Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #6

[MBLover]

Personally, I don't feel she went in the location of her cell phone. I think that was used as a "mislead". The one who took her knows the area of her last cell phone pings . The phone could be in a swampy area, a body of water in that area if it was ditched.

Debbie, I'm like you. I do not believe that she is in the vicinity of her cell phone. I know my gut instinct may be wrong, but I feel the "ditching" of the cell phone was just a distraction and to mislead.

 

[SkewedView]

Speaking of RSOs, I have a question - is there any indication that MBPD has done the Cassablanca and 'rounded up the usual suspects' for questioning? In other words, have they taken a close look at the RSOs in their jurisdiction that have the potential to have escalated their behavior? I know that sounds like a common sense move, but I usually only have seen it done when much younger victims were involved due to the time-consuming nature of the task (it is after all a fishing expedition), so unless there is some direct commentary on such an effort, I have to wonder if that is an area that needs exploration...

 

[Debbie Miller]

Speaking of RSOs, I have a question - is there any indication that MBPD has done the Cassablanca and 'rounded up the usual suspects' for questioning? In other words, have they taken a close look at the RSOs in their jurisdiction that have the potential to have escalated their behavior? I know that sounds like a common sense move, but I usually only have seen it done when much younger victims were involved due to the time-consuming nature of the task (it is after all a fishing expedition), so unless there is some direct commentary on such an effort, I have to wonder if that is an area that needs exploration...

I am not sure if they have done this, nothing has been mentioned in articles. This is something that they wouldn't mention publicly.

 

[CanManEh]

Actually, since this is currently a missing person's case, with no direct evidence of foul play (I.E. the kind that a judge will pay attention to), combined with the fact that the primary investigating agency (MBPD) is in another state from where these kids are, the odds of them having a tap on their cells/landlines is about nil - tap warrents are hard enough to come by as it is even in a homocide investigation within the same jurisdiction and with definitive POIs. That said, with no leads having really panned out at all by this point, the odds of your final statement being true are pretty darn good.

See as u may have guessed Im from canada EH LOL..But 2 things one is they dont need a search warrant all they need are the cell phone companies to release the recordings now that prolly means that their not admissable in a court of law but weather its through a judge or not it is still done cops make phone calls to other cops in other places all the time even so like i said its up to the the phone company's .and the 2nd thing is If you live is the grand old USA..hell prolly here in the great white north. would you really be surprised if your phones were tapped didn't GBush admitt to something like that anyways even though he said it was illegal..But i mean i guess he did appologise i think to the public so i guess that would make it ok.. remember people this is all JMHO...IM NOT SURE IF THIS SHORT FORM IS USED BUT IT IS JMHO= JUST,MY,HONEST,OPPINION.

 

[SkewedView]

See as u may have guessed Im from canada EH LOL..But 2 things one is they dont need a search warrant all they need are the cell phone companies to release the recordings now that prolly means that their not admissable in a court of law but weather its through a judge or not it is still done cops make phone calls to other cops in other places all the time even so like i said its up to the the phone company's .and the 2nd thing is If you live is the grand old USA..hell prolly here in the great white north. would you really be surprised if your phones were tapped didn't GBush admitt to something like that anyways even though he said it was illegal..But i mean i guess he did appologise i think to the public so i guess that would make it ok.. remember people this is all JMHO...IM NOT SURE IF THIS SHORT FORM IS USED BUT IT IS JMHO= JUST,MY,HONEST,OPPINION.

Nope, in the US, regular law enforcement has the worst time getting taps or records, especially from cell companies - those companies HAVE to have a warrent to allow it, as they risk being taken down by massive lawsuits and criminal fines otherwise - this is why they fought so hard to get retroactive immunity for the illegal taps the feds ordered under Bush. Basically, the feds under Bush made it HARDER for regular LE to get their jobs done, as now everyone's concerned about covering thier butts with regards to privacy protection issues.

