SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #15

[ShaShaGa]

I wonder if the Dec. reference to pings was a media assumption.
I tend to go with LE on the phone records, but TE does not, for whatever reason.

I sure hope the trunk of her car was checked...

I have wondered the same thing about the trunk! One would think it is common sense to check it but some of this case has been handled in so many backwards ways til I don't know what to think !

 

[StarryNight]

Technically, if they went to SM's house and he appeared at the door and told them to go eff themselves, showing that on the show would constitute "hearing from the man many think etc."

Good point. Something as small as "go #$@% yourself" or "no comment" does technically constitute as "hearing from the man," even if doesn't really offer us any new details.

 

[cluciano63]

If I not carry my purse, I would take my phone, keys and license before using my car and put them on the seat, just in case. When I just go to a store or to pick something up, I sometimes just take my license and debit card, as my purse is big and heavy. I think a 20-year driving in the middle of the night would want her license handy. JMO

 

[Foxfire]

A little OT, but if you have been following the sisters Sheila and Katherine Lyon that vanished almost 4 decades ago:

http://www.fbi.gov/baltimore/press-...napping-of-lyon-sisters-others-victims-sought

Person of Interest Named in Kidnapping of Lyon Sisters; Others Victims Sought
FBI Baltimore
February 11, 2014

Public Affairs Specialist Amy Thoreson
(410) 277-6689
The Montgomery County Police Department Cold Case Squad and FBI agents in the Baltimore Division have named a person of interest in the disappearance of sisters Sheila and Katherine Lyon from a popular suburban Washington, D.C. shopping center in 1975. Investigators say Lloyd Lee Welch, (date of birth December 30, 1956), aka Michael Welch, pictured below, was noticed paying attention to the sisters the afternoon they disappeared.

<sniped from the timeline of locations where LL Welch was over the years>
January 13, 1988 Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
December 20, 1988 Horry County, South Carolina
March 17, 1989 Horry County, South Carolina
September 1992 Lockhart, South Carolina
November 16, 1992 Clover, South Carolina
May 19, 1993 Union County, South Carolina
May 31, 1994 Union County, South Carolina

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234570&page=6&highlight=Sheila+Katherine+Lyon

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community > Missing!! > Missing but not forgotten Discussion > Sheila and Katherine Lyon
Possible Break in the Case

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-37519.html
Websleuths - Sheila Mary Lyon (12) & Katherine Mary Lyon (10) - Wheaton MD, 1975

Details of Disappearance: Sheila and Katherine were sisters. On March 25, 1975, they departed from her family's residence on Plyers Mill Road in Kensington, Maryland and walked to the Wheaton Plaza Shopping Center in Wheaton, Maryland. It was the first day of Easter vacation from school and Katherine and Sheila wanted to see the Easter exhibits at the mall, as well as have a pizza lunch at The Orange Bowl Restaurant

 

[lstiff]

Now that is a good point !!!

The bolded statement really stood out to me, too...

I wonder who that person is?

But... I imagine it is a tease...on the part of the network...

JMO

I think that the person may be the date. JMO of course but most people that aren't on the FHEFB or us here at WS hear/read that HE is missing after her 1st date. That is immediately what I thought when I read it. I could be wrong but it's def a ratings ploy, no way SM is going to be on with them IMO.

I didn't even think about the DL being in the seat. I remember hearing that someone (fake cop) in MB was pulling over girls and trying to assault them etc. I wonder if she could have been pulled over. I have no idea why the perp would grab her phone and purse though. Doesn't make much sense but then again what does in this case.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

Although the teaser DOES say that we'll hear from many of those involved in the case who've never spoken out before. Trying to think of who we've heard from already....

TE
ME
DE
BB

Who does that leave? SM, TM, BW, SS, possibly violent ex, brother CE?

There are definitely other "players" involved IMO. I'm sure in your O too.

I have a few <Mod Snip> in mind that I would love to hear from that haven't been discussed on WS or in MSM.

Getting the opcorn: ready for 6!

 

[carbuff]

Actually even if Ms.OMM 's DNA was in the car it could be explain off through transferring from her husband .. The car is tainted to a point BUT if unknown DNA is present and is traced back to a "interested" third party that would at least point LE in a direction that maybe wasn't considered,imo.

Realistically, though, if there were any indication whatsoever that the car was involved in any kind of crime -- anything from somebody else's clothing to a used condom to only one shoe -- or if there were scuff marks that looked like a fight, or tracks leading to the water, wouldn't they have called it a crime rather than a missing person case?

Which sounds to me like it means that whatever happened to her, it happened somewhere else after she left the car.

 

[nursebeeme]

Hoping a link will be posted...I have to have oral surgery this afternoon...

feel better soon!!!!!!! that is the worst ever! (oral surgery!) Get well soon (can you take a kitty with you?)

 

[carbuff]

Hoping a link will be posted...I have to have oral surgery this afternoon...

Aw hugs...hope they give you plenty of good drugs to keep the pain down.

