Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #7

[RoseC]

For hotel rooms age thats been law in place for years now at beach,,so someone had to be with them at checkin time,
Mlatta, on bd cell only thing ive seen or heard was it was pink,other than that no one knows only way i guess you find that out is if you friends to DD you may can ask her in private email,but all we heard was pink,,

 

[MBLover]

what comment???

I am trying my damnedest to find the make and model of that cell phone. I want to put it in a flyer, and put it all over georgetown county. It would not at all surprise me if someone from that ghetto area near the "pinged" tower, picked it up off the street, and it is now sitting in the bottom of a dresser drawer....

Thoughts anyone?

There was a search for BD back in Dec. (I think that was the right month). Anyway...Just before this search, say a week or two, Monica Caison was being interviewed for a news article.

She said something to the effect - that if someone has found or picked up this cell phone and have it to please turn it in.

This statement appeared in 2 different news articles before the search. I perceived that she felt like it was quite possible that whoever had done whatever to BD had gone back into the area where the phone was discarded and removed it.

Which makes sense to me. The phone "pinging" news didn't break for several days after BD went missing. If the perp though this might lead back to him - I can see him going back into the area and finding the phone and destroying it. I can also see that as a possibility that if BD's body was there as well - moving it away from where the phone was pinging.

I still have to wonder if someone who works in that national forest/preserve area is someone who did this.

WHO - is going to go that deep into scrub with wild boar, snakes and alligators? WHO would have the nerve to do that?

To me - only someone who is more than intimately familiar with that area - someone who grew up hunting there or someone who has worked there for years.

If BD is in that forest - whoever put her there had to know the dangers and the possibility that they could become lost, injured and/or lose their life in going deep into the forest - unless they had some special gear - (snake chaps, gun, gps). Also possibly having an ATV

I just can't see anyone traipsing around in that area without knowing it. And someone who works for the 'park' service or DNR would be a good cover because no one would think anything about them being there if seen.

With all of the extensive searches that have been held - and they have not found one shred of evidence pertaining to BD - either someone has done a very good job at hiding her - and her phone, pocketbook, red flipflops and everything else....or she and her things have been moved and she's not in that area any longer....or else she was never in that area

 

[mlatta]

There was a search for BD back in Dec. (I think that was the right month). Anyway...Just before this search, say a week or two, Monica Caison was being interviewed for a news article.

She said something to the effect - that if someone has found or picked up this cell phone and have it to please turn it in.

This statement appeared in 2 different news articles before the search. I perceived that she felt like it was quite possible that whoever had done whatever to BD had gone back into the area where the phone was discarded and removed it.

Which makes sense to me. The phone "pinging" news didn't break for several days after BD went missing. If the perp though this might lead back to him - I can see him going back into the area and finding the phone and destroying it. I can also see that as a possibility that if BD's body was there as well - moving it away from where the phone was pinging.

I still have to wonder if someone who works in that national forest/preserve area is someone who did this.

WHO - is going to go that deep into scrub with wild boar, snakes and alligators? WHO would have the nerve to do that?

To me - only someone who is more than intimately familiar with that area - someone who grew up hunting there or someone who has worked there for years.

If BD is in that forest - whoever put her there had to know the dangers and the possibility that they could become lost, injured and/or lose their life in going deep into the forest - unless they had some special gear - (snake chaps, gun, gps). Also possibly having an ATV

I just can't see anyone traipsing around in that area without knowing it. And someone who works for the 'park' service or DNR would be a good cover because no one would think anything about them being there if seen.

