SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #13

[Snowyowl]

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/local/aynor/article_e27b8722-81fa-11e3-a440-001a4bcf6878.html

Police records discuss phone calls between Heather Elvis, older man as late as 6 a.m. December 18
Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:15 am

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The phone activity occurred about four hours after Elvis’ last known whereabouts on Dec. 18,

police records and in a telephone interview that he drove Elvis home and dropped her off sometime between 2 and 2:30 a.m.

returned to her River Oaks Drive apartment did say she spoke to Elvis about her date with Shiraldi.

She said that conversation occurred at about 2 a.m. Dec. 18.

Elvis’ roommate, identified in a police report as Brianna Warrelmann, received a phone call from Elvis at about 1:44 a.m. Dec. 18, police records state.

According to the report, the roommate said the victim “seemed like she was crying and upset”

did say she spoke to Elvis about her date with Shiraldi.

She said that conversation occurred at about 2 a.m. Dec. 18.


were there 2 seperate calls? if the 1:44 a.m. about upset and Heather wasn't dropped off between 2 and 2:30 does that mean SS heard that call?
BW call about date occurred at about 2 a.m? is 1:44 a.m. at about 2 a.m. or is it 2 different calls? or is this more sloppy reporting?

 

[Snowyowl]

I am not quoting from any FB sources.
And yes it would depend when it was stated. I mentioned when it was stated in my last post you quoted.

Heather's dad stated her phone and purse were missing. The VI came on sometime after that and said only her keys and phone were missing, she was asked about it and she gave a cryptic answer about "when" it was stated.
Then a later interview came out and Terry said purse and phone were still missing.
The fact that Terry stated this after the VI gave conflicting information is not open to interpretation.

You are free to believe whomever you choose but time wise Terry gave the same information to MSM before and after VI gave us different information here.

thanks for taking the time and effort to clarify.I appreciate it. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to annoy you,I'm new to this board and just trying to work my way thru. I'll try not to be so picky & deatail oriented next time. crawling back into lurking mode...

 

[jillycat]

The timeline still does not line up.

And I just really don't believe LE, TE, or the media for that matter, are having that hard of a time grasping when the last call happened or in what time zone. I don't believe they are referring to one time zone, then another, in the same breath.

What is up with this timeline?

 

[Snowyowl]

The timeline still does not line up.

And I just really don't believe LE, TE, or the media for that matter, are having that hard of a time grasping when the last call happened or in what time zone. I don't believe they are referring to one time zone, then another, in the same breath.

What is up with this timeline?

that's why I agree w/the poster who said there should be reviews & transparency. We all make mistakes and we can all learn from them. Every missing person is important & deserves appropriate effort in order to be found. If you have to take money from publicity and give it to missing persons/search,it's still money well spent.
Having fewer missing people can be a plus for tourists

 

[Snowyowl]

Friday marks one month since Heather Elvis went missing
Posted: Jan 17, 2014 2:56 AM MST Updated: Jan 17, 2014 8:27 PM MST

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24478865/heather-elvis-case-one-month-old



Although volunteers have been filing in to help the search efforts, many have been wondering why there just aren't many public details to go off of. Comparetto says it's all for a good reason.

"There could be some other items that really aren't for public knowledge right now that would hurt the case and slow down the investigation."

 

[Darcyline]

I think LE knows exactly what the timeline is and they have a good idea of what happened so clarifying minor timeline stuff that has been muddled by media is not exactly a priority right now.

*Minor to them-I realize they are not minor to us

 

[StarCynic]

I have been watching alot of Dexter lately though, so my opinions may be skewed.

Ha, I live on that show and my lizard brain has been trying to incorporate examples into this case. You doing the same?

 

[Aeronomy]

Friday marks one month since Heather Elvis went missing
Posted: Jan 17, 2014 2:56 AM MST Updated: Jan 17, 2014 8:27 PM MST

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24478865/heather-elvis-case-one-month-old



Although volunteers have been filing in to help the search efforts, many have been wondering why there just aren't many public details to go off of. Comparetto says it's all for a good reason.

"There could be some other items that really aren't for public knowledge right now that would hurt the case and slow down the investigation."

Comparetto's only speculating. He's not actually part of the case.

 

[Motherof5]

Comparetto's only speculating. He's not actually part of the case.