 

[cluciano63]

feel better soon!!!!!!! that is the worst ever! (oral surgery!) Get well soon (can you take a kitty with you?)

My kitty is nit a calming influence lol
My husband has to miss his sleep as he works night, so he is very grumpy. I have about an hour be before we leave and am falling under spell of the strong relaxers took one so far with one more to go and already am close to completlet out of it...had a horrible, heart stopping time of in Dec for just one tooth so he insisited that i am almost unconcious this time...sorry for typos...very scared but feeling somewhat 'eh who cares" which i hope lasts well into the first yank... All i am focusing is on three hrs from now when i shld by home gain and in my comfy flannels

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Some people have said that if LE thinks the Moorers are innocent, then they would clear them so the lynch mob would back off. However, what if LE currently has another suspect, someone who the public is not aware of, and they are letting everyone think they are focused on the Moorers, so their suspect doesn't get suspicious? I am not saying it would be morally right, but do you think LE would do something like that? It's not like they have been saying that the Moorers are suspect/POI's; they just haven't said that they aren't. So I don't think it would be illegal or grounds for a lawsuit (against LE)...

 

[NewYork625]

Interesting view of PTL. Makes me rethink how or why the car was placed there! I had imagined from previous views that the area was larger, was much more isolated, the inlet was narrower, and the water was more shallow. Do I have the correct address? https://maps.google.com/maps?q=6699+Peachtree+Rd,+Myrtle+Beach,+SC+29588-9327&hl=en&ll=33.694128,-79.047395&spn=0.002597,0.003484&sll=40.07304,-74.724323&sspn=6.917648,14.27124&t=h&hnear=6699+Peachtree+Rd,+Myrtle+Beach,+South+Carolina+29588&z=19

 

[cluciano63]

If LE cleared the M's are they morally obligated to say so, based on any threats or other actions against them them by not being cleared

Sorry I am loopy, already took one halcion...one more to go,soon

Hoping to have a detailed report of what was said, when i am home, in about 2.5 hyrs, maybe 5:30 ET ...thanks

 

[nursebeeme]

good luck clu! You will do just fine! Make sure you stock up on some milkshakes and soup. I will hold you in my thoughts, friend! ((((((())))))

 

[ShaShaGa]

If the interview isn't with SM (and you would think they would mention him by name if it was), then it sounds like it's with someone who people believe knows what happens to Heather, not that he's guilty, but that he has a theory about it. If it is, I have no idea why they are making it into some big deal. Some private citizen thinks he knows what happened to Heather---he isn't part of LE---he just has a theory, let's give him some airtime!

They way I understand it is they will have GS on there who has been a huge part in trying to find Heather .

 

[cujenn81]

Hey y'all ... I was a bit under the weather over the weekend and reading the forum has been challenging with my fatigued brain. I hope I didn't miss anything important! I have to work until 7 tonight so I'm gonna miss the news at 6 (at least until I get home) so I trusting my fellow sleuthers to keep me updated on here until then!


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[Tuckersmom]

I had typed in my theory and when I came to the end, my cat jumped on the laptop and deleted...so let me begin again...

I believe that HE drove to PTL to meet someone that was driving to meet her. She got out of her car with her keys, phone etc, locked the door and jumped in this person's car. It could have been to talk or head somewhere. Once she was in that car, she was retrained in some way to be taken to a new location to be killed. That would ensure cadaver dogs would not hit on the car and it is was OM's car, her DNA would most likely already been in it from previous months.

Could it be that TE is fixated on 3:41 because this was the last time anyone heard her voice and the texts/PMS that were sent after that time was in such a language that makes him believe that were not typed by Heather. Most people have a certain way they talk to their friends and if the communications suddenly changed, it could be a good indication that she was not in control of her phone. Even here in WS, I am able to determine who is posting without looking at the name sometimes.

Thoughts?

 

[cujenn81]

Tonight at 6, you'll hear from many of those involved in the Heather Elvis case who have never spoken out until now, including the man many are convinced knows what happened to her. See that entire investigation tonight on WMBF News at 6 p.m.

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24691...ew-details-in-the-heather-elvis-disappearance

Sayyyyy whhhaaaaaatttt?


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[JaneyBGood]

Some people have said that if LE thinks the Moorers are innocent, then they would clear them so the lynch mob would back off. However, what if LE currently has another suspect, someone who the public is not aware of, and they are letting everyone think they are focused on the Moorers, so their suspect doesn't get suspicious? I am not saying it would be morally right, but do you think LE would do something like that? It's not like they have been saying that the Moorers are suspect/POI's; they just haven't said that they aren't. So I don't think it would be illegal or grounds for a lawsuit (against LE)...

Very thought provoking suggestion! This could absolutely be a possibility, IMO, especially considering the fact that LE has given the public nothing to go on....

 

[NewYork625]

A photo of the area I found with some other photos... http://www.panoramio.com/user/6069098?with_photo_id=74026054