With all of the extensive searches that have been held - and they have not found one shred of evidence pertaining to BD - either someone has done a very good job at hiding her - and her phone, pocketbook, red flipflops and everything else....or she and her things have been moved and she's not in that area any longer....or else she was never in that area

So many questions and possibilities.. I'm with you MBLover, nobody is going into that area without intimate knowledge of it.. which includes DNR staff, hunter, hikers/campers, and perhaps surveyors. i lean against the atv, because it leaves a lot of tracks... The francis marion forest, which is right next to the county line is like 250,000 acres?!?!? but it seems unlikely that someone would venture too deep, especially transporting a body.

here's something interesting, maybe a little OT but there are an undisclosed number of hidden cameras placed throughout the francis marion nf. I am 99% sure i remember DNR confirming those cameras were theirs.

http://www.postandcourier.com/photos/2010/mar/15/42528/

The phone... I am working on getting in touch with PI that was contracted by amberready. I'm hoping he can give me more details on the phone, and then i can add it to the flyer. I sure hope it is soon, because i want all of this done before 4-25...

I still think that phone ping may be misleading. I'm still thinking someone who lives near that county line, found it in myrtle beach, and took it home.

It would be awfully brazen for this perp to venture back to the dumpsite, to retrieve/destroy the cell phone. but being that this area is so remote, it is still a viable possibility.

food for thought...

 

[waltzingmatilda]

So many questions and possibilities.. I'm with you MBLover, nobody is going into that area without intimate knowledge of it.. which includes DNR staff, hunter, hikers/campers, and perhaps surveyors. i lean against the atv, because it leaves a lot of tracks... The francis marion forest, which is right next to the county line is like 250,000 acres?!?!? but it seems unlikely that someone would venture too deep, especially transporting a body.

here's something interesting, maybe a little OT but there are an undisclosed number of hidden cameras placed throughout the francis marion nf. I am 99% sure i remember DNR confirming those cameras were theirs.

http://www.postandcourier.com/photos/2010/mar/15/42528/

The phone... I am working on getting in touch with PI that was contracted by amberready. I'm hoping he can give me more details on the phone, and then i can add it to the flyer. I sure hope it is soon, because i want all of this done before 4-25...

I still think that phone ping may be misleading. I'm still thinking someone who lives near that county line, found it in myrtle beach, and took it home.

It would be awfully brazen for this perp to venture back to the dumpsite, to retrieve/destroy the cell phone. but being that this area is so remote, it is still a viable possibility.

food for thought...

Matt, I think the cell phone ping is the best clue we have. Another scenario could be that Britt accepted a ride with someone who assaulted her in the auto. During the assault, her phone fell out of her purse unbeknownest to the perp. Perp realizes on his way to points south that Britt's cell is in the floorboard of his car and tosses it.

Perps aren't that smart and leave clues behind which are only a small piece of the puzzle. I go with what fits. And I think someone who has just caused harm to someone would panic and just throw the evidence out the window in this case. Why return to MB if you worry that you are being hunted, I mean he wouldn't know at this point in time, right?

I'm just throwing things out there for consideration. One thing is certain and that is that Britt's phone pinged at that tower in G'town. So her phone was with someone headed south of MB. Whether Britt was also in the car at this point is unknown.

All MOO, points to ponder & speculation on my part.

wm

 

[RoseC]

I agree with last two posters, i feel BD maybe not with phone ,,,if you recall just few days after her missing LE went Georgetown High School and question few guys,so im still going with flow that her cell phone was found and thrown out,i still feel they need search from Mb to NY route for her ,but this just my thoughts,,,seems last few searchs mosty (i might be wrong) was looking for that cell phone,,,another thing (MBLOVER) in most areas law has search is like swampy river land,not really areas that would have anyone checking like SG,DNR, its really just swamp,down here its mosty for hunting,fishing,,now further up to marion national forest thats another area,and yes they have help in there,but they didnt search much in that area,,ive been to poleyard way (river landing) alot people go there put in boats fish,,i can honesty say down here in these swamps,woods not like you think it be in other states,,its just ugly land with alot of bears,gators,wild hogs,etc,and most these ghetto fools drug dealers to scared go in them,so you can bet most drug deals go down on back long dirty dirt roads,or right from there front doors from home,,,,if Mlatta seen this area he can tell you its shabby,,,

