Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024 #3

[they'll get you]

It's hard to believe the Apple items aren't locatable.

 

[MrJ]

'Most likely others involved', police say​

Crime Command detective acting superintendent Mark Hatt said police suspected "more parties" were involved.

"We are keeping an open mind, but believe the most likely scenario is that her disappearance involves one or more parties," he said.

"Given the extensive and detailed search that has already been undertaken and the fact no sign of Samantha or her personal belongings has been located, we have ruled out any type of medical incident.

"There is also nothing to indicate that Samantha left the area of her own accord.
"I know that a lot of people, particularly those who live in the local Ballarat community, are extremely concerned about the fact we haven't yet located Samantha or who may be responsible for her disappearance.

"I want to reassure those members of the public that Victoria Police is doing everything we can to find out what has happened and provide some answers to Samantha's family and the broader community."

Samantha Murphy most likely dead, police say, as phone clue leads to new search

Investigators say they believe "more parties" are involved in the Ballarat mother's disappearance and "everyone" in her life is a person of interest as the search focuses on bushland south of Ballarat.

www.abc.net.au

Other than the headline, two points BBM.

 

[jennifernz]

'One or more parties likely involved' in Victorian mum's disappearance

www.9news.com.au

"They continue to ask everyone in the Ballarat East and Mount Helen areas, particularly around the Canadian Forest, to check their CCTV for any possible sightings over the past three weeks."

Does this mean that they think that Samantha could have been alive for this time and held at an address? Or active around the Mt Clear area? Interesting that they want CCTV from the last three weeks from these areas (in addition to the initial plea for CCTV from February 4th).....

 

[drsleuth]

Samantha Murphy most likely dead, police say, as phone clue leads to new search

Investigators say they believe "more parties" are involved in the Ballarat mother's disappearance and "everyone" in her life is a person of interest as the search focuses on bushland south of Ballarat.

www.abc.net.au

"We are keeping an open mind, but believe the most likely scenario is that her disappearance involves one or more parties," he said.

"Given the extensive and detailed search that has already been undertaken and the fact no sign of Samantha or her personal belongings has been located, we have ruled out any type of medical incident.

"There is also nothing to indicate that Samantha left the area of her own accord.

 

[Dotta]

Samantha Murphy most likely dead, police say, as phone clue leads to new search

Investigators say they believe "more parties" are involved in the Ballarat mother's disappearance and "everyone" in her life is a person of interest as the search focuses on bushland south of Ballarat.

www.abc.net.au

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"We are keeping an open mind, but believe the most likely scenario is that her disappearance involves one or more parties," he said.

"Given the extensive and detailed search that has already been undertaken and the fact no sign of Samantha or her personal belongings has been located, we have ruled out any type of medical incident.

"There is also nothing to indicate that Samantha left the area of her own accord.

So far away from home.
This area was never searched.

 

[BreakingNews]

I think in 1hr 30 mins.
In my country it is now 10.30 pm
There are 10 hours ahead in Australia.
But I will wait!!!!!

I'm not sure in which time zone is Victoria hehe
There are 3 time zones in n Australia AFAI remember.

Only NZ is ahead of Australia in time. I'd say you might be 10 hrs behind. We are having breakfast on Friday. Police update due in 2 hours time.

 

[Dotta]

"Cops drop bombshell ​

in search mum Samantha Murphy disappearance.​

The Mount Clear area,
south of the Canadian Forest where Samantha was known to frequent,
was highlighted by intelligence derived from phone data and will form the focus of searches on Friday.

The Missing Persons Squad,
who are in charge of the investigation,
as well as detectives, specialist and local police will take part in the search."

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/police-search-new-area-for-clues-in-samantha-murphy-disappearance/news-story/1732d04e62062b2133033ea34c4b767c

 

[BreakingNews]

Go

So far away from home.
This area was never searched.

Google maps had it as 10 km from CBD. Is this anywhere near the Golf Course?

 

[BreakingNews]

'One or more parties likely involved' in Victorian mum's disappearance

www.9news.com.au

"They continue to ask everyone in the Ballarat East and Mount Helen areas, particularly around the Canadian Forest, to check their CCTV for any possible sightings over the past three weeks."