He's also being logical. LE never shares all with the public.

 

[Foxfire]

He's also being logical. LE never shares all with the public.

I agree Motherof5, LE never shares all info with the public which is understandable. Imo, and from my observations, many LEAs had rather hold back virtually all info and evidence in missing/murdered persons investigations rather than sharing it with its citizens which it is sworn to protect..
I've also observed that these LEAs that practice this silence strategy often have a very high number of unsolved cases..

http://www.scnow.com/news/local/article_ef53cab0-8c5c-11e3-8d73-001a4bcf6878.html

Social media useful tool for Pee Dee law enforcement
<sniped & BBM>
RE: The Florence Police Department does not currently have an official department page on Facebook, but is discussing the idea. Still, Florence Police Major Carlos Raines said, the department uses it as a resource.

Imo, any Law Enforcement Agency that is not taking advantage of new communication technology and social media; FB, Twitter, etc., is squandering their most valuable investigative resource; 'The American Public.' Facebook became available in 09/2006; over 7 years ago.

The FBI has multiple facebook pages and has used this very effective tool/resource for years. Awareness is the key in missing/murdered person's investigations. The antiquated close to the vest silence investigative strategy of the mid 20th century only causes more innocent victims lives lost and mounting cold cases, imo.
The Horry County, SC Police Department subscribes to this antiquated silence strategy and has 8 known unsolved missing/murdered female cases in the past 7 years.

Here we are almost seven weeks since Heather Elvis vanished, yet the HCPD PIO has yet to hold a press conference. This is unacceptable, imo. Media management is critical in missing persons investigations.

'Without Public Safety for our Families, Friends, and Loved Ones, we have nothing.'.

Where Have All The Flowers Gone By The Kingston Trio - YouTube

 

[Motherof5]

I agree Motherof5, LE never shares all info with the public which is understandable. Imo, and from my observations, many LEAs had rather hold back virtually all info and evidence in missing/murdered persons investigations rather than sharing it with its citizens which it is sworn to protect..
I've also observed that these LEAs that practice this silence strategy often have very a very high number of unsolved cases..

http://www.scnow.com/news/local/article_ef53cab0-8c5c-11e3-8d73-001a4bcf6878.html

Social media useful tool for Pee Dee law enforcement
<sniped & BBM>
RE: The Florence Police Department does not currently have an official department page on Facebook, but is discussing the idea. Still, Florence Police Major Carlos Raines said, the department uses it as a resource.

Imo, any Law Enforcement Agency that is not taking advantage of new communication technology and social media; FB, Twitter, etc., is squandering their most valuable investigative resource; 'The American Public.' Facebook became available in 09/2006; over 7 years ago.

The FBI has multiple facebook pages and has used this very effective tool/resource for years. Awareness is the key in missing/murdered person's investigations. The antiquated close to the vest silence investigative strategy of the mid 20th century only causes more innocent victims lives lost and mounting cold cases, imo.
The Horry County, SC Police Department subscribes to this antiquated silence strategy and has 8 known unsolved missing/murdered female cases in the past 7 years.

Here we are almost seven weeks since Heather Elvis vanished, yet the HCPD PIO has yet to hold a press conference. This is unacceptable, imo. Media management is critical in missing persons investigations.

'Without Public Safety for our Families, Friends, and Loved Ones, we have nothing.'.

Where Have All The Flowers Gone By The Kingston Trio - YouTube

Couldn't agree more. I think LE has plenty that they aren't sharing with the public and I don't see that their strategy is helping at all. I honestly see nothing but public confusion.

 

[bestill]

I'm taking a break from this, I'll be lurking/reading and will always say a prayer for Heather to be found and returned to her family. Until there's a break in the case, I fear we're just going to be rehashing the same info and still have no clarity.

This group is great and I know families appreciate all the input, even though it's often hard to read. And I'm sure the perp and their family are reading this, other blogs and social media. Which is fine too, because I have total faith that all of their online and real life activity will be used against them - when the time is right.

Laterzzzz....:seeya:

 

[Motherof5]

sometimes common sense logic doesn't fit into a different mindset. Unless we know facts easy to speculate,but...I believe it's called transferrance.
How do we know she didn't have a gas card/credit card w/TE??After all,she had a car & phone & I've seen "kids" way into 30's still w/credit cards,etc. He did have a business & in other times I've seen all expenses written off business books? We have no way of knowing:twocents:

I see where those things are lacking.

 

[JnRyan]

I'm taking a break from this, I'll be lurking/reading and will always say a prayer for Heather to be found and returned to her family. Until there's a break in the case, I fear we're just going to be rehashing the same info and still have no clarity.

This group is great and I know families appreciate all the input, even though it's often hard to read. And I'm sure the perp and their family are reading this, other blogs and social media. Which is fine too, because I have total faith that all of their online and real life activity will be used against them - when the time is right.

Laterzzzz....:seeya:

I know what you mean. I'm following 3 cases up near me - Alexis Murphy (at least there LE has made an arrest), Jamisha Gilbert (LE had a body early on, but no COD) and Eric G. Smith - and the Sierra Lamar and Jessica Heeringa cases. There is less going on in those threads in total than here though.

 

[Treelights]

thanks for taking the time and effort to clarify.I appreciate it. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to annoy you,I'm new to this board and just trying to work my way thru. I'll try not to be so picky & deatail oriented next time. crawling back into lurking mode...

I appreciate your posts on this thread.
And detail oriented as you are, so am I!
I understand that everybody has different points of view,
and I hope you continue to post.
I agree with you on the purse issue...I feel it has always been
the "elephant" in the room, and if it wasn't, then why the conflicting
reports about it from Terry and the Verified Insider??
To me, there is More to the Story.....
IMOO.

 

[Just K]

JnRyan, I know what you mean. In South Richmond/Chesterfield, VA, in the space of one month, two young women have been found dead and neither case has been spotlighted. (Alyna Davis, 18, found under an overpass & now Kadijah Stewart, 19, found shot dead in a car.) With ALyna's case, I suspect it is either gang or drug trade connected but there is still no reason not to spotlight these cases. At least, the Richmond police have bodies.

Horry County has missing people and a few murdered women and they could benefit from giving many more details. In all of the above cases, it would be worth giving good descriptions of what the victim was wearing, what is missing and descriptions of those items and or solid descriptions of the vehicles. Sadly, most people aren't going to zoom in on a photo to figure out the make, model, year and any damage to a vehicle...like we at @WS do (Specifically, referring to the Amber B case: the only reason I know anything about her vehicle is that I took the time to scour the crime scene pics. AFAIK, no description of AB's Grey Mitsubishi SUV was ever referred to in any "official" news reports.)

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Going over some past articles and I don't remember seeing this... Answers some questions from earlier. This is from her sister, whom I'm respectfully editing with initials.

http://www.wbtw.com/story/24315165/...ses-reward-to-20000-after-daughter-disappears

Myrtle Beach dad increases reward to $20,000 for missing daughter
Posted: Dec 27, 2013 3:02 PM EST
Updated: Dec 27, 2013 9:00 PM EST
By WBTW News Staff

Snipped:
He said his daughter was about to start a new job as a makeup artist for a Myrtle Beach hair salon. A field she had always wanted to work in. She even taught her younger sister M how to do her hair and makeup.

"It's been all sorts of colors just because she used to experiment a lot. So I went through very, very different colors. She loves anything with art. She did photography for a little bit and she designed clothing and then she did cosmetology because she had this dream goal of being the star of her own runway show and filming it and doing all the media coverage for it," said ME.

 

[jillycat]

I think LE knows exactly what the timeline is and they have a good idea of what happened so clarifying minor timeline stuff that has been muddled by media is not exactly a priority right now.

*Minor to them-I realize they are not minor to us

Exactly. That's why I said I don't think anyone is confused here.

But I do think there's a difference between 3:41 and 6:00, just as there's a difference between being in the hospital and being another person altogether.

 

[Just K]

Oddly enough, there are two Heather Elvis (s) in Myrtle Beach and one has many court records.

BTW, anyone know what HRE went to court for since 2010? The only thing I found was one speeding ticket in 2010. Was she a witness in someone else's case or not the defendant?

 

[TTF14]

Off topic, but I wonder why someone who is the subject of intense community scrutiny would make their Facebook page public and even address their "stalkers" in a taunting way. I mean, I guess I can understand the immaturity of minors doing this, but it perplexes me why full grown adults would engage in such behavior.