo's thread, but comments like "why would anyone want to see photo's of her body?" seem quite hypocritical to me, especially in a forum like this one.

I get your point loud and clear. The bones don't bother me at all. In my heart and mind Caylee left this earth a looong time ago and is in the arms of pure love and not a worry or care in the world. What gets my goat is the selling or profiting of Caylee's suffering, that just chaps my lily white a$$. I hate it.:furious:

 

[TURBOTHINK]

for all of those here that say they don't ever want to see photos of caylee's "body" (only bones really), i think back to ridiculous amout of photoshop work that was done in the crime scene photo's thread in order to point out and make it clearer that caylee's skull was in the photo.

i'm not saying the people in this thread are the same ones that searched so hard in the crime scene photo's thread, but comments like "why would anyone want to see photo's of her body?" seem quite hypocritical to me, especially in a forum like this one.

I guess it depends on one's perspective. I am not one who would be disturbed by bones. We find them all the time. I have worked on "digs" for Cherokee archeological sites. We find bodies in our searches. I have walked miles to see Dr. Bill Bass speak and see his findings.

It is not the bones - it is the total disregard and disrespect for Caylee.
NO ONE in that entire family has ever put Caylee first. They didn't even try to find her dead or alive. They sat in their house and took care of KC. For them to sell those pictures would not surprise me at all, but I hate the disrespect of that baby.

 

[RR0004]

for all of those here that say they don't ever want to see photos of caylee's "body" (only bones really), i think back to the ridiculous amout of photoshop work that was done in the crime scene photo's thread in order to point out and make it clearer that caylee's skull was in the photo.

i'm not saying the people in this thread are the same ones that searched so hard in the crime scene photo's thread, but comments like "why would anyone want to see photo's of her body?" seem quite hypocritical to me, especially in a forum like this one.

Ok...I can say no to both. Each his own, though. Just can't do it myself.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

I guess it depends on one's perspective. I am not one who would be disturbed by bones. We find them all the time. I have worked on "digs" for Cherokee archeological sites. We find bodies in our searches. I have walked miles to see Dr. Bill Bass speak and see his findings.

It is not the bones - it is the total disregard and disrespect for Caylee.
NO ONE in that entire family has ever put Caylee first. They didn't even try to find her dead or alive. They sat in their house and took care of KC. For them to sell those pictures would not surprise me at all, but I hate the disrespect of that baby.

The disregard. That's it.

 

[suspicious mind]

for all of those here that say they don't ever want to see photos of caylee's "body" (only bones really), i think back to the ridiculous amout of photoshop work that was done in the crime scene photo's thread in order to point out and make it clearer that caylee's skull was in the photo.

i'm not saying the people in this thread are the same ones that searched so hard in the crime scene photo's thread, but comments like "why would anyone want to see photo's of her body?" seem quite hypocritical to me, especially in a forum like this one.

I think wanting to view the crime scene as it was when she was found and just wanting to look at her remains are 2 different things, at least to me. You have to question the motives behind it. I would like to see the photos of the scene where she was found just to see if it collaborates the MR's story, could the bag have easily been spotted, did it look like it had been there a long time, etc. I think people were searching the photos to try and figure out what was actually in them, but not in a sick way. Just wanting to view that little girl's remains for the sake of seeing them is totally different.

 

[TxLady2]

I have never questioned anyone's right to state negative opinions about the Anthonys and have not done so in this thread. In this motion the SA did not, contrary to what people have posted, state that the A's have made any money from selling pictures or that they believe the A's intend to sell pictures of the remains, both of which have been stated as fact. When opinion is stated as fact it soon become concrete in people's minds. In a few days, people will be posting that the SA specifically accused the A's and, regardless of how many links are posted, that will remain the belief. The A's will be torn up one side and down the other for something that never happened or didn't happen as presented. I see it over and over on this forum.

If people chose to believe that the A's have sold photos, that's fine. I don't know whether they have or not. My point is that there is no proof of that in this motion, there is not even proof that photos have been sold, only that sales have been "widely reported." The A's aren't aren't even named. It appears that the SA is concerned about the defense, or people hired by the defense, selling photos. That is certainly not what people are getting from the posts on this thread.

Thank you for this, CW. I was about to ask where this rumor started, but then it hit me. I heard something similar on HLN today, and then NG had the "bombshell" on her show about it.
It's ridiculous to get all worked up about something that probably is just a rumor, or could be a mere warning from the judge... nothing more.