 

[RoseC]

MLatta
i thought i seen the pink cell phone in one of the hundreds pic i seen of group,but cant swear now where i seen it or if it was BD or one the others,,lord my niece has pink cell so i think you really cant go by pic to many pink photos out now,most likey if someone found it,they took sim card out maybe sold it,if battery was wet or took out never found much on it,,,most likey if took or found its in bottom of dumpster now crashed,,,,but just my two cents on this

 

[mlatta]

I conversed with Frank DelVecchio, CEO of Amberready today. He said he is going to put me in touch with Marc (don't know last name). Marc is the PI contracted by amberready to work this case.

Please help me determine what information we need from him.

You can post it on this thread, or send me a private message if you'd like.

I believe this guy is based out of Charleston. I'm not sure when I am going to meet with him. I stressed the urgency to Frank DelVecchio.

Thanks!

 

[rd_jfc]

mlatta wrote: I still think that phone ping may be misleading. I'm still thinking someone who lives near that county line, found it in myrtle beach, and took it home.

I would think someone who goes to the trouble of picking up a phone and carrying it around would use it.

rd

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I think so too rd but have a question. If someone found it and replaced the sims card with their own, then would pings from that phone be attributed to the phone itself or to the sims card? (If indeed the phone used as sims card, some don't.)

 

[MBLover]

MBLOVER may still have it?? police reports? if so it gives names and age DOB on each report,

Rose - somehow I missed this post of yours...

Here's the LE reports that I have. I'm wondering if there are others...to me these seem incomplete in some ways...

http://blogs.discovery.com/files/drexelreport1.pdf

http://www.whec.com/whecimages/drexel_report.pdf

Please note these 2 links are 2 different reports

ETA: Looking back thru the LE report it appears that MA was the oldest

Another thing that stands out to me.....Why is PO not listed on this report? He was in the room with AL(as they were an item) and JO and BD

 

[RoseC]

Rose - somehow I missed this post of yours...

Here's the LE reports that I have. I'm wondering if there are others...to me these seem incomplete in some ways...

http://blogs.discovery.com/files/drexelreport1.pdf

http://www.whec.com/whecimages/drexel_report.pdf

Please note these 2 links are 2 different reports

ETA: Looking back thru the LE report it appears that MA was the oldest

Another thing that stands out to me.....Why is PO not listed on this report? He was in the room with AL(as they were an item) and JO and BD

i agree,,thats been my point ,as you see bd already been missing for hours before le knew about it,,they really thought bd was hiding/runaway,,wasnt alot of info first 24hrs out on bd,,,,my question is,Why at 9:15 PM they already knew she was missing? (im talking of group down there) odd they call JG tell him they couldnt find her,,ok who couldnt find her? boys say they didnt no anymore,they left for party,,and Al,Jo b/f says they at police station,,so who was looking for her? to be able tell JG she was missing? this crazy,im stick to my feelings that something went wrong they all covering for whoever is blame!!!! recall PB big dog in NY for partying ,drugs etc so who they covering for?

 

[MBLover]

Okay...my understanding is...and some good soul out there will correct me if I'm wrong (please)

Allegedly BD was texting with her BF, JG. Allegedly at 9:15 BD sent a text to him and he returned one at 9:16...BD never replied to that last text.

Allegedly JG calls one of the girls - JO or AL. They say they haven't seen her. Supposedly one of the girls gets in touch with PB. He tells JO or AL that BD is not with him. JO or AL relays this info back to JG - who by this time still can't get a hold of BD.

I'm guessing panic sets in with JG and he calls and informs DD that BD is in MB and is not answering her phone and that no one she is with knows where she is. This is what seems to get the ball rolling fairly quickly. I am uncertain if JG contacted JH in that time as well or if JH is contacted after JG talks with DD.

Allegedly JG is the one who raises the flag that no one BD is with is searching for her. In one of the early articles - I believe it's JO that's quoted as saying they weren't worried because BD had been staying out (and I'm guessing meaning on her own, away from them).

At some point JH has been contacted and he drives from his base in NC down to MB. I have been told this is about 1 1/2 hr to 2 hr drive. He arrives and reports BD missing sometime around 5 AM.

So something goes wrong really quickly supposedly after BD leaves PB's hotel room - which is shortly after 8:00 PM...but yet...BD is still allegedly texting with JO and with PB, up until 9:15... So how can this be?

IMHO -
1. BD is texting with these people only if she's not in immediate danger or doesn't believe she's in immediate danger. And why would BD think everything is kosher?
A. Because she's with a person or people she knows

2. BD is not doing the texting and within the few minutes she went missing she was in actual danger and she knew it and
A. She was forced to text under duress
B. Someone else was doing the texting to continue to buy time - because
1. This person or people knew that BD was expected to be returning items of clothing
2. Was expected to be back somewhere at a certain time
3. Knew that she had been having text conversations had to answer them using those again as a distraction and/or to buy time.

One reason I don't believe that BD was reported by those in MB as missing was not necessarily the fact that there had been underage drinking and the possible drug use (alluded to in the pic comments) - but because of the simple facts that BD was underage and that she did not have permission to be in MB - on top of all the other stuff going on.

 

[LLLindsayy]

Okay...my understanding is...and some good soul out there will correct me if I'm wrong (please)

Allegedly BD was texting with her BF, JG. Allegedly at 9:15 BD sent a text to him and he returned one at 9:16...BD never replied to that last text.

Allegedly JG calls one of the girls - JO or AL. They say they haven't seen her. Supposedly one of the girls gets in touch with PB. He tells JO or AL that BD is not with him. JO or AL relays this info back to JG - who by this time still can't get a hold of BD.

I'm guessing panic sets in with JG and he calls and informs DD that BD is in MB and is not answering her phone and that no one she is with knows where she is. This is what seems to get the ball rolling fairly quickly. I am uncertain if JG contacted JH in that time as well or if JH is contacted after JG talks with DD.

Allegedly JG is the one who raises the flag that no one BD is with is searching for her. In one of the early articles - I believe it's JO that's quoted as saying they weren't worried because BD had been staying out (and I'm guessing meaning on her own, away from them).

At some point JH has been contacted and he drives from his base in NC down to MB. I have been told this is about 1 1/2 hr to 2 hr drive. He arrives and reports BD missing sometime around 5 AM.

So something goes wrong really quickly supposedly after BD leaves PB's hotel room - which is shortly after 8:00 PM...but yet...BD is still allegedly texting with JO and with PB, up until 9:15... So how can this be?

IMHO -
1. BD is texting with these people only if she's not in immediate danger or doesn't believe she's in immediate danger. And why would BD think everything is kosher?
A. Because she's with a person or people she knows

2. BD is not doing the texting and within the few minutes she went missing she was in actual danger and she knew it and
A. She was forced to text under duress
B. Someone else was doing the texting to continue to buy time - because
1. This person or people knew that BD was expected to be returning items of clothing
2. Was expected to be back somewhere at a certain time
3. Knew that she had been having text conversations had to answer them using those again as a distraction and/or to buy time.

One reason I don't believe that BD was reported by those in MB as missing was not necessarily the fact that there had been underage drinking and the possible drug use (alluded to in the pic comments) - but because of the simple facts that BD was underage and that she did not have permission to be in MB - on top of all the other stuff going on.

I'm probably mistaken here and I'm just basing this off of member, but didn't the texting from B's phone to JG's phone occur during the 8:00 hour as opposed to after 9?

 

[MBLover]

BD & JG were texting throughout the 8:00 hour up until the last texting between them of 9:15/9:16.


http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S912873.shtml?cat=572

Grieco was possibly the last person to communicate with Brittanee. Grieco sent her a text and she never responded. He broke the news to her family that she was in Myrtle Beach and missing.


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v...6858813896#!/group.php?gid=88697134048&ref=ts

This group is for Brittanee Marie Drexel. She is 4"11, age 17,brown hair with blonde highlites, bright blue eyes, small and skinny build.Student at Gates-Chili High School. She drove down to Myrtle Beach with friends w.o her mothers permission and awarness. She went missing on Saturday 4.25.09. Last text that went to her cell phone was from her boyfriend John Grieco, at 9:16PM. She was last reported leaving Blue Water Resort in the evening. Her cell phone is currently off and has been. She left all of her belongings in her hotel room where she was staying at which was Bar Habor. She was last scene leaving the Blue Water Resort in Myrtle Beach. It is out of her character to not call, esp. not to contact her boyfriend. We are all taking this very very seriously.

 

[RoseC]

BD & JG were texting throughout the 8:00 hour up until the last texting between them of 9:15/9:16.


http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S912873.shtml?cat=572

Grieco was possibly the last person to communicate with Brittanee. Grieco sent her a text and she never responded. He broke the news to her family that she was in Myrtle Beach and missing.


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v...6858813896#!/group.php?gid=88697134048&ref=ts

This group is for Brittanee Marie Drexel. She is 4"11, age 17,brown hair with blonde highlites, bright blue eyes, small and skinny build.Student at Gates-Chili High School. She drove down to Myrtle Beach with friends w.o her mothers permission and awarness. She went missing on Saturday 4.25.09. Last text that went to her cell phone was from her boyfriend John Grieco, at 9:16PM. She was last reported leaving Blue Water Resort in the evening. Her cell phone is currently off and has been. She left all of her belongings in her hotel room where she was staying at which was Bar Habor. She was last scene leaving the Blue Water Resort in Myrtle Beach. It is out of her character to not call, esp. not to contact her boyfriend. We are all taking this very very seriously.

you right Mblover, about seem time line ive seen on this end,,,,

 

[MBLover]

IF and that's a big IF (in my book anyway) BD were to willingly get into someone's vehicle, who would that kind of person be? What would make BD think it was okay to catch a ride from this person?

Someone she knew - between the group she came with to the beach to PB's group?
Someone else she knew - from home that was in MB at the same time?
Someone she met while in MB - possibly from Club K or from her hotel?

Why I ask this question - IF PB offered BD a ride and IF BD didn't accept this ride...why would she willingly accept a ride with someone else? Even if it was someone she barely knew - over someone she did know better?

 

[RoseC]

IF and that's a big IF (in my book anyway) BD were to willingly get into someone's vehicle, who would that kind of person be? What would make BD think it was okay to catch a ride from this person?

Someone she knew - between the group she came with to the beach to PB's group?
Someone else she knew - from home that was in MB at the same time?
Someone she met while in MB - possibly from Club K or from her hotel?

Why I ask this question - IF PB offered BD a ride and IF BD didn't accept this ride...why would she willingly accept a ride with someone else? Even if it was someone she barely knew - over someone she did know better?

i see your point, i feel as you,,culd there been someone else from NY,we heard was more there from NY than bd group,and pb group,so could she been with them? if you recall after first few newspapers on black shorts,not one word of that has ever been talk on? from pic i seen from mb trip look to me all 3 girls had on black shorts ,so very odd she left pb room to return shorts,,,,,back to groups in mb, no one from those 2 groups gave le (from reports i seen) of names of other ppl there,i still find it odd,bd get in car within 7 min if she didnt no the person or persons,,

 

[mlatta]

IF and that's a big IF (in my book anyway) BD were to willingly get into someone's vehicle, who would that kind of person be? What would make BD think it was okay to catch a ride from this person?

Someone she knew - between the group she came with to the beach to PB's group?
Someone else she knew - from home that was in MB at the same time?
Someone she met while in MB - possibly from Club K or from her hotel?

