Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024 #3

[Awakening]

It took 18 days and a team of 100+ detectives to find Cleo Smith….

I wonder how many detectives have been assigned to Operation Primus in this case??

Abduction of Cleo Smith - Wikipedia

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Maybe that’s why I still have hope? I never expected CS to be found alive 18 days later. I know many of us here on WS were shedding tears of joy.

 

[drsleuth]

I can't even seem to find away to message Vic Police to ask them or if they are aware, it could be a simple error or broken link etc

 

[BreakingNews]

Apparently the news pages on the VicPol website auto remove after 7 days and only long term mispers appear on the missing page. Anyone know if this is fact? (Moo)

I've looked up the missing person page and Sam is not there.
www.police.vic.gov.au

 

[Warshawski]

It took 18 days and a team of 100+ detectives to find Cleo Smith….

I wonder how many detectives have been assigned to Operation Primus in this case??

Abduction of Cleo Smith - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And it’s been almost 10 years of investigations, and still no answers to William Tyrrell’s mysterious disappearance.

 

[Warshawski]

7news ballarat just reported that police are asking for any information no matter how small.
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Ch 7 main news just said that MM was too upset to speak on camera but said they just want Sam home. .. and yes, Police are appealing to the public for any bit of information they may have.

 

[tiff]

That's what is so odd about her being removed from the VicPol website. So the question is why?

Somebody removed the web page by accident and it has to wait til Monday for a full timer to authorise the reloading of it?

 

[otto]

I've looked up the missing person page and Sam is not there.
www.police.vic.gov.au

Just looked. Nothing there for Murphy.
Presumably she is still missing.

Did investigators find a couple of feet in the water, something like that, and they need DNA and time to identify?

 

[Awakening]

Somebody removed the web page by accident and it has to wait til Monday for a full timer to authorise the reloading of it?

I read this on social media, so will have to say IMO, someone contacted the police who said it’s standard practice to remove after a certain period of time if they are no new updates. Although I have not seen this before.

 

[Awakening]

Just looked. Nothing there for Murphy.
Presumably she is still missing.

Did investigators find a couple of feet in the water, something like that, and they need DNA and time to identify?

If they did it would be Melissa’s.

 

[Algorithm]

I still have hope but after 14 days it’s pretty hard to imagine SM is still alive. I doubt whether she ran off. It would have to be a real sicko holding her for her to be alive and I think that’s a long shot. I know this happened to CS however SM is a fit 51yo and would be difficult to contain for this period.

 

[Deleted member 293720]

I noticed that Samantha's husband Mick is wearing, which looks like the same watch as her Apple Watch

You would think he would know where she is, apple watches allow you to share their locations with you, they appear on a map, so you can quickly see where they are.
Surely the police have looked into this

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[pipj]

I noticed that Samantha's husband Mick is wearing, which looks like the same watch as her Apple Watch

You would think he would know where she is, apple watches allow you to share their locations with you, they appear on a map, so you can quickly see where they are.
Surely the police have looked into this

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Yeh, doesn’t Apple have like family plans where the ‘cloud’ is shared and you can ‘see’ where other family members are?

 

[BoysTown]

Yeh, doesn’t Apple have like family plans where the ‘cloud’ is shared and you can ‘see’ where other family members are?

You have to share your location with others. It’s not automatic.

 

[Awakening]

I noticed that Samantha's husband Mick is wearing, which looks like the same watch as her Apple Watch

You would think he would know where she is, apple watches allow you to share their locations with you, they appear on a map, so you can quickly see where they are.
Surely the police have looked into this

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My husband is the same age, we both have Apple Watches and he would have absolutely no clue. He uses it to tell the time and check his heart rate.

 

[ChuckE]

That makes sense. All other news is only 6 days old.

Breaking news

Read the latest news and information from Victoria Police.

www.police.vic.gov.au

SM is long term misper I would have thought 14 days is a long time

 

[DRT]

SM is long term misper I would have thought 14 days is a long time

The most recent case on the Victorian Missing Persons list is not from this decade. The other page is breaking news. It is no longer breaking news after a week. It is why it has expired.

The list of missing persons isn't automatically updated.

Missing persons list

View our list of missing persons in Victoria to see if you recognise a name or face.

www.police.vic.gov.au

 

[ScottToorak]

I am speculating that she has been found. Unsure if alive or deceased. The reason for no disclosure is that a very real threat may exist to her children until the perpetrator is captured. One other theory behind Police removing info from the web may be because it was easily accessible by schoolmates of SM's children and was deemed by police to have served it's initial purpose and was no longer playing a role in the investigation. Another thing is I do not think there is any perceived danger of a killer at large because Federation University has been hosting high school children on school camps the last week and a half and they have done night bush walks supervised of course. No warnings were issued to students or schools attending.

 

[Liadan]

I am speculating that she has been found. Unsure if alive or deceased. The reason for no disclosure is that a very real threat may exist to her children until the perpetrator is captured. One other theory behind Police removing info from the web may be because it was easily accessible by schoolmates of SM's children and was deemed by police to have served it's initial purpose and was no longer playing a role in the investigation. Another thing is I do not think there is any perceived danger of a killer at large because Federation University has been hosting high school children on school camps the last week and a half and they have done night bush walks supervised of course. No warnings were issued to students or schools attending.

Interesting thoughts! Do you not think that straight after her family are told, the community would be advised?

 

[ScottToorak]

Interesting thoughts! Do you not think that straight after her family are told, the community would be advised?

No. Not if they are hot on the trail of the perpetrator.

 

[Naobh]

The most recent case on the Victorian Missing Persons list is not from this decade. The other page is breaking news. It is no longer breaking news after a week. It is why it has expired.

The list of missing persons isn't automatically updated.

Missing persons list

View our list of missing persons in Victoria to see if you recognise a name or face.

www.police.vic.gov.au

There's a national missing persons register - for long term missing, which they define as more than 3 months.

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Who is missing? In Australia, more than 38,000 missing persons reports are received by police each year. While most people are found within a short period of time, there remain approximately 2,600 long term missing persons; those who have been missing for more than three months. Missing persons’...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

There's a missing persons support and awareness group

The Missed Foundation

The Missed Foundation, formerly known as MPAN, raises awareness for missing persons and supports those left behind.

missed.org.au

There doesn't seem to be a cold case/ missing person combined where cases could be related even though we know the outcome for some cases.

The cold cases pages seem to be more ad hoc, differing by state at crimestoppers. South Aus is comprehensive.

Some cases get renewed attention when rewards are offered, but I can't find one place these are listed. Or why it's those cases.

Between one week and 3 months then, in Victoria, they're apparently not listed anywhere official. Unless someone else can work it out?