 

[RR0004]

The Star, The Enquirer, The Globe, to start with. NG said tonight that with ANS that Dr. Perper even had the windows blacked out. I was here - not only were the windows blacked, there were TWO armed deputies at the door (with more inside) and you were completely frisked down outside at the door - no cell phones, no cameras, no NOTHING. Dr. Perper is wonderful and he made sure that ANS was very secure.

It was rumored that the tabloids were offering well over 2 million for just one pic of her!!!

So, there ya go about who would want to buy them and if JB is out of money - well like I said, you're talking millions for a pic like that.

...she was a baby for G-d's sake. They want pics, have them lobby for the DP to be brought back. I'd even pay to see the "mother of the year" bite the dust.

 

[cocowiley]

I get your point loud and clear. The bones don't bother me at all. In my heart and mind Caylee left this earth a looong time ago and is in the arms of pure love and not a worry or care in the world. What gets my goat is the selling or profiting of Caylee's suffering, that just chaps my lily white a$$. I hate it.:furious:

all the more reason for SA to just release whatever they have, after all...caylee is no longer here with us, (depending on your belief i guess) they are just images of who she used to be.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

for all of those here that say they don't ever want to see photos of caylee's "body" (only bones really), i think back to the ridiculous amout of photoshop work that was done in the crime scene photo's thread in order to point out and make it clearer that caylee's skull was in the photo.

i'm not saying the people in this thread are the same ones that searched so hard in the crime scene photo's thread, but comments like "why would anyone want to see photo's of her body?" seem quite hypocritical to me, especially in a forum like this one.

I don't quite understand that thread at all, personally. The photos don't contain anything of evidence, imo. What I see is mainly matrixing and how the eye goes towards shadows etc. to make shapes and images appear rather like looking at the clouds.

However, I guess someone should mention that a few of us on this board work on Unidentified remains via photos most times from ME offices which can range from skeletal remains to various stages of decomposition in an effort to find their identities. It isn't something we enjoy, but feel that it is work that must be done in order to return people to their loved ones.

This in no way means any of us would like to see Caylee's remains. She has been identified and is awaiting a nice funeral...someday.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

IMO, the conflict here is that Baez has experts all over the country and he wants to send the pictures to them. The risk that something will be leaked by someone employed by one of these experts is significant.

Baez doesn't want to have the experts all need to travel down to Orlando to view the pictures. I can understand that - you can't really ponder when you have a tight timeline.

But, I don't understand what the court could do to mitigate the risk of multiple parties having unlimited access to the pictures.

So, is the SA's request for a ruling really just a heads up to the Defense Team and/or the A Family that charges could be filed if the pictures are published ? What would those charges be ?

 

[RR0004]

I don't quite understand that thread at all, personally. The photos don't contain anything of evidence, imo. What I see is mainly matrixing and how the eye goes towards shadows etc. to make shapes and images appear rather like looking at the clouds.

However, I guess someone should mention that a few of us on this board work on Unidentified remains via photos most times from ME offices which can range from skeletal remains to various stages of decomposition in an effort to find their identities. It isn't something we enjoy, but feel that it is work that must be done in order to return people to their loved ones.

This in no way means any of us would like to see Caylee's remains. She has been identified and is awaiting a nice funeral...someday.

...and bless you for the work that you do.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

...she was a baby for G-d's sake. They want pics, have them lobby for the DP to be brought back. I'd even pay to see the "mother of the year" bite the dust.

ITA with you!!! It is NOTHING BUT BLOOD MONEY!!! I was just pointing out who would pay. With this case being known worldwide those sleazy, scumy, nasty rag sheets would pay in the millions.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

ITA, This is precisely the truth. The A's are just like my family only my parents have four children instead of two. Two of us siblings see our sister and our parents for what they are. My other brother doesn't. All decisions made by my parents regarding my sister are all about their own peace and quiet and self preservation. They also hide from their friends and other family members many of the horrific actions of my sister. It's bizarre to witness from the outside, and hard for people on the outside to understand.

Sorry you have someone like that, but you evidently are okay with it now.

That was my first clue in this case - The Anthonys had no friends. It was a totally closed family structure. If that had been a normal family we would have seen friends around all the time trying to help the family. They had to rely on people like KFN who were criminals to surround them.

When you have a daughter like that, you can't afford friends if you want your self perceived allusions to survive. Any close friend would have known the truth about the daughter so the facade would not work.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

...and bless you for the work that you do.