Why I ask this question - IF PB offered BD a ride and IF BD didn't accept this ride...why would she willingly accept a ride with someone else? Even if it was someone she barely knew - over someone she did know better?

Someone she met while in MB - possibly from Club K or from her hotel?
^^^My vote...

SC perp vs NY perp ---- The little bit of evidence we have is contradictary, check this out:

1) The Chili gang's behavior following the night of 4-25 is more than enough to raise suspicion. From what I can gather, a "proper" face-to-face interview was never conducted, at least with the males. IIRC articles stated that PB was interviewed by phone with MBPD, after he had retained counsel. He left with 3 other males in the vehicle with him, so they obviously were not questioned in person. (Also note they had 12+ hours in the car to align their stories) I don't know if any of the girls were given face-to-face interviews. Regardless of the girls, the fact that LE lost the opportunity to get proper interviews with PB and the other guys has really made this case difficult. It's not LE's fault, nor do I blame them.

point here -This suspicous behavior tends to indicate some sort of involvment. So here we have suspicion of the members of the "Chili gang"

2) The physical evidence leads me toward a local MB-Georgetown-Charleston-county native. A cell phone ping in georgtown county, and *maybe* a pair of sunglasses near the Santee River *maybe* another undisclosed lead somewhere in the MB-G-GC area...

point here - The (little bit) of physical evidence we have tends to indicate involvment of a local.

:waitasec:

(insert heavy sarcasm here) Of course PB offered her a ride?! What else would he state to the public? naturally all we have is his word on that..

Way back in the thread, the idea came up that Brittanee was not much wanted by the boys (BW) or the girls (BH). Rejection... Brittanee had a completely different set of friends, according to DD, that were her age. I never would imagine her to have much of a problem with rejection, normally, but these other kids were older than her. It's obvious to us that none of these other gave a $#!+ about her, maybe she was picking up that vibe too. IIRC She walked from BH to BW, stayed for ~20 mins? (according to PB had a verbal altercation with JO on her phone) then was walking back to BH. That doesn't sounds like much fun.. If the rejection theory is indeed true, it'd be safe to say "if ever there would be a time when Brittanee would jump in a semi-stanger's vehicle, this would be it..."

One final thought - The "returning of the black shorts" smells of bs... it sounds like a quick and simplistic cover story...

Ok, here is a couple questions for my loyal, informative, friendly WS Family:

1) DD stated that following her disagreement about the MB trip, she went over to SOMEONE's house to blow of some steam.

Is that AL? Is she the one who drove the girls to MB?

2) The timeline is still messing me up... Please verify my facts here: 3 videos - #1 of her entering BW, #2 of her leaving BW a breif time later, #3 another surveillance video of her walking Ocean blvd a couple blocks from BW.

Reports state that she was last seen leaving BW at 8:15PM. (I think this was released prior to the discovery of video #3)

-=-=-HOWEVER=-=-=

it is reported that the cessation of texts between her and JG occured ~9:15

I am so confused now.. WTF happened that during that hour? If this is true, doesn't it greatly discount the fact that she was stranger abducted?

3) Her last text to JG was something along the lines of "going to another hotel to see a friend" Was this the alleged 9:15 text?

It was assumed that she was referring to JO AL at BH ? -BUT- could it be someone else?

Thanks every-1, hope you're weekend is going well!!!!

 

[LLLindsayy]

Haven't they figured out where her 9:15 texts were pinging from? That seems it should be very telling?

If she left the hotel shortly after 8, and her texts from 9:15 were still pinging along Ocean Blvd, that tells me she spent a lot of time there -- more than needed.

I haven't heard this talked about. Only that her phone pinged much further south later than night and possibly the next day.

 

[MBLover]

You know...when this story broke about BD, LE gave a set of times. Then the times were changed of her entering/leaving BWR. Those later times made better sense and made the time line flow a bit better.

But then you've got PB & his lawyer stating the earlier times, and the actual vid's show the earlier times.

There has been lots of confusion regarding when she arrived/left.