Gettting timely taps, traces and chat logs is currently a huge problem for US law enforcement right now, especially in time sensitive cases such as kidnappings.

Here's a good look at how US wiretapping etc works (it's a bit out of date and incomplete, but gives an OK overveiw):

http://www.answers.com/topic/electronic-surveillance-3

Here's a snip from it of the most pertinant portion (bold by me):

To obtain a court order for surveillance requires evidence of probable cause as well as demonstration that normal investigative techniques cannot yield the same results. Legal permission is normally limited to thirty days and must also record surveillance in such a way that it cannot be altered or edited. Interception has the additional responsibility to minimize data gathering that may not be relevant to investigations.

 

[SkewedView]

I am not sure if they have done this, nothing has been mentioned in articles. This is something that they wouldn't mention publicly.

True, I was just hoping that it might have been aluded to by the typical 'source close to the investigation'...unfortunately I'm thinking that the odds are that it won't happen unless this becomes an official homocide case or if the Feds become more actively involved, or both - and even then they'll inevitably find that X percentage of the RSOs aren't living where LE thinks they are living.

 

[MBLover]

True, I was just hoping that it might have been aluded to by the typical 'source close to the investigation'...unfortunately I'm thinking that the odds are that it won't happen unless this becomes an official homocide case or if the Feds become more actively involved, or both - and even then they'll inevitably find that X percentage of the RSOs aren't living where LE thinks they are living.

That's the thing... There doesn't seem to be any of the typical sources close to the investigation leaking information like is usually done in most of these cases.

Everything has been played fairly close to the vest by LE in this situation - and some of the information that has come out was said to be right...then wrong...then right again...

 

[SkewedView]

That's the thing... There doesn't seem to be any of the typical sources close to the investigation leaking information like is usually done in most of these cases.

Everything has been played fairly close to the vest by LE in this situation - and some of the information that has come out was said to be right...then wrong...then right again...

Yeah, that's one of the things that's so frustrating in this case - it's just impossible to know at this point where pretty much anything stands with regards to the investigation, or often even what the facts of the case really are, which makes any look into it wind up driven by a great deal of speculation.

 

[Seifsister]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78719&highlight=lewiston

I am not saying anything but hint

 

[MBLover]

Yeah, that's one of the things that's so frustrating in this case - it's just impossible to know at this point where pretty much anything stands with regards to the investigation, or often even what the facts of the case really are, which makes any look into it wind up driven by a great deal of speculation.

Really...that's seems to be all there is about this case...speculation. Too many strange/odd events suddenly after BD goes missing...and still too many odd events 5 months later...and still no new news...no extra tidbits thrown out there to keep the public talking and hopefully giving some kind of info back to LE... Which leads me to believe that LE has no real information in regards to this case or that the investigation has been bungled in some way...

 

[SkewedView]

Really...that's seems to be all there is about this case...speculation. Too many strange/odd events suddenly after BD goes missing...and still too many odd events 5 months later...and still no new news...no extra tidbits thrown out there to keep the public talking and hopefully giving some kind of info back to LE... Which leads me to believe that LE has no real information in regards to this case or that the investigation has been bungled in some way...

(Bolding respectfully by me)

I hesitated to say it myself, but that latter possibility has been on my mind lately, or some other reason for there to be a nominal, token effort to be put into this case - without any real info into the investigation, that's just speculation on my part though. I do have to wonder if perhaps the MBPD is in need of more info from the kids in NY, but is having trouble obtaining it due to the combination of jurisdiction complications and the fact that this is still officially 'only' a missing persons case. That would be something that they wouldn't want to get out into the media, even though it isn't something they are 'at fault' for...could explain the tight lips, particularly if they don't want the kids to know they are under suspicion or what ever until they can actually put some heat on them.

 

[MBLover]

(Bolding respectfully by me)

I hesitated to say it myself, but that latter possibility has been on my mind lately, or some other reason for there to be a nominal, token effort to be put into this case - without any real info into the investigation, that's just speculation on my part though. I do have to wonder if perhaps the MBPD is in need of more info from the kids in NY, but is having trouble obtaining it due to the combination of jurisdiction complications and the fact that this is still officially 'only' a missing persons case. That would be something that they wouldn't want to get out into the media, even though it isn't something they are 'at fault' for...could explain the tight lips, particularly if they don't want the kids to know they are under suspicion or what ever until they can actually put some heat on them.

I am hoping that LE is playing this close to the vest with the tight lips and no info and hoping that they have tons of evidence here and there and are just waiting for that one slip or the find of the cell phone and/or other evidence to tie up the case.

And I'm sure with the one set of people leaving as they did, that didn't help. And I believe LE thought the other set of kids had left MB when they actually hadn't - a prime opportunity missed to question these traveling companions face to face instead of by phone.

I would like to know how many, if any, of these parties who interacted with BD, were polygraphed. I know that polygraphs are usually inadmissible in a court of law...however I believe some doubts concerning these folks could be put to rest.

 

[SkewedView]

I am hoping that LE is playing this close to the vest with the tight lips and no info and hoping that they have tons of evidence here and there and are just waiting for that one slip or the find of the cell phone and/or other evidence to tie up the case.

From your lips to God's ear, as they say.

And I'm sure with the one set of people leaving as they did, that didn't help. And I believe LE thought the other set of kids had left MB when they actually hadn't - a prime opportunity missed to question these traveling companions face to face instead of by phone.

I would like to know how many, if any, of these parties who interacted with BD, were polygraphed. I know that polygraphs are usually inadmissible in a court of law...however I believe some doubts concerning these folks could be put to rest.

Given that they weren't able to do face to face interviews, I doubt that any polies were given - Rochester LE isn't going to use their overstretched resources on a missing persons case from another state. From what I can tell, about all MBPD can do with these kids as it stands is to wait for a body to turn up or for enough time to pass for them to declare this a homocide, or for some evidence to turn up that would bring in the feds as active particapants...at that point (let's hope that if it happens it's because of the latter option) they'll be able to get a lot more active particapation from RPD.

It is an unfortunate fact that LE agencies are just far too overstretched to put more than a nominal effort into assisting other jurisdictions with missing persons cases - heck, many have trouble doing much about their own cases.

 

[Debbie Miller]

that something is found. I hope the police do follow all leads and can uncover the truth as to what has happened.

 

[MBLover]

Given that they weren't able to do face to face interviews, I doubt that any polies were given - Rochester LE isn't going to use their overstretched resources on a missing persons case from another state. From what I can tell, about all MBPD can do with these kids as it stands is to wait for a body to turn up or for enough time to pass for them to declare this a homocide, or for some evidence to turn up that would bring in the feds as active particapants...at that point (let's hope that if it happens it's because of the latter option) they'll be able to get a lot more active particapation from RPD.

It is an unfortunate fact that LE agencies are just far too overstretched to put more than a nominal effort into assisting other jurisdictions with missing persons cases - heck, many have trouble doing much about their own cases.

You're definitely right! It's a da** shame that LE doesn't have enough funds/manpower and whatever else they need to effectively do their job to heavily pursue all crimes.

I know that BD was a willing participant to go over state lines and I'm sure no one forced to her drink/party (whatever that may encompass if she did), but when these people took her they became responsible for her.

Just as if a one child hurts another - whether by accident or malicious - that child is held accountable for their actions - either on their own if they are 18+ or by their parents if under 18.

These people were to, in my mind, at least take reasonable care of BD being that she was a minor in the midst of the rest who were over 18. That was not done and someone should be held accountable for not providing a reasonable amount of safety for this child.

When these people realized/knew that BD was missing the first thing they should have done was to call MBPD and the 2nd thing to call DD. I'm sure they may have felt...well, we'll be in trouble... But what do they do...run off and run and hide... Not taking responsibility for their actions or inactions.