Does this mean that they think that Samantha could have been alive for this time and held at an address? Or active around the Mt Clear area? Interesting that they want CCTV from the last three weeks from these areas (in addition to the initial plea for CCTV from February 4th).....

Maybe to include the night before. MOO

 

[Cedars]

It's hard to believe the Apple items aren't locatable.

I followed another case that helped me understand how this works-basically your device must have connected via bluetooth with someone else's apple device, that is connected to wifi or cell.

So, as your apple moves around, it briefly connects with the known location of other devices, creating a map of where it went.

However, if there aren't apple devices close by, or your bluetooth is off, it won't map your location.

"When your lost device is offline but close to another device, it's able to connect to that other device over Bluetooth and relay its location....Turning off Bluetooth or power makes your device untrackable, but if it's on, has Bluetooth, and is near another Apple device, it can be tracked"

Find My App: Everything to Know

Apple in iOS 13 and iPadOS merged the Find My Friends and the Find My iPhone apps into one app that's just called "Find My," because...

www.macrumors.com

There is a newer iphone that is supposed to be able to connect with satellites, but reviews are mixed. It requires the user to deliberately try to share their location, pointing at the sky, etc.

In the case I followed, the 'find my apple' trail only showed up in a little town they'd passed through (where there were some people with apple devices). However that did, eventually, lead searchers to go look in a very unlikely, hard to access area, after ruling out the normal places they'd expect to find them and, lo and behold, that's where they were.

JMO

 

[blushcherry]

Go

Google maps had it as 10 km from CBD. Is this anywhere near the Golf Course?

Mount Clear is roughly 1/3 to halfway between Eureka St and the Buninyong golf course, depending where in Mount Clear you're looking.

 

[drsleuth]

Only NZ is ahead of Australia in time. I'd say you might be 10 hrs behind. We are having breakfast on Friday. Police update due in 2 hours time.

It's actually in 45 mins time @ 10am

 

[BreakingNews]

S

Only NZ is ahead of Australia in time. I'd say you might be 10 hrs behind. We are having breakfast on Friday. Police update due in 2 hours time.

Sorry Dotta. Didn't have my glasses on.

 

[Dotta]

Only NZ is ahead of Australia in time. I'd say you might be 10 hrs behind. We are having breakfast on Friday. Police update due in 2 hours time.

It is STILL Thursday 22nd February in my country.
So....
Who is ahead?
Australia!

As I wrote,
10 hours ahead of Europe.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Phone data has prompted the Missing Persons Squad to target the Mount Clear area south of Ballarat in the search for missing woman Samantha Murphy.

New lead in suspicious disappearance of missing mother Samantha Murphy reignites search efforts

Ms Murphy went missing after going for a run nearly three weeks ago.

www.canberratimes.com.au

Mount Clear is adjacent to the Canadian State Forest, an area Murphy was known to frequent on her runs.

Police say the extensive search will focus on an area “highlighted by intelligence derived from phone data”.

Early in the investigation police confirmed Murphy’s phone had also pinged 11km away from her home.

Police share fresh lead in search for missing mother Samantha Murphy

Detectives are moving to a fresh search area after new information emerged.

7news.com.au

 

[SouthAussie]

Here is the police announcement from the Vicpol website


Detectives from the Missing Persons Squad will today lead a targeted search of the Mount Clear area as part of their investigation into the suspicious disappearance of Ballarat East woman Samantha Murphy ............

They will focus on an area highlighted by intelligence derived from phone data .........

“I encourage anyone who does have information that could be relevant to this investigation – whether that’s a person or vehicle seen in the area on that day, something unusual such as a damaged vehicle or property – to please come forward and speak to police or provide the information via Crime Stoppers ........

Search continues for missing woman Samantha Murphy

Detectives from the Missing Persons Squad will today lead a targeted search of the Mount Clear area as part of their…

www.police.vic.gov.au

 

[whitelilac]

It's actually in 45 mins time @ 10am

So 3 pm PST.
Appreciate if someone will supply the link to the PC. TIA.

 

[BreakingNews]

It's actually in 45 mins time @ 10am

Darn, daylight saving time

 

[BreakingNews]

It is STILL Thursday 22nd February in my country.
So....
Who is ahead?
Australia!

As I wrote,
10 hours ahead of Europe.

Yeah, I said sorry in post above. No glasses on. Too much anticipation for today's events.

 

[BoysTown]