:blowkiss:

 

[cocowiley]

I think wanting to view the crime scene as it was when she was found and just wanting to look at her remains are 2 different things, at least to me. You have to question the motives behind it. I would like to see the photos of the scene where she was found just to see if it collaborates the MR's story, could the bag have easily been spotted, did it look like it had been there a long time, etc. I think people were searching the photos to try and figure out what was actually in them, but not in a sick way. Just wanting to view that little girl's remains for the sake of seeing them is totally different.

yes but people were cropping and enlarging and circling parts of the photo that they thought was her skull..they were searching for it...and for what? we know it was caylee, so why the interest in trying to see her skull in those photos other than to say, oh hey, that's her skull.

i don't know, i thought that entire thread (with the exception of the book find) was all about being a lookie-loo.

 

[cocoamom]

It was NBC-and IIRC he got $6,000.00 as some sort of brokers fee or something. It's amazing to me that they managed to find such hinkey people to rep them, "search" for them, or otherwise associate with. TM and MN were smart to get the heck outta there! The whole lot of em stink worse than the car!!:furious:

Here is part of an article from the Orlando Sentinel. I guess I was not correct but SOMEONE sure made some money - gee, wonder who it could be?? KC was in jail and somebody had to physically get the photos and give them to NBC - Maybe it was LP! He gets blamed for everything else it seems! LOL It hasn't been proven, but I am confident that it will come out eventually who profited from the sale of these pics and video.

From the original story by the Orlando Sentinel:

After insisting for months that they haven’t made any money from the disappearance of their grandchild, the Anthonys’ lawyer released documents Wednesday indicating that a family spokesman pocketed $6,500 from NBC without the couple’s knowledge.

Rumors of big-money media deals have circulated ever since 2-year-old Caylee Marie Anthony disappeared and her mother, Casey Anthony, became a national celebrity by falling under suspicion.

NBC’s payment of a “photo licensing fee” in connection with an upcoming Dateline NBC news magazine story with the grandparents proves there is money to be made. ABC’s 20/20 already confirmed it shelled out money to use exclusive photos and home videos of the Anthonys — but who profited in that case remains a mystery.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

CW, I do have the capacity, and even some leanings to agree with you on this.

And this is also my biggest point of contention with debate and discussion about this case.

(In fairness, I'll step right up here and put my heart on my sleeve and admit that I want to smack myself in the head for even saying 'this case' versus 'Justice for Caylee.' So walk into this clearly knowing that I'm logical, but I am more emotionally invested, thus, my responses struggle to balance both.)

Here is my respectful debate rebuttal:

1. It is OK to assume what fits each person's belief when they need to and are comforted by that.
2. It is further accepted and respected to politely request validation and verification links for fact vs. rumour.
3. I get confused when some assumptions are readily accepted without verification & validation, as suits.

(Yes, yes, I recognize opinion from fact.)

I respect all posters - those who strive for facts/links/validation, and those who read all of the above and also rely upon their intuition.

But, admittedly, I cross over into a gray area when I am faced with inconsistency. I don't 'clue in' well at all with, "I have no trouble believing X about the A's," when all other posts and "I have no trouble believing..." (especially in regards to an SA motion,) needs to be validated and verified umpteen times, by sources that obviously aren't mutually agreed upon as accepted citations.

In short, I don't really have a great deal of difficulty stretching my brain out this far on this one either. BUT, I feel a bit crummy because I need to defend every other brain stretch I have with citations we might not agree upon.

I feel as if it is OK and agreeable to have a supposition that is favorable to the A's without a cited source. But, it is not worthy of posting a supposition/thought/opinion otherwise? It's ok to believe in something decent about these people, but should I question them, I'd best also come up with an unquestionable source, which might still be questioned regardless?

:clap::clap::clap:

 

[cocoamom]

I would respectfully disagree with you. Caylee was just another "possession" and nothing more in that family. I am sure they loved her in their own evil way, but they did not exhibit proper diligence for a grandparent who had a mentally deranged daughter.

They KNEW KC was not mentally right for years. They knew she was a pathological liar, that she was a thief, was promiscuous, did not have a job (even GA said that in the FBI interview) They knew Caylee was "at risk" and because of their own self preservation issues, they did nothing to protect her in my opinion. They did not "do the deed", but in reality they set Caylee up to be killed.

Just because they fed her and dressed her well that does not mean she was ever a precious child to them. She was just another secret in that family and another possession to fight over.

Then when they knew KC killed or was the reason Caylee was killed they LIED, hid things, and tried to deceive LE themselves. They did everything to run the investigation off track and to hide all of their family secrets.

I feel their lies and cover up have now sentenced KC to LWOP. If they had not gone along with the lies in the beginning, she might could have plead it as an accident and been out of jail in a few years, but they compounded the lies and now she will never walk out of that jail alive. So in reality they sentenced them both to their fate and Lee will not ever be the same.

TURBO, as always, YOU ROCK!! :clap::clap::clap::clap::woohoo: