SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #15

[margarita25]

Hey guys, any new developments? My computer went out, way behind here, but just wanted to ask what the latest is in a nutshell. TIA

 

[ShaShaGa]

I thought the minute I heard CUE was not searching (publicly anyway) that LE knew the reason why no searches were needed.

Our septic tank is about a foot (+/-) under and my husband knows exactly where the lids are.
He installed the tank, and it's very very gross down there. lol.
We had an issue with the line from the house to the tank this past fall and we fixed it ourselves.
I never want to do that again.
and one of the lids is large enough for what we were discussing earlier here.


I hope and pray she is found, and I just feel she needs to so TE can go on to help others. I truly think he will need to do that...he has a way with words and could use it in the future.

I can't understand why there would be no more searches - I mean, she is still missing and the only hope of finding her would be to search. So what could be an explanation for stopping the searches?

 

[Foxfire]

Wow! In what other case has this occurred?

Holly Bobo's case(TN) comes to mind. Holly was abducted on 04/13/2011. The community came out in droves to volunteer search. The volunteer search was called off two weeks later. There has been several SARs, including CUE that have searched specific areas over the past three years without success.
'Justice delayed is justice denied'..

http://www.examiner.com/article/holly-bobo-abduction-police-presence-henderson-county

Holly Bobo Abduction: Search efforts

For over two weeks hundreds of local, out-of-town, and out-of-state search volunteers have come together for one common goal – to find clues into the disappearance of this young nursing student.

Locals are exhausted, yet they still want to search. Volunteer searches were called off earlier in the week due to dangerous weather conditions. Searchers are asking when they’ll resume.

Kristin Helm, spokeswoman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations said in an email Saturday morning, “We have no weekend searches for volunteers scheduled. We’ll let them know if and when we need them to search.”

She added, “We will resume searches if we determine a specific area that needs re-examined.”
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[ShaShaGa]

Hey guys, any new developments? My computer went out, way behind here, but just wanted to ask what the latest is in a nutshell. TIA

I haven't heard of any new developments, unfortunately !:banghead::banghead:

 

[Foxfire]

My guess would remain the same: the last person she had phone contact with !

The last person HE had contact with may not have known about the roomate's phone conversation. If true, the last person she had phone contact with would have concluded that HE's date would be the prime suspect, imo...

 

[Advocate1]

So, basically, they are ruling out random, sex trafficking and serial...leaving what? Someone she knew. And mention the private contact as being between Heather and SM.

LE would not make those statements unless they had a working theory (with evidence to back it up) of what happened to Heather. They just need to find Heather now. There is not much the public can do at this point and I believe thats what causing the emotions to be running wild in this case. Cant blame them as the waiting would be awful. But people need to remember that its not about what you know or what is even true. Its about what you can prove. People arnt helping by leaking info either. It is not helpful to the investigation and only causes more hostility and tension. LE has made it clear they have all HE's private communications that night/morning and are not releasing that info.

 

[ShaShaGa]

The last person HE had contact with may not have known about the roomate's phone conversation. If true, the last person she had phone contact with would have concluded that HE's date would be the prime suspect, imo...

Umm-hmm......

 

[hockeymom4]

I don't understand the CUE part..how could LE have enough evidence to rule out a need for using CUE, and yet not enough to make an arrest or name a POI? Or even say they are 100% sure she did not run away?

I couldn't find the article mentioned by someone else. Maybe it's the one below. When did they say they were 100% sure she didn't run away? I couldn't find that. I just saw that they didn't think so.

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_ada6ad1c-8f77-11e3-8ca7-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm

 

[eileenhawkeye]

There's been discussion about how tourism has affected this case. Someone found out that there is someone who works for the Chamber of Commerce who has connections with the media, or something similar. With the tourism season due to start in a few months, what effect will that have on the case? Do you think there will be a push to get it out of the media for the hordes of tourists who will descend on MB soon? Would they want updates about how the case is still unsolved? And I've heard that MB is covered with fliers of Heather, do you think that stuff will be "mysteriously" taken down? Maybe this is too conspiracy-theorist, but I can't imagine the powers that be want tourists to be constantly reminded that a young woman is missing, and there hasn't been an arrest. Will there be efforts to make sure exposure about Heather's case stays in the local neighborhoods, than near where the tourists would be?

ETA: Basically, when all the business leaders and politicians, etc have meetings about the upcoming season, do you think this case comes up in conversation, and what is said?

 

[Canaille]

I don't understand the CUE part..how could LE have enough evidence to rule out a need for using CUE, and yet not enough to make an arrest or name a POI? Or even say they are 100% sure she did not run away?

De ja vu

Didn't something similar to this happen during the search for Mickey Shunick? That LE had stopped searching... I seem to remember people on here speculating about LE possibly having found evidence of her being deceased... speculation as in LE possibly having found a large amount of blood that would determine death?

 

[ChristYTN]

I can't understand why there would be no more searches - I mean, she is still missing and the only hope of finding her would be to search. So what could be an explanation for stopping the searches?

I'm not sure either really. The first things that come to mind is they know exactly what happened, just waiting on evidence...or someone to slip up.
I don't know, but I'm hoping it all happens soon, very soon. I don't think Mr Elvis can hold out not taking things into his own hands soon.

 

[ShaShaGa]

we still have the phone calls till 6AM..of cause they would have to come from the perps phone or be traced back to a perp via video, etc. .

Via video ???

 

[hockeymom4]

LE would not make those statements unless they had a working theory (with evidence to back it up) of what happened to Heather. They just need to find Heather now. There is not much the public can do at this point and I believe thats what causing the emotions to be running wild in this case. Cant blame them as the waiting would be awful. But people need to remember that its not about what you know or what is even true. Its about what you can prove. People arnt helping by leaking info either. It is not helpful to the investigation and only causes more hostility and tension. LE has made it clear they have all HE's private communications that night/morning and are not releasing that info.

Did they make a recent update? The article from Rhodes states that no cause has been rules out, though some explanations are less likely than others. I am just confused because I have been lurking over the last several days and I thought I read that it was not sex trafficking or that she ran away. Rhodes stated, nothing has been ruled out. Unless there is something new and I can't find it, which is a possibility.

"No cause for Elvis’ disappearance has been totally ruled out, though some explanations are less likely than others. For instance, investigators don’t think human trafficking is tied to Elvis’ disappearance. They also don’t think she ran away."

And yes, she does say this isn't random, that could mean any possibility as well.

This confuses me as well, "For instance, police strongly believe that some time in the early morning hours of Dec. 18, Elvis drove herself to the Peachtree Boat Landing in Socastee."

So they "strongly believe," didn't it say somewhere they were certain or was it assumed that this meant they were certain? I thought I read they were certain. Strongly believe and certain mean two different things. I strongly believed the Broncos were going to win the Super Bowl and they did not.

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_ada6ad1c-8f77-11e3-8ca7-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm

 

[ShaShaGa]

I'm not sure either really. The first things that come to mind is they know exactly what happened, just waiting on evidence...or someone to slip up.
I don't know, but I'm hoping it all happens soon, very soon. I don't think Mr Elvis can hold out not taking things into his own hands soon.

I know, my heart aches for the man and his entire family ! I know myself and the overwhelming love I have for my children and my grandchildren- tho I'm not a murderer or a vicious person , I would have gone ballistic by now !

 

[Advocate1]

I can't understand why there would be no more searches - I mean, she is still missing and the only hope of finding her would be to search. So what could be an explanation for stopping the searches?

LE are searching for her but no longer feel thar public searches would be helpful. Hence the reason they have instead been executing several search warrants. LE needs the publics support at this time and they should not have to be sidetracked by having to deal with interference in their investigation by people who actually want to find Heather!!! Good Lord people have to know that is not helping anything! LE has made it crystal clear that as to what they know and its A LOT. They arnt sitting on their butts scratching their heads either. People need to stand behind them and not in front of them if they truly want justice for HE. Thats my opinion.

 

[lstiff]

I'm actually sitting on the couch beside a man that disappeared for three months. I had heard he was dead. His parents didn't know where he was. He thought his life was in danger and disappeared. A skip tracer found him. His car was at the airport though. Her car wasn't far from the airport. He took a book bag with money and some clothes. Went thousands of miles away. So, it does happen.

Could HE have thought this and skipped town? We all (general public) have tried to explain why/how she would leave on her own without contacting her family. If she thought her life was in danger she might not have thought she had another choice. That is a good perspective!

 

[stillwatersc]

The accused is Sierra Lamar's no body case has finally entered a not guilty plea.

CA - Sierra Lamar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 **arrest** - #20 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Dee10]

I don't understand the CUE part..how could LE have enough evidence to rule out a need for using CUE, and yet not enough to make an arrest or name a POI? Or even say they are 100% sure she did not run away?

I was pondering that as well. It is my limited understanding it takes awhile to get the cell phone pings & triangulation (if available), so I wonder if this came back after the original CUE searches and maybe the pings point to near water, maybe in a different area? Or perhaps a vehicle moving outside the MB area before the phone was shut off? Could they feel someone will crack or make a deal and don't want to spend the resources?

It does sound to me they are pretty confident they will solve this case and again the Chief didn't try in anyway to take the the Moorers out of the equation.

 

[hockeymom4]

Could HE have thought this and skipped town? We all (general public) have tried to explain why/how she would leave on her own without contacting her family. If she thought her life was in danger she might not have thought she had another choice. That is a good perspective!

Many of us tossed this thought around here. It still is a thought of mine and I know many others, that she could have left. I knew LE has not ruled it out. They may not think she did walk away, but they also have not ruled it out. If they were certain that a crime was committed then they were say, this was not a walk away, IMO. As I posses a few posts up, LE has not ruled out one possibility as to what happen to her, so that is why I am open minding and sleuth all possibilities, until they say otherwise.

 

[ShaShaGa]

There's been discussion about how tourism has affected this case. Someone found out that there is someone who works for the Chamber of Commerce who has connections with the media, or something similar. With the tourism season due to start in a few months, what effect will that have on the case? Do you think there will be a push to get it out of the media for the hordes of tourists who will descend on MB soon? Would they want updates about how the case is still unsolved? And I've heard that MB is covered with fliers of Heather, do you think that stuff will be "mysteriously" taken down? Maybe this is too conspiracy-theorist, but I can't imagine the powers that be want tourists to be constantly reminded that a young woman is missing, and there hasn't been an arrest. Will there be efforts to make sure exposure about Heather's case stays in the local neighborhoods, than near where the tourists would be?

ETA: Basically, when all the business leaders and politicians, etc have meetings about the upcoming season, do you think this case comes up in conversation, and what is said?

IMO, yes, I believe they try to sweep things of this nature under the rug- $$$$ talks and it's very sad when the importance of a person's life if diminished for such purpose ! IMO, this is NOT a random/unknown perp as some of the previous missing cases( an astronomical amount IMO that have gone unsolved)however,I don't believe that matters to the $$$$ makers- it seems to be a very unsafe place with way more crime than I would want to be exposed to-I have been there but many years ago- going to a place that has this much unsolved crime of males and females just isn't my idea of a vacation resort !!! If it were my child, I would buy every billboard in the area til my money ran out! I would NEVER STOP. !!!!!'JMO