GUILTY SC - Five Jones children, ages 1-8, Lexington County, 28 Aug 2014 *Father Arrested*

  • #181
Just going to post these media links so I can go back later and pull some info from them

http://www.thestate.com/2014/09/10/3671959_live-updates-from-lexington-press.html?sp=/99/132/&rh=1

http://ktar.com/23/1765648/Timeline-leading-to-dads-arrest-in-5-kids-deaths

October 2013: Jones' divorce is finalized, and he is given primary custody of the children. He's listed as working as an engineer for Intel, making more than $70,000 a year.
Aug. 28, 2014: Jones picks his children up from school. This is the last day anyone reports seeing him with his children, authorities say.
Aug. 29 and Sept. 2: Three of the children do not report to school.
Sept. 3: Jones' ex-wife says he fails to bring his children to stay with her as scheduled. She reports him and the children missing to the Lexington County Sheriff's Department. Authorities begin investigating.
Sept. 6: Jones is stopped at a drunken driving checkpoint in Mississippi. A deputy spots bleach, blood and children's clothes in his 2006 Cadillac Escalade. Detectives say they begin to suspect foul play.
Sept. 8: South Carolina authorities get arrest warrants charging Jones with unlawful conduct toward a child by a legal custodian. State and federal agents travel from South Carolina to Mississippi to speak with Jones.
Sept. 9: Jones leads authorities to the children's bodies off a rural Alabama road. Investigators recover five bodies, each wrapped in a garbage bag, and South Carolina authorities arrange for their return to the state.
Sept. 10: Authorities in South Carolina say Jones will face five murder charges when he's returned to the state.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/crim...nes-accused-of-murder-of-5-children/15384987/


South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley issued a statement echoing those thoughts.
"There are few moments that truly shock our conscience," Haley said "The last 48 hours in South Carolina have done that, first with the shooting of two of our brave law enforcement officers, and then to see five babies brutally murdered. These events bring a sadness like no other. We grieve together for our lost ones, and we pray together for those touched by these horrific tragedies."
Smith County, MS sheriff's officials say Jones waived his right to an extradition hearing, paving the way for him to be brought back to South Carolina late Wednesday.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2014/09/09/timothy-ray-jones-neighbors-react/15371391/


"He came and got the kids and called (my mom) either that night or the next night and told us that he wanted a new start, a fresh start, he's left everything at the house and we went over there to check it and everything was there," Mariah said.
"We went over there to check and everything was there. He didn't take anything."
Mariah continued describing the state of the small trailer home.
"There was a whole bunch of baby diapers; both of his babies still wore diapers and the amount of wipes and diapers that were left was unbelievable. It looked like he just packed the kids up and left. All the kids stuff and everything was still there."

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2014/09/09/5-children-missing-from-lexington-county/15346355/


Smith County, Mississippi Sheriff Charlie Crumpton says Jones appeared to be under the influence when officers inspected his vehicle, and they also noted an odor of chemicals coming from his Cadillac Escalade. Deputies found what they believe are the chemicals used to make meth, and a synthetic form of marijuana.
Officers also found what appeared to be bleach, muriatic acid, blood, and possible body fluids in the car.
*snipped*
The husband is the children's primary legal guardian. Neighbors told deputies that Jones said he was moving with his children from his home near Lexington to another state.

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http://www.wltx.com/story/news/crim...nes-accused-of-murder-of-5-children/15384987/

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/09/09/3420904_5-kids-missing-from-sc-foul-play.html?rh=1

Marlene Hyder and her husband, Johnny Hyder, said Jones and his wife moved into a house next to them about seven years ago in Batesburg-Leesville, South Carolina, 25 miles west of Columbia. They said Jones told them he worked in computers. Two years ago, the wife moved in with a male neighbor and Tim Jones moved away with the children, the Hyders said.
Johnny Hyder said the children were often dressed in dirty clothes and were seen home at all hours of the day because Tim Jones had said he didn't believe in the public schools. Hyder said Jones was constantly looking for a reason to argue and often threatened to call the police. He said Jones approached him with a gun on his hip one day and was angry about something, but Hyder couldn't remember what it was. When Hyder said he was going to call police, he said Jones told him it was only a BB gun.
"It wasn't a BB gun," Hyder said. "It was a real gun. I know what one looks like, but I didn't want to cause any more trouble."
Marlene Hyder said Jones threatened to kill one of their dogs when it briefly went onto his property.
"He was a nut," she said.
Marlene Hyder said she also remembered a day when one of the Jones' younger children came over to the Hyders' house and tried to drink out of one of their outdoor spigots. He was dirty and disheveled and ran back to his house when she tried to speak to him, she said.

Note: The above would have been while he was still married and living with his wife.

There was a link for the divorce papers, and I forgot to paste that before closing out the window. Worth reading.
 
  • #182

Bless their sweet little hearts. It terrifies me to think of what they went through before their last breath!



The boys look SO much like my 5 year old brother, who died from a kidney disease. They're going to have SO much fun with him in Heaven!

Edited to add: please don't think I'm making light at ALL of what happened to these babies, I'm just saying, in Heaven, they won't be alone ... and they'll be SO happy.
 
  • #183
This has made the news here in Belgium. It is unimaginable horror to murder 5 of your children.
 
  • #184
Not exactly.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-denver-deaths-tied-to-recreational-marijuana-use/
http://time.com/10372/marijuana-deaths-german-study/

It killed the people who ingested it. Just goes to show too much of anything isn't good for you.

One of the two had drug and alcohol issues also ... so

One of the other two, took way more than the recommended dose.

Most stories on deaths from cannabis, come out to be not directly caused by the plant, but other factors also.

One person had a heart issue all ready, etc. etc.

JMO
 
  • #185
I was using hyperbole to make a point and give people a smile in the middle of a very tense thread. Obviously, anything can kill, but at this rate, molasses floods have a higher documented death toll in the US than natural marijuana. :)

Those were interesting articles though, thank you.

I liked your comment on Doritos. :)

On the 'deaths' from cannabis, how many people have died from alcohol, tobacco, etc?

I believe the plant is very safe and VERY helpful, if used correctly.
 
  • #186
When will it end??

I opened up each media article, with the inital intent of pulling some quotes, but I'm drained. Innocent defenseless babies. Why didn't he just kill himself? If he was hallucinating and thought the kids were going to kill him, then why didn't he call police, or family or reach out for help? It's even scarier to think it could happen to anyone. The majority of society have some type of mental illness, IMO. Too many are seeking out drugs. I don't know if the state of the economy, the instability of our country, the lack of medical care available, the stigma of mental illness, the short term stays in psych even after family has fought tooth and risked death of loved one to get them help, combinations of above, I just don't know. but we need to find a solution, and fast! At the rate we're losing our generation of children, we won't have to worry about a war, or anything else, we'll have eliminated the population on our own.

I'm this <,> close to eliminating direct Tv, and the internet, and live in my own bubble. No matter how diligent neighbors, schools, family, etc are in reporting abuse, and see the gut feeling red flags, it's not saving people. Adults, teens, toddlers, babies, and entire families are either missing, or murdered every single day. Why can't our govt see this and HELP ??? We're becoming a 3rd world country!! A country where SLAVERY is back!!! Where the shock of parents killing their kids is fading. It's almost become 'normal' for us to see where a case is heading within the first few media reports! THIS IS WRONG!!!

Sorry for my rant folks....

:hug:
 
  • #187
My week has been incredibly busy and I am just now hearing about this horrific and tragic story, after watching the video of the grandparents speaking, while catching up on news this morning ---- While I haven't yet read all the posts, I agree with those who stated that the GP's are in shock and simply trying to come to terms with the enormity of the situation. I also agree with those who found the repeated claims of "little Tim" being a loving father to be offensive and would like to know if they have/are receiving any legal counsel? Just curious...

* Also, why have the names of the children not been released? TIA. Stand corrected;

Merah, 8, Elias, 7, Nahtahn, 6, Gabriel, 2 and Abigail, 1

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/timothy-ray-jones-dad-five-slain-kids-will-face-murder-n200051
 
  • #188

Ugh .. There again, my ex called the cops on me when I left one weekend. Planned get away with a girl friend of mine (he was okay with) and he always left me alone, so I figured I deserved it. Mind you, before he had ever physically harmed kids but we were having a hard time making our marriage work. (BC he was crazy!) Anyway, he called and demanded I come home right then and I said no. He threatened to call cops .. And he did. In my case, cops saw through his crazy and said you live here too .. If your house/ kids need attention, you are equally responsible! For the record, he trashed house when I left .. Yes, I repeat crazy!

Sorry to post my stuff, but I see many similarities. Crazy is crazy and I now know a control freak/ abuser when I see one! My heart goes out to this mother who lost her world. :( I can't imagine!!
 
  • #189
http://www.thestate.com/2014/09/11/3673918_records-dad-accused-in-killings.html?rh=1

The man accused of killing his five young children and dumping their bodies off a rural Alabama road was being extradited Thursday to South Carolina to face murder charges.

Before 8 a.m. Central time Thursday, Timothy Ray Jones Jr., 32, was loaded into an unmarked SUV and was leaving Mississippi for South Carolina &#8212; a trip of more than 500 miles... Jones wore a striped jail uniform and protective vest as he was escorted into the SUV. Officials also loaded up boxes of evidence for the trip to South Carolina.

"He's in the hands of South Carolina authorities at this time," Smith County Sheriff Charlie Crumpton said. "I feel sorry for what their next phase is."
 
  • #190
http://www.thestate.com/2014/09/11/3674178/sc-dad-accused-of-killing-his.html

Timothy Ray Jones drove in and out of four states on a manic, drug-fueled journey while the bodies of his three sons and two daughters lay decomposing in the back of his SUV, investigators believe.

"We think the bodies were in there for somewhere around seven to nine days," said Sheriff Charlie Crumpton of Smith County, Miss., where Jones was arrested Saturday night at a routine DWI checkpoint. "I guess he realized he made a horrible mistake and didn't know what to do"...

Authorities pieced together Jones' route to Mississippi through debit card purchases, ATM withdrawals and phone records... At night, Crumpton said, Jones slept in the SUV along with his children's bodies.
 
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After reading the article I posted above, I have a feeling that taking care of 5 kids were simply too much for him and he snapped. I also think he was so very angry with his wife and could not release the anger that it just festered in him until he snapped and took it out on the kids ;( :(
 
  • #193
After reading the article I posted above, I have a feeling that taking care of 5 kids were simply too much for him and he snapped. I also think he was so very angry with his wife and could not release the anger that it just festered in him until he snapped and took it out on the kids ;( :(

This is my opinion only but I think he's a control freak drug addict and probably made and sold the stuff. God only knows what those kids lived with...bless their hearts.

Mandi Duncan, a neighbor in Red Bank, where Jones moved with the kids after his divorce, said she often heard him yelling at the older children. She saw many cars visit the house, as late as 2 a.m. but stay only a minute or two, and she said she wondered what was going on.
"He presented himself as a gangster ...," Duncan said. "He often dressed in baggy clothes, and loud rap music often blared from his Cadillac Escalade when it rolled by."

http://www.thestate.com/2014/09/11/3674178/sc-dad-accused-of-killing-his.html
Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2014/09/11/3674178/sc-dad-accused-of-killing-his.html#storylink=cpy
 
  • #194
Another thing that bothers me is that he doesn't look remorseful in any of the pictures...but that's just my opinion.
 
  • #195
http://www.thestate.com/2014/09/11/3674178/sc-dad-accused-of-killing-his.html

Timothy Ray Jones drove in and out of four states on a manic, drug-fueled journey while the bodies of his three sons and two daughters lay decomposing in the back of his SUV, investigators believe.

"We think the bodies were in there for somewhere around seven to nine days," said Sheriff Charlie Crumpton of Smith County, Miss., where Jones was arrested Saturday night at a routine DWI checkpoint. "I guess he realized he made a horrible mistake and didn't know what to do"...

Authorities pieced together Jones' route to Mississippi through debit card purchases, ATM withdrawals and phone records... At night, Crumpton said, Jones slept in the SUV along with his children's bodies.

That is so incredibly disturbing! :(
 
  • #196
Have you seen this? Little Timmy has been having problems for some time now.

breaking
Tim Jones, Jr. went on crime spree in Illinois in 2001
Posted: Sep 11, 2014 10:54 AM CDT
Updated: Sep 11, 2014 11:01 AM CDT


SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) - Prison documents and a family member say a South Carolina man accused of killing his five children and dumping their bodies in Alabama was an ex-convict who went on a crime spree in 2001 in Illinois.

According to Michael Combs, chief of the criminal division of the McHenry County, Illinois, State's Attorney's Office, Timothy Jones was arrested on a cocaine possession charge March 30, 2001, in Carpentersville, Illinois. He was arrested in September for a crime spree that included stealing a car, burglary and passing forged checks.

He was sentenced to concurrent six year terms and had another year tacked on for another stolen car conviction. He was released from an Illinois prison on Jan. 15, 2003.

His father confirmed his son had a criminal record in Illinois and said he made a mistake when he was younger.



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  • #198
Little ones, may you feel the love like never experienced before, and only know happy, fun filled days!!!
 
  • #199
Anyone located any SM for Timothy??
 
  • #200
This is my opinion only but I think he's a control freak drug addict and probably made and sold the stuff. God only knows what those kids lived with...bless their hearts.

Mandi Duncan, a neighbor in Red Bank, where Jones moved with the kids after his divorce, said she often heard him yelling at the older children. She saw many cars visit the house, as late as 2 a.m. but stay only a minute or two, and she said she wondered what was going on.
"He presented himself as a gangster ...," Duncan said. "He often dressed in baggy clothes, and loud rap music often blared from his Cadillac Escalade when it rolled by."

http://www.thestate.com/2014/09/11/3674178/sc-dad-accused-of-killing-his.html
Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2014/09/11/3674178/sc-dad-accused-of-killing-his.html#storylink=cpy


Good Lord, how on earth did he get custody of those kids? Makes me really wonder about the wife.
 

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