It's sad that people would rather turn a blind eye or not get involved - and instead of helping a possible victim and/or LE they keep their mouths shut.

Sorry about the rant!

 

[SkewedView]

I think that I should note from first hand experience as a NYS resident that took off when I was a teen - in NYS, after they turn sixteen, teens can go where they please and parents/LE can't do anything to make them come back (they also are allowed to drop out of school if they so choose), so RPD can't hold the others responsible for her. NYS LE generally doesn't put up too much effort to deal with missing teens above that key age unless there is obvious evidence of foul play etc because of the fact that most of the time, finding the kids is pretty much just to reassure the parents, a waste of precious time and resources in their books. This isn't to apply any negative overtones to the way they handle their jobs, it's just a hard reality of how legislation affects LE once it leaves the books and enters real life.

 

[Debbie Miller]

Here is something with the location of the RSO , I believe this was one of the islands close.

SC woman goes missing and then found deceased.

SC-Katherine Waring, 28, Charleston - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[eeyorelrn]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78719&highlight=lewiston

I am not saying anything but hint

Very intriguing... Wonder if MBPD has heard any of this information? Granted Charlotte is a decent drive away from MB, but it is still a very easy trek in a small period of time.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Here is something with the location of the RSO , I believe this was one of the islands close.

SC woman goes missing and then found deceased.

SC-Katherine Waring, 28, Charleston - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Debbie, I noticed in reading about this case you posted about Kate Waring that her body was discovered by a private investigator. I cannot help but wish a really, really good private investigator was working on BD's case. Not sure if there is still one working for Dawn, but I sure hope they don't give up. Thanks for posting this sad but interesting case.

 

[sawbuck44]

Forgive me if this is already posted. I find it interesting the fact that the psychic saw her get in a car with guys. To me this seems like PB and his friends on their way to the party like they told Brittanee. She would not get into a car with people she didn't know (bolded by me).

http://www.blogcatalog.com/search.f...ee+drexel&id=077f21e6d35355998667910b45930af8

Psychic aids family look for missing Brittanee as she turns 18

For Dawn and Chad Drexel, the loss of their daughter, Brittanee, is both a misery and exhaustion.

Yet, hope keeps the Drexels in high spirits as they celebrate the 18th birthday of Brittanee nearly six months after her disappearance at Myrtle Beach, California last April 25.

Brittanee had been at Myrtle Beach for spring break before she was declared missing.

Dawn plans a balloon launch in the coming days in honor of Brittanee’s birthday, whec.com says.

“We had a lot of plans for her 18th birthday and she’s not here, so it’s very difficult”, Dawn said during the Maury Povich show.

To ease her mind and have some advice, “Dawn spent quite a bit of time going through Myrtle Beach with a psychic”, Lynette Adams reports in whec.com

Brittanee’s father Chad Drexel says the psychic identified a car he believes Brittanee got in. He says the psychic saw a group of young men in that car. “It’s a high human trafficked area and for my daughter to be tortured somewhere. I would rather her have gone in peace”, Chad says.

The Drexels say they will never stop looking for Brittanee and they ask the community to continue to pray for her return. “You don’t know if she’s alive, if she’s okay, if she’s not alive”, they say.

Dawn says she will be headed back to Myrtle Beach for another organized search in about two weeks.

The pain of losing a member of the family must indeed be difficult for the family. With this, the help of the immediate community aside from the police and the media, is a great moral and physical support for a suffering family in search of a missing member of the family. A sympathetic community as well could pitch in evidentiary support on traces of a missing person, and solving a crime.

Too, the help of psychic cannot be discounted as had been proven in a number of cases. Though there are some cases where some psychics were not significantly helpful, we cannot discount credible stories where psychic capacities have helped police in locating missing persons as well as aiding in solving related crimes. It would be better to try all forms of help rather than being skeptical and not contribute anything about it to solve the case.

Link here for original article http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S1174926.shtml?cat=566